freeme, stop with this righteous shit.

Your country does what, according to your leaders, is in your interest. So does every other country, including France, Germany and Russia...

Doesn't mean you have to agree with them ofcourse.

:1orglaugh

So where were you in 1939, 1940 and 1941?

Or don't your history books talk about that?

Before Pearl Harbor, they were selling arms to both sides: the good old american way.

Most European nations had huge numbers of civilian deaths aswell, that's another reason, if you fight for your country
you understand the risks involved, but when a bomb drops on your house while you're sleeping, that's a bit different.

What is the % in America that doesn't want a war,
isn't it around the 50% mark anyway.

So 50% of America wants a war, and you think the whole world is a c.u.n.t because 5.85 billion people dissagree with the 150 million that do.

Because Europeans are not brainewashed by CNN and they know that the real reason of the war is OIL and nothing else.

Uhm, If I'm not mistaken England asked for the US to help them against Hitler, but your country was experiencing an economic upturn after the depression, so neither your leaders OR the public wanted to be involved in the war.

You agreed to sell goods to England though, but they had to use their own transports to maintain US neutrality towards Hitler.

Heads in the sand?

No point, he can't read. Since when a 3 years old can read....

Freeme has left the building! :1orglaugh

whats your excuse?

:thumbsup

and what does it matter where we were from 39-41

we came to your aid

not saying we rescued you or anything that was a GROUP effort


BUT if we hadnt it would be a verry diiferent world today

and That's a fact you euros can spin all u wish

Fiddy!

Absolutely right...

Not as glorious as: we saved your asses, ya motherfuckers frenchmen....

The French military lost more men than the Americans.

If only they'd eaten Freedom Fries instead! :1orglaugh

hmm lets see the french died to liberate their own coutry

our men died their to liberate someone elses country

Joe I know you drink but even YOU can see the difference there

maybe if you close 1 eye you can see it in single instead of double

And even more civilians... But that is propaganda....

I WANT WAR , because I sell body bags!

Hmmm I wonder where they got those numbers from?
Denmark lost 4000 people military personnel during WW2????

12 - yes 12 - police officers/soldiers lost their lives in the German invasion of Denmark.

I suspect most of the other 3988 lost their lives fighting FOR the Germans against communism.

Or maybe the 4000 is a qualified CNN guesstimate. :)

Read your history books. First of all your americans are from origin europeans. Thats where your roots are. Second that war was about your freedom to.

do you know how many Iraqi children die each month from malnutrition? >> They die caused by the us embargo, not because saddam doesnt want to feed them.

hahahahahah

From the MOUTHS of MORONS!!!!!

PEARL where is serge when we need him!!!!!

Dude the embargo is for MILITRY GOODS

Saddam sells Millions in oil to France then instead of spedning the money like he is supposed to on food and meds for his people he buys weapon parts from the french the germans ect ect

man Serge was right
you all are FUN to push your buttons

:thumbsup

Forest,
Why dont you post under your own name.

The UN embargo, not the us embargo

Our buttons?

Who's pissed off because Europe doesn't agree with US?
Who started this thread?

For the record I could care less about Iraq. I don't fancy muslim people much to say the least...

What annoys me is the righteous angle Americans seem to hit in all pro-war arguements.
But this war will bite us all in the ass I'm sure.

Soccer players, hockey players, they all fight, but thats only like 5% of the population or so.

Close, but not quite. The U.S. stuck to the same idiotic "nonintervention" policies that allowed the facists to take control of Spain a lot longer than England did - easier to do in the days before ICBMs. While a great many in the U.S. were aware of the danger, and the Roosevelt administration was doing its best to help whereever possible, there was a large isolationist movement at the time. Inspired in part because of a geneuine hatred for war, in some cases admiration for the Nazi/Facist causes, and even a few instances of payoffs and bribery by the Nazis, they were a powerful force right up until Pearl Harbor.

Technically, we were at war with the Germans as early as the spring of 1940, when Roosevelt ordered the Navy and Coast Guard to go after any submarines attempting to sink any ships in a zone that extended far into international waters.

The strange thing is, the political descendants of the Isolationists and anti-internationalists are now the ones arguing for unilateral action.

Hmm interesting that some think that was ok 60 years ago, but people that express this feeling today, are ungrateful Euro-trash pussy wimps.

Ahh enough of this. Keep beeping out 'fuck' in your music and maintain the American purity.
It's all getting boring.

It is bad, that even in 2003, there are still people who did not receive a proper education to inform them about several of the most important historical events.

This has been said before, but it seems to be unclear to certain individuals:

- Europeans created the United States of America, no one else.

- The US started helping Europe once they saw profits could be made by supplying military equipment (which is fine, but don't post nonsense that the US helped because they cared so much about the poor Europeans.)

Also, I find it very disrespectful that you only mention the US soldiers fighting against the Nazis - do NOT forget the contributions of the Australians, British, Canadians, Russians, French resistance and many other nations and groups.

The current Dutch goverment is very PRO-America (so were most previous governments), they will follow any orders Washington gives them.

I don't think that is something to be proud of?

Godamn, enough of the stupid poll shit.
Polls dont mean anything because they only ask like maybe 100-500 people what they think.
You will never know exactly what the percent of anything is unless you ask everyone and that will never happen.

Did I mention any poll, I took a guess as it seems to be the democratic party line on it, and that's about 50% of the population isn't it, it was just a guess thats why I asked.

So:321GFY

:321GFY right back at you bitch

yeah the world would be really different but for you US guys too my dear , I am sure.
btw some of your replies are really stupid - I think you should see your psychologist - think about that for a while bro :Graucho

Hehe... Shrinks gave up on him....

Hmm..ok hey man, the British are on OUR SIDE..wtf?

yeah, yeah ... get rid of dictator my ass!
all you want is oil! it took 10 years to get slobodan milosevic to hagg!!!!

And Romania... They had to get rid of their dictator by themselves. US were to happy to do business with him....

Oh dear God. I don't think I can take it anymore.

Where did you get this information? Who told you? In what state of mind were you in when you created it?

Would you like the facts? Well here you go, read up:
http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/
And here:
http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/background/index.html

All REAL information revealing the REAL situation.

The vast majority of world population is against this war, we've all seen massive Europeans fighting against the war....so the fighting spirit is there, just not fighting for the side you wish they would.

A side note about soccer I find interesting:

One of the primary rules of the game is to maintain good sportsmanship....you can't question the ref or display anger against calls...and the exchange of the jersey tradition is as friendly as it gets.

So why do the fans get so damn violent after matches that are founded on good sportsmanship? :1orglaugh

I'm big world soccer fan by the way :thumbsup

LOL

I think you will find out how quickly that embargo is reversed as soon as Saddam is removed.

On another note, Iraq has very good soil and irrigation, there is no reason that they should depend on external aid for food except for gross incompetence and/or done on purpose by local government, ie. Saddam INC.

I mean, let's be real, this is where agricultare was first developed.

Completely agree. However, in order to win a fight - I like to know that I am at least aiming in the right direction.

I guess that's more the hang up now rather than will to fight.

It's easy to pull out the guns - but I think measuring consequenses is always a wise thing to do...

If Saddam Hussein attacks the US - with chemicals and bombs -killing innocent Americans, isn't it good to know that there was absolutely no way to avoid that confrontation?

I think so...Don't want blood on my hands that could have been avoided.