What's to read again? I simply said that my position on the issue has been clear since day 1. If it now differs from the PM so be it, but I stand behind my posts 100%. The aim was to ensure that all the hair-triggered 'mericuns here don't condemn all Canuckleheads because of some. I was mainly addressing those that I regularly communicate with here. What IS pretentious is a jerkoff like you who presumes to think I was speaking to you, or that your childish prattle was even welcome.


Wake up goof. You seem to be fixated on the cock and the loving thereof. I'm happy for you.

Yup..

Us and Canada often play "good cop bad cop" when it comes to 3rd world countries.

US will go in, kick ass, mop up, and then leave. Countries like Canada will then send in "peace keeping" forces to make sure things gets rebuilt the way the US wants. When it comes to an occupation force, it s a lot easier if you can bullshit defeated countries that "were on your side" and "were just here to help".

Canada has little offensive capability in a war, but its occupation (err... I mean peace keeping) forces are amongst the best in the world. Probably because thats what the US wants them to be good at.

Sounds about right.

our sea kings would kill more americans than iraq will.

Molson Canadian = Molson Freedom

Don't worry guys U.S. is better off without Candians but wondering if "you are either with us or you are against us" will apply to Canadians now :Graucho Canada shouldn't have said this when they also have so much oil to worry about :1orglaugh oh well atleast Canada is not in the middle-east threatning Israel :thumbsup

Umm hate to break it to ya, Ottawa is the Capital!

Toronto is the Capital city of Ontario, and Ottawa is the same Province as ON...that would be your history lesson for today.

:thumbsup see where Americans get their good names? lol

LOL I thought twistyneck was making a joke :1orglaugh

Everyone knows that the "real" capital is Toronto ;)

All joking aside... Even though my sweetheart CD SMith and I don't agree, I don't think we should join the attack on Iraq. The fact is we are not agressors, we are peace keepers. The U.S can pick the fights and like good nieghbours we will help clean up your mess when you are done.

Jean Chrietien is speaking out for a majority of Canadians. Not saying all agree with him, but I am sure his people have taken the popular vote and found it is better for Canada as a whole not ot proceed without UN beack support. It is politics, I am sure we are getting a goody bag from one country or the next.

Not only that but I am sure we (Canadians) don't want to be next in line to start the Terrorist Alert colours..what are you guys at now? Orange, Yellow? I would get an ulcer just watching CNN every day and trying to figure out whether or not I should go buy bottled water and gas masks.

Ok I speak for Canadians because I am a Canadian.

1) Jean Chretien is a old fuck that should have been killed a long time ago.

2) Its not that we dont want to help you, we cant! Our government wastes billions on stupid gun registery's and only helping the people in the East. We have no military, we cant help you because our country suxs.

3) We are taxed to hell on almost everything. PST, GST, Income tax, Tax on cigarettes, beer, alcohol, roads, bridges, tolls, parking. We are a shitty country.

We are one of these Socialist Capitalist countries. We get taxed like a socialist country but have the benefits of a capitalist one (our government wastes our fucking cash)


As soon as the west (British Columbia and friends and where I live) seperates, the better off we would be.

"we will not send the canadian army..."

interpretation;

we will not be sending the fat guy over there with the half open sixpack and the beaver gun

how many of the Super-Pro war - are actually in the army - or have relatives who's going to Iraq?

ROFL!!! :1orglaugh

fuck you're an idiot...

http://www.rustedpuffin.com/laugh.gif

now if I was just leet enough to animate it, then 12Clicks could use them instead.

Shit, that's just ham, anyways. lol

"What Bush was doing when " working the phones" was not begging gfor a tank, but for siupport to his position...

This is what Canada could have but is not giving you...."

I always wondered what "working the phones" mean't :-) .. Yea.. there are three versions:

(a) Creeping up another country's ass to try and create some "legitimacy" for the US.

(b) Threatening to quit "US aid" (that myth) to third world countries unless they "are with us".

(c) Offering to give billions of dollars to other countries for their "support" (money they ain't *actually* got anyway cos the country is bust, but in a state of denial) - think that is called bribery.

Hell.. Canada is not the only country that is "not with Bush" - most of the world ain't. Wait a short time and the "strong UK ally Blair" will be vanquished into obscurity as well - he is "leaving the room" right now.

Our government wastes billions on stupid gun registery's

Ain't that the truth. What a fucking farce that registry is. And the sad part is they won't admit it, even when it's so obvious.

you dumb uneducated shmuck
there is no king of Canada :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
:1orglaugh

ahaha. my favorite is the part about seperation.

But there's a King of Kensington! Oh wait, he's dead too.

All Hail the King!
http://www.vigile.net/00-10/chretien-controverse.jpg

the makers of Canada Dry are shaking in their boots

the US will crumble without Canada! Eh?
http://www.ampiezza.com/stuff/canadian2.gif

you mean Freedom Dry.

this guy was geared up and ready to go when they said Canada wasn"t going....

http://www.ampiezza.com/stuff/canadian3.jpg

You bet he was.. :1orglaugh

But good post sniper :thumbsup

canada is no good military anyways

I've never bashed Canada - but they had better hope this war never comes to North America.


And you know what is funny?

I just heard that Canada did say they want to be included in the rebuilding of Iraq....

Yeah - right :1orglaugh

I would have liked to see Cretien grow some onions and at least say that Canada supports the US in principle. Regardless of what he says *our* position is, Canada very likely will send forces afterwards to help rebuiild Iraq and do peace-keeping duties in the region. That's what we're known for anyways. Our squadron of 8 or 10 FA-18's wouldn't make a whole lot of difference to the US-led forces already over there, but I hate to see our Canadian leader taking a stance that draws a rift between us and the USA. Hate it.


It's pretty obvious that the US has lost some regard for the UN over this issue. Cretien might eventually come to realise that using the lack of support in the UN as a reason to dis the US probably wasn't the best plan.


Then again maybe this is the way the two governments have things worked out between then. Who knows what sort of political posturing is being arranged? All I know is that Canada & the US have enjoyed a friendly relationship unlike any 2 other countries in the world. Hopefully that will continue.

As bad as Bush is, cuz I think he sucks, I do think the Iraqi leader
Saddam has to go. Should have been rid of with the first Bush but since they are bumbling idiots I hope this time Saddam is out.

Saddam has blood all over his hands from all sides of Iraq.
Iraq could be a beautiful country however their leader has squandered every opportunity by murder and unfair war practices against the geneva convention.

Kurds (his own people on the land) are dead by his hand are estimated at over 60,000 Lives + those still suffering.

If Saddam stayed in power only more suffering can happen.

If Saddam is not removed we got another Castro on the world map which is seriously problematic with exception of a huge Oil reserve at his feet. THe fucker has already proven he wont hesitate to use unfair weapons of war.

I do indeed hope that the war is quick and decisive with few civilian casualties and military casualties.

Logic is simply how can the world community think that it is fine for Saddam to commit serious war crimes against his own people remain in power? Is it fine for a leader to kill 10's of thousands of his own people to remain in the modern world?

Milosovich, that guy is a milk fed puppy when standing next to Saddam at least Milosovich didnt use nukes and chem weapons.


Countries that are threatening Veto want cheap Oil and they are getting it right now (France) and thier actions only prolong the suffering of the people of Iraq and the French know it.:feels-hot

Oh what this thread is about Canada. Oh yeah pardon me, but if I recall alot of Canadian power is French based so a neutral (opposing) stance is of course... Logical.

Concerning Canadian Adult webmasters?
You guys kick ass and I will have a Canadian drink, or girl at full price!
:thumbsup

Amazing that nobody picked that one up... Shows the level of intellect in these threads.... Aside from " I got more guns than you", you really can't seize the humor of this post .....

If only all americans could board our Sea Kings (FYI: helicopters... or so called... lol)

FlyingIguana, you made my day.... :thumbsup

I dispise that. We have the exclusive rights to that, separate.... and a license from ACACIA...

You separate after we separate.

lol

Why are you posting the pic of your father????

Agreed CD Smith, I really wouldn't want to see our borders become harder to cross, but we have to look out for ourselves sometimes.

My only concern is what happens next? US goes to war, removes Sadam, then cuts the country up into 3 parts and starts to rule another peice of the world. The economy goes up again in the US, the dollar rises and then what? Another terrorist attack and we are back to the same position..or not?!

The fact is in the end this not about helping the Iraqi people or terrorism or anything noble but only oil. Why should Canada be a part of something that is not UN backed? Why does everyone else have to go through the UN and not the US?

We are globalized economy, and can't start acting out and going our own way, because it doesn't affect just one country. It affects everyone. So lets all work together on this and not run off like spoiled children and tell the world to :321GFY because they don't agree with us.


But again that is only my opinion. Whatever is going to happen is going to happen. lets just hope not too many humans die in the process.

I don't think it would. Canada has always been a good ally. If it started becoming like France where every single time the US did something you jumped on the other side, it might, but I doubt this one thing will do it.

Please. spell it properly: Chretien

FYI, it means Christian ....

OH, BTW, there are many conflicts between Canada & US in regards to lumber and other "free" trade agreement.

And no, we are not the US good friend... Bush said it twice... thanking days after 9/11 about any and every countries in the world except Canada, and a few days ago were he clearly said: the UK is my best friend....

Sarcasm???

Like King George Dubya??

It was an attempt at a little humor.
Should have known better.

:1orglaugh

It's so funny watching liars operate.:1orglaugh

Obviously Stanton lacks the intellect to grasp your humor.

What's the Queen going 2 be doing while he's away building that military?:Graucho

yes I was going to post. The Topic says

Canada says they will not support **illegal** U.S. war

not a thing illegal about it, far as am concerned.

I don't see this as a likely outcome at all. I listened just now not only to Bush's speech but also to about 40 minutes of interviews with former Canadian military personnel on CBC, and I sensed none of what you just said. "cut up Iraq into three parts???" Where did you get that from? Bush re-affirmed the intent is to oust the dictatorship, free the Iraqi people, and to begin delivering them the food, medicines and supplies needed to rebuild. He also said clearly that the oil and oil fields of Iraq belong to the Iraqi people.... that was stated by Bush very clearly.

It was also said at certain points during the after-speech commentary that more terrorist attacks are expected anyway, not only by Iraqi operatives but from Al Quaida members who would do it in the name of "defending the muslim world's honor"..... imagine that. Already addressed this. I will also add that the only countries that have expressed a major concern over oil are the three countries that have been squawking the loudest and the longest in opposition to the US. Why? Because those three nations have very large oil contracts with Iraq and are fearful of losing those contracts and the money invested in them. I find that highly interesting, don't you? Not exactly true. Back in 1997 or 98, I forget..... Canada along with a mulitude of other nations (including the US) intervened militarily in Kosovo WITHOUT the sanction of the UN, during which time Russia threatened to vote for a veto in the UN council. We went in anyway, without full UN approval.

Sometimes it is the right thing to do.



I agree in full about preserving peace and preserving life as much as possible, but I believe that the person who has brought us this close to conflict is Saddam. The blame falls fully on his shoulders, and no one, not even the staunchest anti-war people have disagreed that Hussein needs to go.



Btw, did you know that Canada has 11 warships in the Persian Gulf doing blockade and security duties? They are there for the purpose solely of assisting the US in the war on terrorism, and among their duties are escorting other vessels through the region safely, to checking out other vessels in order to increase security so the US ships can concentrate on Iraq. -- that comes directly from the two military personalities they had as guests on CBC national not an hour ago.

So Canada, according to our government, is still highly committed to aiding the US in the war on terrorism, but for several reasons we now can't go outside of the UN to participate directly in a war with Iraq.

Things are much clearer now as far as I'm concerned.

For God's sakes CD keep your posts short.. I'm not here to read books written by an amateur armchair politician :1orglaugh

Isn't Canada basically the spawn of the French?

what the hell is a spawn? do you mean a pawn?

You don't know what "spawn" means?