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just saw fragments of Donald Trump speech

03-13-2016, 12:19 AM

and oh boy he so much reminds me of Barack Obama speeches in 2008...
another charismatic "independent" leader that will gladly continue status quo bringing no change and will be great buddy of the rich...

vot for him ! he is a real hope for America, just like Obama was

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03-13-2016, 12:49 AM

Not to defend Trump (I really dont know who would I vote for if I would be in the states), but he has no political background as far as I know, where usually every other candidate was stepping up the political ladder his/her whole life..

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03-13-2016, 12:49 AM

Not endorsing Trump, but who would you suggest is a better candidate to vote for?
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03-13-2016, 01:17 AM

noone, they are all actually the same being the part of the system that is corrupt (like it always was since 1000's of years in every country).
libertarianism <-> anarchism is my way of thinking

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Not endorsing Trump, but who would you suggest is a better candidate to vote for?
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03-13-2016, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by klinton

noone, they are all actually the same being the part of the system that is corrupt (like it always was since 1000's of years in every country).
libertarianism <-> anarchism is my way of thinking

I can understand being a Libertarian, I agree with many of those philosophies myself, but anyone who says they believe in anarchy or follow those beliefs I immediately dismiss as being a crazy person.
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03-13-2016, 03:49 AM

is it what comes to your mind when you think "anarchism" ???

it's just a type of social deal, like socialism, monarchism, oligarchism (ha ha) etc.
in any type of these ->> always the stronger and smarter wins....
do you think that it would be impossible to have anarch-syndicalism with generally accepted rules ?

Originally posted by kane

I can understand being a Libertarian, I agree with many of those philosophies myself, but anyone who says they believe in anarchy or follow those beliefs I immediately dismiss as being a crazy person.
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03-13-2016, 04:24 AM

The election is about Go-Getters versus Victims.

Right now that equals a Trump landslide. A few more years of victim mentality proliferation and that goes the other way.
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03-13-2016, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by klinton

is it what comes to your mind when you think "anarchism" ???

it's just a type of social deal, like socialism, monarchism, oligarchism (ha ha) etc.
in any type of these ->> always the stronger and smarter wins....
do you think that it would be impossible to have anarch-syndicalism with generally accepted rules ?

I think without some type of government/in charge power that provides some kind of security you will always have those who are stronger simply taking from those who are weaker. An anarchist based society, in my opinion, wouldn't last long. Eventually the strong would seize power and do as they please.

Humans are built that way. We can be happy with what we have, but we often want more.
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03-13-2016, 02:25 PM

Did any of these fragments contain a series of words that resembled a cogent point or coherent thought?
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03-18-2016, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by klinton

and oh boy he so much reminds me of Barack Obama speeches in 2008...
another charismatic "independent" leader that will gladly continue status quo bringing no change and will be great buddy of the rich...

vot for him ! he is a real hope for America, just like Obama was

Coke or Pepsi, remember, you always have a choice

Why don't you actually watch the whole speech instead of "fragments"

If it doesn't matter, then even more reason to vote Trump
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03-18-2016, 11:07 AM

Daddy won't come.
You are all alone.

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Why don't you actually watch the whole speech instead of "fragments"

If it doesn't matter, then even more reason to vote Trump
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03-18-2016, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by kane

I think without some type of government/in charge power that provides some kind of security you will always have those who are stronger simply taking from those who are weaker. An anarchist based society, in my opinion, wouldn't last long. Eventually the strong would seize power and do as they please.

Humans are built that way. We can be happy with what we have, but we often want more.

how did human groups organize themselves before "civilization" appeared a mere 6 thousand years ago?

don't confuse how humans react to an aberrant and temporary situation with "human nature."
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03-18-2016, 11:08 AM

you mean - like it is now ?

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Eventually the strong would seize power and do as they please..
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03-18-2016, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by ITraffic

how did human groups organize themselves before "civilization" appeared a mere 6 thousand years ago?

don't confuse how humans react to an aberrant and temporary situation with "human nature."

There is a big difference between then and now. Just 200 years ago travel was difficult as was communication. A smallish group of people could work together to determine for themselves how they want to live and what they want to do. In many cases those groups would select leaders and create a hierarchy of sorts. These days it simply wouldn't work. Just look at what happens in major cities when disasters hit or the power goes out. People instantly start looting and committing crimes.
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03-18-2016, 01:40 PM

hah, it is probably still different in LA, New York OR some small town in Montana and let's say, some small city in Scandinavia

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Just look at what happens in major cities when disasters hit or the power goes out. People instantly start looting and committing crimes.
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03-18-2016, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by klinton

hah, it is probably still different in LA, New York OR some small town in Montana and let's say, some small city in Scandinavia

It's mostly blacks who loot and riot
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