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Grapesoda 04-27-2015 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20459386)
Actually the Pharaohs were considered the "equals" of gods. They still worshiped imaginary gods it's just the Pharaohs were the gods on Earth or gods among men.

As for the Bible it was very much written by the Jews. It's not called the "Hebrew Bible" (ie the old testament) for nothing. Hence my original statement the Jews wrote it and somewhere along the line someone put together the various books into one and used it to further push along Christianity as book of law if you will.

I mean lets get real, many of the stories are just stories rehashed from religious beliefs which even pre dated the Hebrew scrolls. Then of course every major player just happened to be "Jewish" in their modern rehash of old stories.. not to mention the Jews were the chosen ones.. all from the old testament mind you.. :winkwink:
you can justify and equate on this until your dick rots off... won't change the fact that the bible is the greatest story every told and the most important book ever created...

and as far as 'booked the dead' a book that was used from 1550 BCE to aprox 50 BCE that was out of print until 1842 CE (that's over 2000 years) being equated to the bible in importance and cultural significance is crazy, right? I mean you do realize that right?

you do know that the to rah is credited to Moses (1393-1273 BCE) as one of the original authors and has been in use since that time...? that's over 3200 years ago.... been used in a culture for guidance EVERY FUCKING DAY FOR OVER 3200 YEARS... get a clue will ya?

crockett 04-27-2015 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20459694)
You are missing the point. It is a great book. It has had a huge impact. Factual/accurate were not the metrics.
...and it's still a fairytale.

Grapesoda 04-27-2015 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20459714)
...and it's still a fairytale.
here's an analogy for you.... suppose I pretended to be a cop, pull you over on the highway, forced you to suck my dick, stuck a gun up your ass, and beat the fuck out of you.... does it really matter If I'm not really a cop :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

crockett 04-27-2015 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20459730)
here's an analogy for you.... suppose I pretended to be a cop, pull you over on the highway, forced you to suck my dick, stuck a gun up your ass, and beat the fuck out of you.... does it really matter If I'm not really a cop :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
You know how you know you are losing a argument...


See you miss the actual point.. The bible specifically the old testament, was just rehashed from other stories which were told before it and used in other religions.. It's not the greatest story ever told it's a bunch of rehashed stories stolen from previous holy books. With other gods which "were not Jesus the Jewish carpenter or Moses the crazy guy in the dessert.. Then of course the Muslims stole it again to write their Koran..

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In the Persian scriptures of the Zoroastrians, the Avesta tells the story of how Ormuzd created the world and the first two humans in six days and then rested on the seventh. The names of these two human beings were Adama and Evah. These texts date back as far as the 10th century B.C.

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The Epic of Gilgamesh tells the story of a man, Enkidu, who was created from the earth by a god. He lives amongst the animals in a natural paradise until he is tempted by a woman, Shamhat. He accepts food from this woman and is forced to leave the place where he lives after becoming aware of his own nakedness. Later in the epic, he encounters a snake which steals a plant of immortality from him.


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A man is warned of an imminent flood by a god and is instructed to build a large boat in order to survive. The dimensions of the boat are 120 cubits; the building materials are wood, pitch, and reeds; and there are six decks. After the flood, the boat lands on a mountaintop where the man sends out a series of birds to find dry land. He eventually lets all the people and animals free and sacrifices to the god that saved him.Now although these details sound like they were taken directly from the book of Genesis, you’d find the same information in the story of Utnapishtim, found in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
Proverbs & Egyptian Instruction of Amenemope
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Proverbs 22:17-18: “Incline thy ear, and hear the words of the wise: and apply thy heart to my doctrine. Which shall be beautiful for thee, if thou keep it in thy bowels, and it shall flow in thy lips.”
Amenemope ch1: “Give thine ear, and hear what I say, And apply thine heart to apprehend; It is good for thee to place them in thine heart, let them rest in the casket of thy belly; That they may act as a peg upon thy tongue.”Proverbs 22:22: “Do no violence to the poor, because he is poor: and do not oppress the needy in the gate.”
Amenemope ch1: “Beware of robbing the poor, and oppressing the afflicted.”

Proverbs 23:1: “When thou shalt sit to eat with a prince, consider diligently what is set before thy face.”
Amenemope ch23: “Eat not bread in the presence of a ruler, And lunge not forward with thy mouth before a governor. When thou art replenished with that to which thou has no right, It is only a delight to thy spittle. Look upon the dish that is before thee, And let that (alone) supply thy need.”

I mean really it took 2 seconds in google to find a page with this information as it's not like any of this is secret..

The bible is plagiarized it's not a great story it's a stolen story..

Grapesoda 04-27-2015 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20459751)
You know how you know you are losing a argument...
exactly, when you are arguing with an idiot... people watching can't tell who is who.. you win my man :thumbsup

michael.kickass 04-27-2015 10:23 AM
Pretty cool.

sperbonzo 04-27-2015 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20459010)
Jewish people aren't stupid..they wrote the bible to control the non jews. It's worked well for them.,
Hilarious. First of all Jews tried not to show the torah to anyone else. They weren't trying to "control" anything but the behavior of Jews. The former Jews that became Christian were the ones who took the torah and turned it into the first five books of the old testament,and then proceeded to change a bunch of things from the original, while then adding a ton of randomly edited texts that the Jews had never had as part of the torah. The only thing Jewish about the old testament is the first five books and they were put there by the Christian Church in Rome


Secondly, if it has worked out so well for the Jews as a. Method of "control", then I guess that the Jews secret plan of control was to have various civilizations and religions to try to wipe them out and destroy their culture over and over for the last 3 thousand + years and keep them the smallest and most hated minority on the planet, with only 00.018% of the world population currently. Those Jews are pretty crafty eh?






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crockett 04-27-2015 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20460054)
Hilarious. First of all Jews tried not to show the torah to anyone else. They weren't trying to "control" anything but the behavior of Jews. The former Jews that became Christian were the ones who took the torah and turned it into the first five books of the old testament,and then proceeded to change a bunch of things from the original, while then adding a ton of randomly edited texts that the Jews had never had as part of the torah. The only thing Jewish about the old testament is the first five books and they were put there by the Christian Church in Rome


Secondly, if it has worked out so well for the Jews as a. Method of "control", then I guess that the Jews secret plan of control was to have various civilizations and religions to try to wipe them out and destroy their culture over and over for the last 3 thousand + years and keep them the smallest and most hated minority on the planet, with only 00.018% of the world population currently. Those Jews are pretty crafty eh?






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I didn't say there was some secret plan to control the world.. I said it was hashed together from previous holy books by Jewish authors to control the masses. Kinda what you just agreed to..

Don't worry I'm not some anti Jewish person or conspiracy theorist. Just calling it how it is.

SEXTANT 04-27-2015 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20459353)
lost me with that british voice
same here

nico-t 04-27-2015 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PornMarkiz (Post 20460138)
same here
I see you're from france, we all know the french don't really speak english well in general. But brassmonkey... an american, who can't follow someone who speaks in his own language? Wtf :1orglaugh I can understand it just fine and english isn't even my first language.

Due 04-27-2015 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20458945)
They have long ago dispelled the slaves myth.. There has never been any supporting infrastructure found for massive amounts of slaves or anything to even support the notion it was slaves. Everything points to regular skilled workers doing it.
Skilled workers can be slaves too.. It's very simple, if you loose your skill you die, if you keep your skills you survive

sperbonzo 04-27-2015 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20460126)
I didn't say there was some secret plan to control the world.. I said it was hashed together from previous holy books by Jewish authors to control the masses. Kinda what you just agreed to..

Don't worry I'm not some anti Jewish person or conspiracy theorist. Just calling it how it is.
You claimed that it was written to control "the non jews", which it clearly was not. It was an internal document for the Hebrew tribe, and meant as such.

That's all I was pointing out.





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crockett 04-27-2015 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20460249)
You claimed that it was written to control "the non jews", which it clearly was not. It was an internal document for the Hebrew tribe, and meant as such.

That's all I was pointing out.

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Yes I did and yes you are right, that was my mistake on that part.

sperbonzo 04-29-2015 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20460268)
Yes I did and yes you are right, that was my mistake on that part.
Thank you for a civilized discussion.



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DreamGirls 04-29-2015 06:29 AM
water. Who knew?


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