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aka123 05-08-2015 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stoka (Post 20469636)

Not about being expert, but our army did send/ sends letters to 900 000 Finns about their current position in army (whether they have assigned position, what it is, or are they in reserve). It is because of changes in our army, etc. I got mine this week.

So, quite many knows at least something.

pornmasta 05-08-2015 12:21 PM

aka123 got his Lahti L-39

dyna mo 05-08-2015 12:31 PM

looking forward to the state of the art 2017 ruskie battleship for a trifecta.

klinton 05-08-2015 12:33 PM

I'm surprised that you have to ask about it. reasons are obvious - to present Russians as "monsters", to simplify imposing sanctions on Russia, to increase support for "opressed" Ukraine and so on.
why I dont say that Ukrainians did it **directly**, I see these potential reasons and motivations without problem...
what is really funny is the fact that Dutch government need almost one year already to simply check blackboxes...which can lead to the other conclusion - potential results are not comfortable for two sides, Russian backed separatists and Ukrainian government.
like for example: 10 km before MH the other, military jet was flying and separatists shoot MH by mistake....or other reasons
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20469635)
now they claim it was the Ukraine that shot it down with a BUK - because their reason to do so was..... ?


aka123 05-08-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20469750)
aka123 got his Lahti L-39

http://www.winterwar.com/Weapons/Fin...e/l-39side.jpg

Naah.. that pea gun. I use Big Bertha.

MaDalton 05-08-2015 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20469758)
I'm surprised that you have to ask about it. reasons are obvious - to present Russians as "monsters", to simplify imposing sanctions on Russia, to increase support for "opressed" Ukraine and so on.
why I dont say that Ukrainians did it **directly**, I see these potential reasons and motivations without problem...
what is really funny is the fact that Dutch government need almost one year already to simply check blackboxes...which can lead to the other conclusion - potential results are not comfortable for two sides, Russian backed separatists and Ukrainian government.
like for example: 10 km before MH the other, military jet was flying and separatists shoot MH by mistake....or other reasons

i don't even argue over this bullshit anymore - there is no indication that anything else happened as that those idiot separatists shot it down - like they posted first and then quickly deleted.

then you have Strelkov/Girkin/whatever giving interviews how he was involved

Russia's Igor Strelkov: I Am Responsible for War in Eastern Ukraine | News | The Moscow Times

and even Putin saying how russian troops were involved (unlike some GFY posters claiming anyone can buy a uniform in a shop - haha)

it doesn't matter anymore, if the plan was to bring cold war back it was successful

klinton 05-08-2015 01:22 PM

nah, the plan was to secure western borders and stop NATO expansion close to Russian borders.
if you call that all Russian's fault and "coming back to cold war"...
well, good luck with that :-)
now lets think for a moment - for example- about Falklands/ Malvines situation and how one of NATO holy members acts over there...do you need 100's of more samples like that or you are tired of bullshit ? :-)
well, I'm also tired of bullshit :winkwink:

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20469767)
it doesn't matter anymore, if the plan was to bring cold war back it was successful


JFK 05-08-2015 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20469767)
it doesn't matter anymore, if the plan was to bring cold war back it was successful

:2 cents::thumbsup:thumbsup

Kolargol 05-09-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20469774)
nah, the plan was to secure western borders and stop NATO expansion close to Russian borders.
if you call that all Russian's fault and "coming back to cold war"...
well, good luck with that :-)
now lets think for a moment - for example- about Falklands/ Malvines situation and how one of NATO holy members acts over there...do you need 100's of more samples like that or you are tired of bullshit ? :-)
well, I'm also tired of bullshit :winkwink:

That's loads of assumptions but the facts are:

Russia invaded Georgia and grabbed its land in 2008.

Russia invaded Ukraine and grabbed its land in 2014.

Russia keeps their nuclear weapons just by NATO border (Kalinigrad).

NATO agreed to keep nuclear weapons away from Russian borders.

Russian officials keep threatening Western countries with nuclear assault.

I don't see NATO troops leaving NATO countries towards Russia but I see Russian troops moving from Russia towards NATO.

just a punk 05-10-2015 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20470285)
That's loads of assumptions but the facts are:

Russia invaded Georgia and grabbed its land in 2008.

Russia invaded Ukraine and grabbed its land in 2014.

Russia keeps their nuclear weapons just by NATO border (Kalinigrad).

NATO agreed to keep nuclear weapons away from Russian borders.

Russian officials keep threatening Western countries with nuclear assault.

I don't see NATO troops leaving NATO countries towards Russia but I see Russian troops moving from Russia towards NATO.

http://img11.nnm.me/d/5/d/b/b/d03218...ce61e0e108.gif

klinton 05-10-2015 04:40 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Kolargol is a product of mass media in his country :)
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20470591)


Enjoy Bucks 05-10-2015 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20469531)
Considering the US has the most battlefield experience out of any country in the world.. Well then I suspect we maybe on to something. blah blah blah

remind me last successful US battlefield experience please

vietnam, irak, afganistan or ... ?

EngineCash 05-11-2015 01:38 AM

Ahahahaha... :) You are laughing to this tank and Putin? Go ahead... :) :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 05-11-2015 02:53 AM

how amusing to see the USA pretend that they would ever ever ever have the balls to engage in conflict with russia...

thin thin skinned US pussies LOL never really won a war in their entire history, just bombed some 3rd world defenceless shit holes and made a mess anyway...

I was 100% sure that saddam did not have WMD the moment they invaded him...the US army simply does not have the balls to attack anybody with WMD...

we can debate left and right about "superiority" but fact is:

if putin decides to invade any country, the USA will be a good little bitch about it and keep quiet...like a good little bitch...

and we all know this :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

now go back to your mental masturbation how the USA multi billion dollar aircraft can bomb some 3rd world farmer :1orglaugh

Sid70 05-11-2015 05:05 AM

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klinton 05-11-2015 05:41 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20471269)


seeandsee 05-11-2015 05:50 AM

come on, nukes will end this shit of planet

just a punk 05-11-2015 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20469428)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Agreed. it's especially funny how easy F-4 Phantom's were turned into fireballs by old and "weak" Soviet MiG-21 in Vietnam. Yeah man, that was a real fun :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

P.S. Right now I'm watching Discovery channel on how shamefully the US "superior" jets lose the fight over Vietnam. I bet your taxpayers paid a lot of money for those flying coffins :pimp

Nitzer Ebb 05-11-2015 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20471735)
Agreed. it's especially funny how easy F-4 Phantom's were turned into fireballs by old and "weak" Soviet MiG-21 in Vietnam. Yeah man, that was a real fun :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Horseshit. Only 33 went down as result of MIG attacks.

"A total of 445 Air Force Phantom fighter-bombers were lost, 370 in combat and 193 of those over North Vietnam (33 to MiGs, 30 to SAMs, and 307 to AAA).[74]"

USAF F-4C/D/E crews scored 107 MiG kills in Southeast Asia :1orglaugh


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