And yet there is one member on GFY who has been here for a good many years, and who now runs a cross-sell nightmare of an affiliate program. This ass-hat (one of his favourite sayings) was one of the largest distributors of malware in the late 1990's / early 2000's. ...Malware which would make people's computers virtually unusable..costing likely millions in computer damage and lost productivity.
Now that is a person that would deserve a sentence like this and more.
Normally I am but when it comes time to stand my ground then I do so with extreme prejudice.
The problem here with all these people saying that "the prison sentence is too extreme" is that it's mainly the Igeneration feeling threatened. We've got a generation that's grown up on the Internet and they believe it's their right to do whatever the hell they want and suffer zero consequences.
So personally I think we're long overdue to make a few dirtbags into examples. If someone took a belt sander to the faces of a couple of these trolls and put it up on youtube we would see a lot less trolls in the future.
As you can guess I feel the sentence for the revenge porn site is far too light.. but it's a start. Now they need to go after all these bastards that posted on it.
The fact that anyone's (especially those working in this industry) defending this guy is baffling.
Sentence is definitely excessive
I think it should have been closer to say 7 years due to the financial extortion aspect... the whole process itself is punishing enough for someone let alone financial penalties they could have used. His life is totally over due to what could be just an error of judgement. There was a time when online cases didn't get prosecuted at all - now its totally overboard.
Sentence is definitely excessive
His life is totally over due to what could be just an error of judgement.
uhmm... no. His life is over for committing a broad range of serious crimes such as 20+ counts of identity theft and the felonious extortion of money from people as a business model.
Since when do facts not matter at all? You guys have opinions and literally know nothing about it, but the title of this thread.
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I think it should have been closer to say 7 years due to the financial extortion aspect... the whole process itself is punishing enough for someone let alone financial penalties they could have used. His life is totally over due to what could be just an error of judgement. There was a time when online cases didn't get prosecuted at all - now its totally overboard.
So this guy profits off ruining 20+ lives, but we should show this piece of scum leniency because we all make errors in judgement???
This guy knew exactly what he was doing. Punishment definitely fits the crime... If anything its too lenient
I thought Hunter Moore was doing the same shit- wasn't he charging like 200 to remove the photos, and linking to their fb profiles? How did he not catch extortion charges?
I thought Hunter Moore was doing the same shit- wasn't he charging like 200 to remove the photos, and linking to their fb profiles? How did he not catch extortion charges?
I thought Hunter Moore was doing the same shit- wasn't he charging like 200 to remove the photos, and linking to their fb profiles? How did he not catch extortion charges?
And yet there is one member on GFY who has been here for a good many years, and who now runs a cross-sell nightmare of an affiliate program. This ass-hat (one of his favourite sayings) was one of the largest distributors of malware in the late 1990's / early 2000's. ...Malware which would make people's computers virtually unusable..costing likely millions in computer damage and lost productivity.
Now that is a person that would deserve a sentence like this and more.
Most rapists and murderers get less time because they plea bargain. Around 96% of court cases are plea bargained meaning if you admit to wrong doing (even if you didn't do it) you will get less time compared if you go to trial. ANY child rapist, murderer or who ever does go to a full trial will often have the book thrown at them and get the maximum if found guilty. Chances are this fucker thought he had a case and wanted to go to trial, I'm sure there was a deal offered for less time and he didn't take it.
So this guy profits off ruining 20+ lives, but we should show this piece of scum leniency because we all make errors in judgement???
He was asking like around $300 to have people removed from the site. I don't know a huge amount of the details but I do think the punishment should fit the crime.... doesn't look like it does in this case.
18 years? He's not a murderer. Some terrorists will get out before he does....
Well here we go with another lame post by someone who didn't or can't read.
He didn't get convicted for uploading photos.
He got convicted of Identity theft, 21 counts; how the fuck is that the fault of anyone else except him?
He got convicted of 6 counts of extortion.
He posted porn without a model release; without 2257, without permission and when he got the equivalent of a DMCA, he extorted $250-$350 from the victim.
How is that anyone else's fault????
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That is an incredibly unbalanced sentence considering what a rapist might be sentenced.. People will be in and out of prison for murdering someone before this guy is up for parole.
Also, try not to forget the responsibility of the morons who decided to upload the pictures. Where's there punishment? Are we to assume that they were mindless followers of this evil?
Just strip him of all his wealth, it's stupid jailed a non violent person for 18 years. Costing taxpayers 60k a year. Is it any wonder the state is going broke and you get more raised taxation. So why punish yourselves as taxpayers.
I couldn't agree more. 18 years for a non violet crime is so fucking stupid. he should be in jail for what he did yes but 18 years? C'mon!
I couldn't agree more. 18 years for a non violet crime is so fucking stupid. he should be in jail for what he did yes but 18 years? C'mon!
Most rapists and murderers get less time because they plea bargain. Around 96% of court cases are plea bargained meaning if you admit to wrong doing (even if you didn't do it) you will get less time compared if you go to trial. ANY child rapist, murderer or who ever does go to a full trial will often have the book thrown at them and get the maximum if found guilty. Chances are this fucker thought he had a case and wanted to go to trial, I'm sure there was a deal offered for less time and he didn't take it.
Most rapists and murderers get less time because they plea bargain. Around 96% of court cases are plea bargained meaning if you admit to wrong doing (even if you didn't do it) you will get less time compared if you go to trial. ANY child rapist, murderer or who ever does go to a full trial will often have the book thrown at them and get the maximum if found guilty. Chances are this fucker thought he had a case and wanted to go to trial, I'm sure there was a deal offered for less time and he didn't take it.
This whole offering deals thing is something that doesn't fit into civilized society with functional legal system.
The whole fucking idea is to determine someone being guilty or not, and giving sentence if he is guilty. This deal thing skips the whole process that makes the legal system as legal system. Like that it is some inquisition, which only function is to get confessions.
This whole offering deals thing is something that doesn't fit into civilized society with functional legal system.
The whole fucking idea is to determine someone being guilty or not, and giving sentence if he is guilty. This deal thing skips the whole process that makes the legal system as legal system. Like that it is some inquisition, which only function is to get confessions.
Well, I agree it's fucked up, however, that is the legal system in America. It is also to cut down on the time it takes to generate a conviction. If everyone who was arrested had to have a jury trial it would backlog the system by years.
This whole offering deals thing is something that doesn't fit into civilized society with functional legal system.
The whole fucking idea is to determine someone being guilty or not, and giving sentence if he is guilty. This deal thing skips the whole process that makes the legal system as legal system. Like that it is some inquisition, which only function is to get confessions.
give me a fucking break and realize it's done around the globe. Italy, for instance, right off the top of my head.
Well, I agree it's fucked up, however, that is the legal system in America. It is also to cut down on the time it takes to generate a conviction. If everyone who was arrested had to have a jury trial it would backlog the system by years.
Everybody charged should get a trial. How in fuck they know that they have had the right guy in the first place (especially outside police)? Or should the guy be sentenced and or how much he should get?
Especially as not everything goes with the long way, at least around here. And based on US television series, not in there either. You know, you don't have some grand jury for speeding ticket.
Separation of power; the keystone for establishing and maintaining civilized societies. In this making deals thing you basically leave out the "judiciary".
"The typical division of branches is into a legislature, an executive, and a judiciary."
give me a fucking break and realize it's done around the globe. Italy, for instance, right off the top of my head.
There are shitty countries around the globe. Italy for instance isn't famous for being that good country; in mafia's grip, corrupted, ineffective government, misuse of government's money, etc., and if true; sucky legal system too.
There are shitty countries around the globe. Italy for instance isn't famous for being that good country; in mafia's grip, corrupted, ineffective government, misuse of government's money, etc., and if true; sucky legal system too.
you have to be a woman. wtf does the mafia have to do with what was said? and you do realise everyone *does* get a trial if they want? jesus to fuck I thought I was an argumentative cunt, but you take it to a whole new level.
In fact his comment about mafia was right. You just don't understand what mafia is. It's not a bunch of funny-speaking Italian kids with guns as it shown in the Sopranos. A real mafia is a coalescence of the government and сrime. It's when criminals literally own the whole legal system in your country. This is the real mafia, which has nothing to do with those harmless street clowns from the US TV shows
you have to be a woman. wtf does the mafia have to do with what was said? and you do realise everyone *does* get a trial if they want? jesus to fuck I thought I was an argumentative cunt, but you take it to a whole new level.
It has to do with Italy and how the society runs. Mafia is not that famous about caring about people and respecting human rights.
About "everyone gets trial" if they want is irrelevant, as most don't do actually; and every single one should do. Besides; the prosecutor might scare people to deals. The whole thing that you can make a deal is flawed. If you are guilty, you should be sentenced according to law, not based on some deal. And if you are innocent, there shouldn't be any deal offered in the first place. And then there is the whole process defining someone as guilty or not. So many things get bypassed by making deals.
What the fucking kind of legal system is the one where people are sentenced without a trial? It is sucky because that is even possible, and it is probable very sucky as people make deals rather than have a trial. So fucking sucky system that innocent people rather take jail time than use the legal system.
And I am not a woman, and if I were that wouldn't change this thing in a way or another.
What the fucking kind of legal system is the one where people are sentenced without a trial?
Even the evil Stalin's "troyka" was unable to sentence anyone w/o a trial. The USA legal system is based on the English law, while the civilized world uses the Roman one. They still use feet and pounds while the progressive civilization use the metric system.
That is an incredibly unbalanced sentence considering what a rapist might be sentenced.. People will be in and out of prison for murdering someone before this guy is up for parole.
Also, try not to forget the responsibility of the morons who decided to upload the pictures. Where's there punishment? Are we to assume that they were mindless followers of this evil?
Just strip him of all his wealth, it's stupid jailed a non violent person for 18 years. Costing taxpayers 60k a year. Is it any wonder the state is going broke and you get more raised taxation. So why punish yourselves as taxpayers.
It's the way the lovely US justice system works.. If you rape some one you are probably just raping one person. Sure they will toss in some other charges each with their own jail time, however he was changed 6 times with extortion and 21 times with identity theft.
All those charges are each their own charge when it comes to sentencing. It's been like this every since they figured out they could get Capone on income tax evasion rather than racketeering. The DOJ is allowed to stack charges on top of each other and if found guilty each charge gets a min prison term. It's not a system which is meant to serve justice anymore but a system meant to get plea bargains or convictions.
It's actually a fucked up way to do it, but the DOJ isn't concerned about guilt or innocence but rather if they can get you on "something". If the DOJ brings a case to trial and they don't get a conviction it's bad on their record and looked at not as justice served but rather a "loss".
I'm sure he was guilty but yes I agree it fucking way excessive and ridiculous that rapist can get less time in many cases.
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There are shitty countries around the globe. Italy for instance isn't famous for being that good country; in mafia's grip, corrupted, ineffective government, misuse of government's money, etc., and if true; sucky legal system too.
again, it's the common way things are done in first world countries.
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It's the way the lovely US justice system works.. If you rape some one you are probably just raping one person. Sure they will toss in some other charges each with their own jail time, however he was changed 6 times with extortion and 21 times with identity theft.
All those charges are each their own charge when it comes to sentencing. It's been like this every since they figured out they could get Capone on income tax evasion rather than racketeering. The DOJ is allowed to stack charges on top of each other and if found guilty each charge gets a min prison term. It's not a system which is meant to serve justice anymore but a system meant to get plea bargains or convictions.
It's actually a fucked up way to do it, but the DOJ isn't concerned about guilt or innocence but rather if they can get you on "something". If the DOJ brings a case to trial and they don't get a conviction it's bad on their record and looked at not as justice served but rather a "loss".
I'm sure he was guilty but yes I agree it fucking way excessive and ridiculous that rapist can get less time in many cases.
Hogwash.
Each count is a separate crime committed at a separate time on a separate victim.
He could have stopped after one victim; but the fact that he continued showed he had no remorse.
He stacked his own charges all by himself.
Bottom line : If we took porn out of the story and just considered the convictions, nobody here would think anything was excessive.
People here are really defending porn.
But his operation was exactly what all legit producers don't want in porn; free distribution of unlicensed content.
again, it's the common way things are done in first world countries.
No it isn't, and you don't have first world country for starters. Your society sucks in so many levels. You are only first world country in material standards from middle class up. And big, or at least expensive army.
Your legal system sucks, education system sucks, political system sucks, healthcare system sucks, cohesion sucks, and last but not least; your freedom sucks, which is funny regarding all your freedom propaganda (mainly towards own citizens).
And what is most funny; even so many things sucks; there is no will to make it better/ current sucking state is just denied. I get the sucking part; no one or no country is perfect, but I don't get this denial shit. And this is not anti-US text, this is anti-sucking text. Why you don't make things better?
Each count is a separate crime committed at a separate time on a separate victim.
He could have stopped after one victim; but the fact that he continued showed he had no remorse.
He stacked his own charges all by himself.
Bottom line : If we took porn out of the story and just considered the convictions, nobody here would think anything was excessive.
People here are really defending porn.
But his operation was exactly what all legit producers don't want in porn; free distribution of unlicensed content.
He had an ongoing business who's major source of income was felony extortion. He's lucky more counts weren't added.
No it isn't, and you don't have first world country for starters. Your society sucks in so many levels. You are only first world country in material standards from middle class up. And big, or at least expensive army.
Your legal system sucks, education system sucks, political system sucks, healthcare system sucks, cohesion sucks, and last but not least; your freedom sucks, which is funny regarding all your freedom propaganda (mainly towards own citizens).
And what is most funny; even so many things sucks; there is no will to make it better/ current sucking state is just denied. I get the sucking part; no one or no country is perfect, but I don't get this denial shit. And this is not anti-US text, this is anti-sucking text. Why you don't make things better?
broken record. we all get it and got it a long time ago, you're going to point your finger at USA over everything. nevertheless, plea bargains are not exclusive to USA and we didn't make it up either.
In fact his comment about mafia was right. You just don't understand what mafia is. It's not a bunch of funny-speaking Italian kids with guns as it shown in the Sopranos. A real mafia is a coalescence of the government and сrime. It's when criminals literally own the whole legal system in your country. This is the real mafia, which has nothing to do with those harmless street clowns from the US TV shows
and that has what to do with the fact italy allows for plea-bargaining? What next, stating that big business and banks own every gov't in the world, to make a point about... oh wait, to make zero fucking point at all. ok got it, my reasoning skills must be off.
person 1: why do you have plea bargaining?
person 2: To save time/money
person 1: The mafia!
person 2: huh?
person 1: the mafias! they aren't the tv shows you know!
person 2: holy fuck, goodbye.
broken record. we all get it and got it a long time ago, you're going to point your finger at USA over everything. nevertheless, plea bargains are not exclusive to USA and we didn't make it up either.
I didn't point everything; just the ones those suck. I can point some good things too if that eases your mind. Also, it doesn't matter that do others have the same sucky system or not. For example the common law system (referred as English law by CyberSEO) sucks, and you are not the only one to use it, but it doesn't make it any less sucky. Although for example UK has pulled it better, so it is less sucky in there.
You have the power to change what you do in your own country, no matter what others do.
I didn't point everything; just the ones those suck. I can point some good things too if that eases your mind. Also, it doesn't matter that do others have the same sucky system or not. For example the common law system (referred as English law by CyberSEO) sucks, and you are not the only one to use it, but it doesn't make it any less sucky. Although for example UK has pulled it better, so it is less sucky in there.
You have the power to change what you do in your own country, no matter what others do.
you think my mind is ill at ease over what you drone on about re: USA?
I agree that 18 years is too much. Instead give him one year. But strip him naked at all times and put up multiple webcams so the public can view him while he does everything at all times. Maybe also allow one of his victims to cane him 5 times once a week (So 52 victims, perhaps hold a lottery to decide who gets to do it)...on cam of course. That would be more fitting a punishment. He'd probably agree to it too to get out of prison faster. Of course they would call it cruel and unusual.
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I couldn't agree more. 18 years for a non violet crime is so fucking stupid. he should be in jail for what he did yes but 18 years? C'mon!
There has been lives ruined due to his website's operation and use plus then he charged the girls money to have pics removed. Real class act.
Sorry but 18 years is NOT enough when it ruins lives to the point of some killing themselves. He should get more time, to be honest. The whole business model was wrong, wrong wrong... and he knew what he was doing was wrong. Hopefully he gets all sorts of fucked-up in prison for the next 18 years.
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