You don't know what "my idea" of govt. would be. But maybe if you took the time to read history and see what the founding fathers envisioned for our govt. then you would know what I do agree with.

By the way...you aren't gonna believe this shit...I just read in a magazine here in Vegas called "The Sunday" that when the state of Nevada made NV Energy a monopoly (like all utilities are in the country) they also pretty much made it illegal to get off the grid!

In 2001, they made an exception for any big business that uses more than 1 megawatt to be able to generate their own electricity.
Wynn Resorts has just filed for that so that they can run their resorts off of solar power.

NV Energy (owned by Warren Buffet) is screaming bloody murder and trying to stop that from happening! In other words, they are scared to death of losing all that money that is made from selling electricity.

The article further says that the state put a cap of 3% of residents who are allowed to have their own power generated by solar energy!

That is just total corruption and graft. Especially here in NV where we have so much sun every day that it makes perfect sense for everyone to be able to create their own energy.

That is what we get with govt. that has this kind of power over people...bureaucrats running our lives to make sure their cronies stay multi-billionaires. It's a disgrace.

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

THAT is their job. Spending all their time in perpetual campaign mode to raise money and traveling the world at taxpayer expense plus hookers and blow isn't what they are supposed to be doing.

Matter of fact, they should be in their home states and Congress should only be in session when it's needed. Of course...they decided that we "need" them all the time. lol

that graphic in no way whatsoever has anything at all to do with my post you quoted.


here's a quick lesson for you, that graphic illustrates the number of bills (like how it's exactly titled that way), not the participation of congressmen voting on them.

again, you are attempting to enter into discussions on topics you are uninformed, uneducated and misguided on.

typical **********.

They did the same in FL. If you try to remove your house from the power grid they will take away your certificate of occupancy. Meaning you can't legally live in a house which isn't hooked to the power grid regardless if you have electricity or not. This is thanks to Rick Scott and his beloved campaign financier Duke Energy..

I know you hate me saying this, but you don't see that shit happening in states which aren't Republican controlled. I've never said Democrats are perfect but by far they don't pull this kind of shit that harms individual tax payers like the right does at the state level.

This is why I'm so anti right wing, not because I hate Republicans in general, but because I see what they do with my own two eyes. Yes I'm sure corrupt democrats can fuck up cities like Detroit, but those are usually isolated at city level and not entire states. Republican governors around this country are fucking destroying this country at the state level.

you're joking. i'm smart enough to know votes are most certainly scheduled. bills are most certainly not random. you think our government legislative timetable is based on boehner calling on bills to be voted on like ringing a bell for dinner? whenever it suits him?

come on now.

This is 1000 pages of rules of the House: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-HPR...ACTICE-112.pdf

I know it sounds like their job Robbie, but they also have to deal with their districts needs in their states. Think about it for a min.. It's impossible for them to be on the floor all the time.

I know we all like to joke and laugh that they only work 3 days a week or what ever it is.. but lets be real here. They are also dealing with stuff from their states and each congressmen has an average of 13 meetings a day. Think about that for a min.. Maybe a meeting is 5mins maybe it's 30 mins.. with 13 a day on average there are going to be all different types of meetings.

How long do you think it would take you to do 13 meetings a day and and then deal with what ever you needed to do to prepare for those meetings and or do what ever was requested at those meetings?

Then of course there is the fund raisers.. and lets not forget they are also supposed to read those 3 thousand page bills which they vote on..

again, the congressman is being duplicitous, his entire superman schtick hinges on him not participating in the traditional legislative process. think about it. it also hinged on the wild exclamation that most of the house does not vote, including this guy, when we know by a matter of the record that congressmen are only absent from voting ~10% of the time.


come on now.

You know I think that both parties are shit. And by the way...the laws on NV Energy were done during DEMOCRAT rule:

"After the Great Depression, the citizens of Nevada preferred the Democratic Party over the Republican Party. Democrats were well received by Nevada and won most of the statewide and federal races from 1932 until 1995."

And the last 3 Gov.'s of NV have been Republican. Before that...from 1983 to 1999 it was Democrat Gov.'s.
It pretty much goes back and forth between the two parties over the decades (good old 2 party system is what gets us this shit)

Just like in Florida (where I am from and where all my family is)...it's always a Democrat or a Republican govt.
If the Republicans are EVIL, then why after over a hundred years don't the Democrats CHANGE shit when they take office?
ANSWER: They don't. Both parties are feeding at the same trough of graft and corruption.

They might have schedules for bigger & or important bills but it's impossible to schedule each bill that is voted on. It's not how the system works..

i'll stand corrected if you can show me the rule on it. otherwise, i'll go with my understanding, that the process is scheduled and the polar opposite of random. you seem to think there's someone who decides which bills are important enough to warrant actually scheduling our law makers around, you know, making laws. for example, you stated this guy blocked the bill for sending arms to ukraine, but then you claim something like this is neither a big nor important bill.


that' just not at all how the process flows. it doesn't matter how many meetings a congressman has during the day or wtfever, their PRIMARY job is to introduce and pass legislation and by all accounts, 90% of them participate in that.

this guy is a clown trying to toot his own horn.

IF Congress can try to sneak in bills to keep most Congressmen from voting for them...then WHY didn't the Democrats CHANGE that rule when they had the House?
Saint Nancy Pelosi had a majority and could have "fixed" this problem right? Or any of the other Democrat House leaders (since they historically have held the majority in Congress over the last hundred plus years)

Answer: They don't WANT to change it. They like being able to pull shit on both sides.

Whatever you say, skippy.

nice to see you are finally starting to embrace reality.


although i did get a chuckle from your including a graphic on our Congress's lack of passing legislation in a thread about it being OK to block legislation from passing.


:1orglaugh

The problem isn't Congress passing legislation..."passing legislation" = creating NEW laws.

How many goddamned laws do we fucking need? Apparently an INFINITE number. And if Congress doesn't pass as many NEW laws as the last Congress did...then they are not "doing their jobs".

I could have sworn that being in Congress was never supposed to have been their "job" They are supposed to Serve The People
AND the DUTIES of SERVING the people should be to...Serve the people.

Are new laws needed as times change (new technology, etc.). Yes, of course.
Does Congress need to be in session passing new laws every damn day? Hell no. Common sense SHOULD tell people that.

Congress's time should mostly be spent passing a budget (which the Dem Senate of Harry Reid never did) and attending to other legislative duties.
You know, shit that most of us could get done in a couple of months of hard work.

But all of this passing new laws constantly...when does it end? How much shit do everyday American people have to be told how, why, and when to do by passing new laws?

i don't disagree that there are a fuckload of laws, but that doesn't negate that congress's primary responsibility is to create and pass legislation.

seriously- maybe we should change the job responsibilities along with enacting term limits, removing big money from campaigning, and allowing for more than 2 parties. i'm not kidding.

Here is a summary of the process: Procedures of the United States House of Representatives - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't see anything about the voting process though.

Agreed, but not when you don't NEED a new law.

A painter has to know when to STOP painting on a picture.
A musician has to realize when NOT to play in a song.

You know what I'm saying. There is no wisdom in continuously passing legislation just to be able to say: "Hey look! We passed new laws! We're important!"

I admire your persistence, have you been practicing debating with a brick wall?

well, let's wait for the bills to pass to see what's in them. :winkwink:


the sticky wicket is the this guy is a representative, not a senator. the house of representatives is the part the is actually the most responsible for introducing new legislation, the idea being they are the closest to the people and would therefore introduce bills that are more on behalf of us folks.


which makes what this guy is claiming even more ludicrous. I get that our government is dysfunctional, but a representative claiming that most of the house never ever votes on bills and the speaker of the fucking house is gaming the system by sneaking votes through by nefariously calling voice votes out of the blue that this representative makes a superman-like mad dash to go block bills he can't even cite examples of.


come on now.

yeah, I've been zinging the crap out of **********. :1orglaugh

Get back to where you are supposed to be...standing next to salt.

how does this guy even know what's in the bills?

McConell, Pelosi, Reid, and Boehner should all be long gone from Washington D.C.
They have all been total embarrassments