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[QUOTE=blackmonsters;20442495]Giving advise that to stay alive you shouldn't resist arrest is defending a cop? Telling someone that to prevent over reaction by police you should avoid resisting arrest is NOT condoning police violence it's common sense.
In almost every one of the shootings we argue about the guy getting shot would be alive today if he surrendered peacefully after being apprehended.
How the fuck is that bad advise?Comment
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[QUOTE=L-Pink;20442503]It's not, but it's kinda separate. It's like saying don't answer your husband if he's drunk and he won't flip out and beat the shit out of you. Completely factual, but diverting blame, even if it's 1%, away from where the blame needs to 100% go
It's human nature for some to run, it's human nature for some wives to answer back in the heat of the moment, it's human nature that I talk back and act like an asshole to someone who is an asshole to me, even if I know I'm gonna get the shit kicked out of me, but there's just zero way it's acceptable to shoot someone for running from the law, just like it's wholly wrong to stab a child for smart mouthing. It's dumb of a kid to smart-mouth a parent with a history of stabbing them, but much like these people who run because they have outstanding child support payments, that kind of over-reaction completely cancels out the first action, because they are literally too stupid, and don't have the mental capacity to understand there's gonna be a bad outcome. As much as I like to joke around, or reference darwin's award, or whatever, you just can't kill someone for being of a dumb IQ. I think that's what the others are saying (well obviously), but they aren't getting where you're coming from, dareisay because it's kinda irrelevant *within this set of circumstances*. He shouldn't have got behind on his payments, or had a busted taillight - which he most likely knew about, but like you said earlier - knowingly broke that law because he'd gamble on taking the consequence, same as he gambled on running and taking that consequence. You spoke earlier of how you know you break some laws - what if one day you hit the news because a psycho cop kills you, and a bunch of people on the internet said 'yeah but he didn't have his seatbelt on, he *knew* that was wrong, if he hadn't done that, he'd be alive today'. They'd be stating fact, but it wouldn't really be relevant in a thread somewhere about a berserk cop over-reacting
You're looking at the dead guys actions from the point of reference that has *your* intelligence, not his, is what I'm guessing people are getting upset about.Comment
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^ or crockett posting about how if the victims of that guy with the revenge porn site hadn't posed for nude pics etc the end result wouldn't have happened. It's factual, but shifting even a tiny portion away from the actual issueComment
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Ok, but you quoted the wrong guy.
It's not, but it's kinda separate. It's like saying don't answer your husband if he's drunk and he won't flip out and beat the shit out of you. Completely factual, but diverting blame, even if it's 1%, away from where the blame needs to 100% go
It's human nature for some to run, it's human nature for some wives to answer back in the heat of the moment, it's human nature that I talk back and act like an asshole to someone who is an asshole to me, even if I know I'm gonna get the shit kicked out of me, but there's just zero way it's acceptable to shoot someone for running from the law, just like it's wholly wrong to stab a child for smart mouthing. It's dumb of a kid to smart-mouth a parent with a history of stabbing them, but much like these people who run because they have outstanding child support payments, that kind of over-reaction completely cancels out the first action, because they are literally too stupid, and don't have the mental capacity to understand there's gonna be a bad outcome. As much as I like to joke around, or reference darwin's award, or whatever, you just can't kill someone for being of a dumb IQ. I think that's what the others are saying (well obviously), but they aren't getting where you're coming from, dareisay because it's kinda irrelevant *within this set of circumstances*. He shouldn't have got behind on his payments, or had a busted taillight - which he most likely knew about, but like you said earlier - knowingly broke that law because he'd gamble on taking the consequence, same as he gambled on running and taking that consequence. You spoke earlier of how you know you break some laws - what if one day you hit the news because a psycho cop kills you, and a bunch of people on the internet said 'yeah but he didn't have his seatbelt on, he *knew* that was wrong, if he hadn't done that, he'd be alive today'. They'd be stating fact, but it wouldn't really be relevant in a thread somewhere about a berserk cop over-reacting
You're looking at the dead guys actions from the point of reference that has *your* intelligence, not his, is what I'm guessing people are getting upset about.
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In what country is it legal for cops to shoot at fleeing suspects? Rwanda? Nazi Germany?
No one is claiming its smart to run from cops, but to use it as some kind of justification is simply a diversion. You either hold cops to a higher standard than everyone else or a lower standard. If your argument is don't run and you won't get shot because cops are to stressed out then you are holding cops to a lower standard than criminals.
Funny how conservatives hate the govt, doesnt trust the govt, yet they have no problem with govt agents shooting people in the back. It defies logic.Comment
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