President Obama has long ridiculed the idea that the U.S., early in the Syrian civil war, could have shaped the forces fighting the Assad regime, thereby stopping al Qaeda-inspired groups—like the one rampaging across Syria and Iraq today—from seizing control of the rebellion.
Well, his former secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton, isn’t buying it. In an interview with me earlier this week, she used her sharpest language yet to describe the "failure" that resulted from the decision to keep the U.S. on the sidelines during the first phase of the Syrian uprising.
“The failure to help build up a credible fighting force of the people who were the originators of the protests against Assad—there were Islamists, there were secularists, there was everything in the middle—the failure to do that left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled,” Clinton said.
Bo had the chance to deal with Syria's chemical weapons shit back in 2013.
instead he backed down.
now he sends in US troops when he know chlorine gas is being used.
President Barack Obama said on Thursday if reports of chlorine gas attacks in Syria were confirmed, the United States would work with the international community to put a stop to them
again, that's not what it means.. that's simply what you think it means.
so here goes- if there is a clear cut specific number that defines troops on the ground what is it and where is it defined?
the best answer is when an American is in-country shooting at an enemy with the potential to get shot back at by the enemy.
i assure you that if any of that special ops team got shot and killed, that person would have been considered a troop on the ground, in country.
and nevermind the fact that i provided a succinct and clear overview of the history of the term which you waxed over.
Originally posted by dyna mo
a division = ~20,000 troops.
so according to you, the USA does not have boots on the ground until 60,000+ troops are in -country in established bases.
so let's get this straight. if the USA had 10,000 soldiers in Syria and every single one of them was killed fighting ISIS, then according to you, we didn't have boots on the ground there.
According to your definition, we have boots on the ground in dozens of countries. By your definition, we've had boots on the ground since before anyone knew ISIS existed.
I do not consider a dozen men "boots on the ground".
The problem is here you are trying to turn this into a political issue when it's not.
According to your definition, we have boots on the ground in dozens of countries. By your definition, we've had boots on the ground since before anyone knew ISIS existed.
I do not consider a dozen men "boots on the ground".
The problem is here you are trying to turn this into a political issue when it's not.
i know you don't consider 12 troops troops on the ground, that's my point. if all 12 of those troops were killed in-country by enemy fire then according to you they were never there fighting. right.
and no, that's not the problem here, i'm not trying to turn this into a political issue, it already is a political issue. my view isn't the problem, it's an observation that BO's military strategy in the ME is fucking flawed beyond recognition. and that is exemplified perfectly by BO's flipflop bullshit in Syria combined with his trying to ingnore the issue andhopes it goes away.
you know what. i'm tired of intellectually stunning you with quick and easy quips to your bullshit here.
instead, i'll stoop to your *shit in a bucket in a van* lifestyle speak
you're a dumbfuck.
you say this is a good mission but you have no fucking idea what the fuck you are talking about. you weren't there, you don't know the repercussions, and you certainly don't know the endgame of a mission like this. you think killing bin laden 10 years later stopped terrorism in some way? you're fucking joke.
next, you are so insecure in your posts here (because the shit you regurgitate here is spoonfed to you) you need to try and attack my view instead of having the nutsack to arrive at your own views.
Finally, you're the fucking retard that can't even research something like the Freedom act, instead swallowing that VICE story like it was a big load of BO splooge and then dragging the rest of us through your bullshit.
gofuckyourself crockett science.
So wait, it's ok for you to harass me with your little gotcha questions non stop in every topic, but the moment I hit you back with the exact same flavor of gotcha, you cry and pout.
You righties are all the same you can shovel the shit non stop, but you can't take it in return with out crying and exploding in anger.
The best part of this whole topic, is once again something that should be non political, you turn into team politics then blame everyone else when it goes badly for you.
The simple fact is this was a good raid. They killed an important ISIL figure head, captured a likely valuable information source and free a girl whom was a slave. Yet because of Obama, you bitch and moan like a 12 year old girl. This is the exact type of mission our special forces should be used for. But just like when they killed bin Laden you cry and pout because Obama gave the order.
Everyone is spoon fed except Dyna..
In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.
So wait, it's ok for you to harass me with your little gotcha questions non stop in every topic, but the moment I hit you back with the exact same flavor of gotcha, you cry and pout.
You righties are all the same you can shovel the shit non stop, but you can't take it in return with out crying and exploding in anger.
The best part of this whole topic, is once again something that should be non political, you turn into team politics then blame everyone else when it goes badly for you.
The simple fact is this was a good raid. They killed an important ISIL figure head, captured a likely valuable information source and free a girl whom was a slave. Yet because of Obama, you bitch and moan like a 12 year old girl. This is the exact type of mission our special forces should be used for. But just like when they killed bin Laden you cry and pout because Obama gave the order.
Everyone is spoon fed except Dyna..
you fucking nitwit, i didn't make this political. it is fucking political. you know who authorized this POS mission? the fucking president did, and that's after 4+ years of HIS failed Syrian political policy.
you fucking nitwit, i didn't make this political. it is fucking political. you know who authorized this POS mission? the fucking president did, and that's after 4+ years of HIS failed Syrian political policy.
In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.
not fucking political. what a fucking joke that is.
Instead of supporting our troops on a job well done, you instead make everything about Obama. I thought Vendzilla had stopped posting in these topics, but look he's right here using Dyna Mo's nick..
In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.
Instead of supporting our troops on a job well done, you instead make everything about Obama. I thought Vendzilla had stopped posting in these topics, but look he's right here using Dyna Mo's nick..
troops are trained to perform a task. that's their fucking job, you're a bigger dumbfuck than usual to think special ops need some gfyer to give them a high-5 for doing their jobs.
they do what they're told, like you do, this wasn't their mission, it was BO's mission, he authorized it, it all went through him.
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