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DavePlays 03-17-2003 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
PM: Canada won't join U.S. forces
U.S. and its allies have abandoned U.N. process on march to war

What say the Canada bashers now? :)


I've never bashed Canada - but they had better hope this war never comes to North America.


And you know what is funny?

I just heard that Canada did say they want to be included in the rebuilding of Iraq....

Yeah - right :1orglaugh

CDSmith 03-17-2003 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by SNIPER
All joking aside... Even though my sweetheart CD SMith and I don't agree, I don't think we should join the attack on Iraq. The fact is we are not agressors, we are peace keepers. The U.S can pick the fights and like good nieghbours we will help clean up your mess when you are done.
I would have liked to see Cretien grow some onions and at least say that Canada supports the US in principle. Regardless of what he says *our* position is, Canada very likely will send forces afterwards to help rebuiild Iraq and do peace-keeping duties in the region. That's what we're known for anyways. Our squadron of 8 or 10 FA-18's wouldn't make a whole lot of difference to the US-led forces already over there, but I hate to see our Canadian leader taking a stance that draws a rift between us and the USA. Hate it.


It's pretty obvious that the US has lost some regard for the UN over this issue. Cretien might eventually come to realise that using the lack of support in the UN as a reason to dis the US probably wasn't the best plan.


Then again maybe this is the way the two governments have things worked out between then. Who knows what sort of political posturing is being arranged? All I know is that Canada & the US have enjoyed a friendly relationship unlike any 2 other countries in the world. Hopefully that will continue.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-17-2003 06:09 PM

As bad as Bush is, cuz I think he sucks, I do think the Iraqi leader
Saddam has to go. Should have been rid of with the first Bush but since they are bumbling idiots I hope this time Saddam is out.

Saddam has blood all over his hands from all sides of Iraq.
Iraq could be a beautiful country however their leader has squandered every opportunity by murder and unfair war practices against the geneva convention.

Kurds (his own people on the land) are dead by his hand are estimated at over 60,000 Lives + those still suffering.

If Saddam stayed in power only more suffering can happen.

If Saddam is not removed we got another Castro on the world map which is seriously problematic with exception of a huge Oil reserve at his feet. THe fucker has already proven he wont hesitate to use unfair weapons of war.

I do indeed hope that the war is quick and decisive with few civilian casualties and military casualties.

Logic is simply how can the world community think that it is fine for Saddam to commit serious war crimes against his own people remain in power? Is it fine for a leader to kill 10's of thousands of his own people to remain in the modern world?

Milosovich, that guy is a milk fed puppy when standing next to Saddam at least Milosovich didnt use nukes and chem weapons.


Countries that are threatening Veto want cheap Oil and they are getting it right now (France) and thier actions only prolong the suffering of the people of Iraq and the French know it.:feels-hot

Oh what this thread is about Canada. Oh yeah pardon me, but if I recall alot of Canadian power is French based so a neutral (opposing) stance is of course... Logical.

Concerning Canadian Adult webmasters?
You guys kick ass and I will have a Canadian drink, or girl at full price!
:thumbsup

directfiesta 03-17-2003 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana


our sea kings would kill more americans than iraq will.

Amazing that nobody picked that one up... Shows the level of intellect in these threads.... Aside from " I got more guns than you", you really can't seize the humor of this post .....

If only all americans could board our Sea Kings (FYI: helicopters... or so called... lol)

FlyingIguana, you made my day.... :thumbsup

directfiesta 03-17-2003 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


ahaha. my favorite is the part about seperation.

I dispise that. We have the exclusive rights to that, separate.... and a license from ACACIA...

You separate after we separate.

lol

directfiesta 03-17-2003 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
the US will crumble without Canada! Eh?
http://www.ampiezza.com/stuff/canadian2.gif

Why are you posting the pic of your father????

SNIPER 03-17-2003 06:17 PM

Agreed CD Smith, I really wouldn't want to see our borders become harder to cross, but we have to look out for ourselves sometimes.

My only concern is what happens next? US goes to war, removes Sadam, then cuts the country up into 3 parts and starts to rule another peice of the world. The economy goes up again in the US, the dollar rises and then what? Another terrorist attack and we are back to the same position..or not?!

The fact is in the end this not about helping the Iraqi people or terrorism or anything noble but only oil. Why should Canada be a part of something that is not UN backed? Why does everyone else have to go through the UN and not the US?

We are globalized economy, and can't start acting out and going our own way, because it doesn't affect just one country. It affects everyone. So lets all work together on this and not run off like spoiled children and tell the world to :321GFY because they don't agree with us.


But again that is only my opinion. Whatever is going to happen is going to happen. lets just hope not too many humans die in the process.

FATPad 03-17-2003 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
but I hate to see our Canadian leader taking a stance that draws a rift between us and the USA. Hate it.


I don't think it would. Canada has always been a good ally. If it started becoming like France where every single time the US did something you jumped on the other side, it might, but I doubt this one thing will do it.

directfiesta 03-17-2003 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
.. see Cretien grow

Cretien might eventually

Please. spell it properly: Chretien

FYI, it means Christian ....

OH, BTW, there are many conflicts between Canada & US in regards to lumber and other "free" trade agreement.

And no, we are not the US good friend... Bush said it twice... thanking days after 9/11 about any and every countries in the world except Canada, and a few days ago were he clearly said: the UK is my best friend....

JeremySF 03-17-2003 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by stanton
you dumb uneducated shmuck
there is no king of Canada :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
:1orglaugh



Sarcasm???

Like King George Dubya??

genomega 03-17-2003 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by stanton you dumb uneducated shmuck there is no king of Canada
It was an attempt at a little humor.
Should have known better.

:1orglaugh

12clicks 03-17-2003 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Canada says they will not support illegal U.S. war
It's so funny watching liars operate.:1orglaugh

JeremySF 03-17-2003 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by genomega

It was an attempt at a little humor.
Should have known better.

:1orglaugh


Obviously Stanton lacks the intellect to grasp your humor.

jimmyf 03-17-2003 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by genomega
How about the king of Canada can go fuck himself and spend
a few hundred billion to build his own military.

:glugglug

What's the Queen going 2 be doing while he's away building that military?:Graucho

jimmyf 03-17-2003 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Tala
Suddenly I am struck by George Carlin's wisdom when explained the "Bigger Dick Foriegn Policy".

Illegal to the U.N. THAT'S funny! :evil-laug

yes I was going to post. The Topic says

Canada says they will not support **illegal** U.S. war

not a thing illegal about it, far as am concerned.

CDSmith 03-17-2003 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by SNIPER
My only concern is what happens next? US goes to war, removes Sadam, then cuts the country up into 3 parts and starts to rule another peice of the world. The economy goes up again in the US, the dollar rises and then what? Another terrorist attack and we are back to the same position..or not?!
I don't see this as a likely outcome at all. I listened just now not only to Bush's speech but also to about 40 minutes of interviews with former Canadian military personnel on CBC, and I sensed none of what you just said. "cut up Iraq into three parts???" Where did you get that from? Bush re-affirmed the intent is to oust the dictatorship, free the Iraqi people, and to begin delivering them the food, medicines and supplies needed to rebuild. He also said clearly that the oil and oil fields of Iraq belong to the Iraqi people.... that was stated by Bush very clearly.

It was also said at certain points during the after-speech commentary that more terrorist attacks are expected anyway, not only by Iraqi operatives but from Al Quaida members who would do it in the name of "defending the muslim world's honor"..... imagine that.
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The fact is in the end this not about helping the Iraqi people or terrorism or anything noble but only oil.
Already addressed this. I will also add that the only countries that have expressed a major concern over oil are the three countries that have been squawking the loudest and the longest in opposition to the US. Why? Because those three nations have very large oil contracts with Iraq and are fearful of losing those contracts and the money invested in them. I find that highly interesting, don't you?
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Why should Canada be a part of something that is not UN backed? Why does everyone else have to go through the UN and not the US?
Not exactly true. Back in 1997 or 98, I forget..... Canada along with a mulitude of other nations (including the US) intervened militarily in Kosovo WITHOUT the sanction of the UN, during which time Russia threatened to vote for a veto in the UN council. We went in anyway, without full UN approval.

Sometimes it is the right thing to do.



I agree in full about preserving peace and preserving life as much as possible, but I believe that the person who has brought us this close to conflict is Saddam. The blame falls fully on his shoulders, and no one, not even the staunchest anti-war people have disagreed that Hussein needs to go.



Btw, did you know that Canada has 11 warships in the Persian Gulf doing blockade and security duties? They are there for the purpose solely of assisting the US in the war on terrorism, and among their duties are escorting other vessels through the region safely, to checking out other vessels in order to increase security so the US ships can concentrate on Iraq. -- that comes directly from the two military personalities they had as guests on CBC national not an hour ago.

So Canada, according to our government, is still highly committed to aiding the US in the war on terrorism, but for several reasons we now can't go outside of the UN to participate directly in a war with Iraq.

Things are much clearer now as far as I'm concerned.

seven 03-17-2003 08:19 PM

For God's sakes CD keep your posts short.. I'm not here to read books written by an amateur armchair politician :1orglaugh

eRock 03-17-2003 08:24 PM

Isn't Canada basically the spawn of the French?

JeremySF 03-17-2003 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by eRock
Isn't Canada basically the spawn of the French?
what the hell is a spawn? do you mean a pawn?

eRock 03-17-2003 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by JeremySF


what the hell is a spawn? do you mean a pawn?

You don't know what "spawn" means?

LiveDose 03-17-2003 08:30 PM

http://199.174.114.52/~file13/BEAUTY.gif



1:) :)

CDSmith 03-17-2003 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by seven
For God's sakes CD keep your posts short.. I'm not here to read books written by an amateur armchair politician :1orglaugh
Honestly little man, if you're having a problem with your attention span, I truly do feel bad for you.


Just do the best you can.

seven 03-17-2003 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by eRock
Isn't Canada basically the spawn of the French?
Spawn of England, Scotland, Ireland and France. British queen is still the honorary queen of Canada yet that doesn't mean we'd wanna accomplice Britain..

seven 03-17-2003 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Honestly little man, if you're having a problem with your attention span, I truly do feel bad for you. Just do the best you can.
Kindly feel bad for yourself and go to the library study some geopolitics and then give us some actually fruitful pieces rather than your 6th grade mumbo jumbo. You are just wasting board space where ANYONE else could put much better value :(

FlyingIguana 03-17-2003 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
http://www.ampiezza.com/stuff/canadian.jpg
hey, isn't he from hawaii? :winkwink:

CDSmith 03-17-2003 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by seven
Kindly feel bad for yourself and go to the library study some geopolitics and then give us some actually fruitful pieces rather than your 6th grade mumbo jumbo. You are just wasting board space where ANYONE else could put much better value :(
I've read most of your spewage too little man. This is a message board...... that's *MESSAGE*BOARD*..... it means people are allowed to post their opinions. You pretty much know what you can do if you don't like it, right shithead?


I thought you might. Carry on.

seven 03-17-2003 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
You pretty much know what you can do if you don't like it, right shithead?
And I did didn't I the smart one, the blind believer of Bush Prophecy? :1orglaugh

CDSmith 03-17-2003 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by seven
And I did didn't I the smart one, the blind believer of Bush Prophecy? :1orglaugh
You've suddenly felt the need to become quite the little smartass seven. I'm not sure what your major malfunction is with me, if you disagree with me fine, just state your opinion and move on. You're little smart alecky pseudo-ridicule is getting you nowhere fast.


Try being less of a shitstick, k?

eRock 03-17-2003 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by seven

Spawn of England, Scotland, Ireland and France. British queen is still the honorary queen of Canada yet that doesn't mean we'd wanna accomplice Britain..

You mean, that doesn't mean YOU would like to accomplice Britain. Unless you're speaking for Canadians everywhere...

iggysick 03-17-2003 09:25 PM

all webmasters from usa: pack your bags and straight to Iraq!

seven 03-17-2003 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by eRock
You mean, that doesn't mean YOU would like to accomplice Britain. Unless you're speaking for Canadians everywhere...
I'm speaking for vast majority of Canadians and their gov :winkwink:

seven 03-17-2003 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
You've suddenly felt the need to become quite the little smartass seven.
Suddenly? If you read my previous posts I've always been a smartass.. I don't like name calling so people get my alecky specially when they try to defend themselves by calling me names. Btw,

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
You're little smart alecky pseudo-ridicule is getting you nowhere fast.
where do you think I was trying to get to fast? :1orglaugh

SleazyDream 03-17-2003 09:36 PM

Jesus Fucking Christ - we are CURRENTLY in Afganistan and we currently have ships in the persian gulf ENFORCING the Trade sanctions of Iraq.


Where oh where does BUSH expect the MAGIC Canadian Troops to come from? We have a small army and I sure as hell don't want to get drafted.


Think of it as sitting at a blackjack and having to leave cause you ran outa money. No more troops. The US can fight several wars at once, WE CAN'T.

NastyJack 03-18-2003 12:04 AM

It's about time this Country shows a back bone!


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