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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200
    #1

    Iran no longer on Terror Threat list?

    US Annual Threats Assessment Removes Iran from Terror Threats List - Breitbart

    I just don't get this, what's going on.

    The U.S. intelligence community?s Worldwide Threat Assessment removed Iran and its proxy Hezbollah from the list of terror threats to the United States.

    The annual assessment of the intelligence community, which is released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, led by General James Clapper, backed away from years of precedent when the decision was made to remove Iran and Hezbollah from the terrorism threats list, The Times of Israel reports.

    Outside of the politically correct verbiage and categorization issues (such as replacing the term ?jihadist? with ?violent extremist?), the report reveals that the intelligence community believes Tehran presents a persistent, significant threat to the United States.

    The report reveals that Iran presents a significant threat to the United States: ?The Islamic Republic of Iran is an ongoing threat to US national interests because of its support to the Assad regime in Syria, promulgation of anti-Israeli policies, development of advanced military capabilities, and pursuit of its nuclear program.?
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that
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    • mineistaken
      See signature :)
      • Apr 2007
      • 29656
      #2
      They made a joke about republicans so Obama decided to give them a break.

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        • crockett
          in a van by the river
          • May 2003
          • 76818
          #3
          It's simple what has Iran done in the last 20 years to keep it on the list? They have a proxy war with Isreal and that's it..

          So is he hezbolla lobbing rockets any worse than Israel bulldozing people's houses and kicking them off their land?

          This is a smart move because it puts Isreal on notice to start working on peace because we are not going to let them stand behind us and act as terrorist.

          Isreal has been a much bigger problem with stopping that conflict than Iran has been.
          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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            • celandina
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jun 2006
              • 11723
              #4
              They are doing your job in Iraq... Defeating ISIS after your fucked nation building

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                • Rochard
                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 75733
                  #5
                  Originally posted by celandina
                  They are doing your job in Iraq... Defeating ISIS after your fucked nation building
                  I hate to say this, but this might be partially correct. These are all middle east conflicts and we need to stay out. Let Iran fight ISIS.
                  Herschel Savage
                  Brooklyn, NY

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                    • crockett
                      in a van by the river
                      • May 2003
                      • 76818
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Rochard
                      I hate to say this, but this might be partially correct. These are all middle east conflicts and we need to stay out. Let Iran fight ISIS.
                      Considering we are also the reason Iran is controlled by Islamist I'd say staying the fuck out of their business is a pretty smart approach. The US/CIA are whom helped over through Iran's govt and eventually ushering in the Islamist Revolution which rules the region still to this day.

                      I guess we can say the Brits & USSR started the ball rolling and we kicked it through the goal posts..
                      .
                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                        • dyna mo
                          just a fucking jerk
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 68184
                          #7
                          Originally posted by celandina
                          They are doing your job in Iraq... Defeating ISIS after your fucked nation building
                          1. fyi, we didn't create radical islam, it was here waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaay before USA.

                          2. our government mistakenly went and kicked the hornet's nest and your answer to that is to go kick that nest again.

                          3. Iran is not fighting in Iraq, they are supporting, in less capacity than we are.

                          gofuckyourself.

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                            • Bryan G
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 8338
                              #8
                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                              1. fyi, we didn't create radical islam, it was here waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaay before USA.

                              2. our government mistakenly went and kicked the hornet's nest and your answer to that is to go kick that nest again.

                              3. Iran is not fighting in Iraq, they are supporting, in less capacity than we are.

                              gofuckyourself.
                              Had Bush left Saddam alone there would be no IS.
                              Bryan
                              skype: bryan.glass3 | ICQ 302999591

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                                • L-Pink
                                  working on my tan
                                  • Mar 2005
                                  • 39151
                                  #9
                                  Iran din do nuffin. In fact they are turning their country around.

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                                    • crockett
                                      in a van by the river
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 76818
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                      1. fyi, we didn't create radical islam, it was here waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaay before USA.

                                      2. our government mistakenly went and kicked the hornet's nest and your answer to that is to go kick that nest again.

                                      3. Iran is not fighting in Iraq, they are supporting, in less capacity than we are.

                                      gofuckyourself.
                                      I have showed you before that yes Iran does have troops in Iraq. Not to mention that Hezbolla is doing a large amount of fighting in Iraq as "Iran's" proxy as the OP called them.

                                      Iranian intervention in Iraq (2014–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                                      Iran sends troops into Iraq to aid fight against Isis militants | World news | The Guardian
                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                        • Barry-xlovecam
                                          It's 42
                                          • Jun 2010
                                          • 18083
                                          #11
                                          Would you want Iran to fill the vacuum of an ISIS defeat?
                                          Shia Sharia Law would be an improvement?

                                          The Ayatollah envisions a new Persian Empire just like Saddam thought he was to be the new Nebuchadnezzar. We supported Saddam in his war with Iran. Do you seriously think the current Iranian regime has forgotten this?

                                          You will wake up with more than fleas sleeping with this dog

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                                            • dyna mo
                                              just a fucking jerk
                                              • Dec 2008
                                              • 68184
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Bryan G
                                              Had Bush left Saddam alone there would be no IS.
                                              i don't dispute that, but the anti-USA sentiment was already building, another IS or al-quadda, or who the fuckever was already developing and the reason it was is not because of the USA, it's because those people need an enemy. we handed them one, US.

                                              USA foreign policy has always always always been a cluster fuck. in fact, i can prolly say foreign policy for every country is a cluster fuck.

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                                                • dyna mo
                                                  just a fucking jerk
                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                  • 68184
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                  I have showed you before that yes Iran does have troops in Iraq. Not to mention that Hezbolla is doing a large amount of fighting in Iraq as "Iran's" proxy as the OP called them.

                                                  Iranian intervention in Iraq (2014?present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                                                  Iran sends troops into Iraq to aid fight against Isis militants | World news | The Guardian
                                                  and i have showed you before that those articles don't disprove the fact that Iranians are not fighting in Iraq. they are there to support. there are no Iranians on the front lines fighting on behalf of Iraq. Even the top USA brass is OTR publically with that quoted in the same rag you link, the Guardian.

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                                                    • crockett
                                                      in a van by the river
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 76818
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                      Would you want Iran to fill the vacuum of an ISIS defeat?
                                                      Shia Sharia Law would be an improvement?

                                                      The Ayatollah envisions a new Persian Empire just like Saddam thought he was to be the new Nebuchadnezzar. We supported Saddam in his war with Iran. Do you seriously think the current Iranian regime has forgotten this?

                                                      You will wake up with more than fleas sleeping with this dog
                                                      Lets look at Communist powers as a source of an example as to what to do with the middle east. Two completely oppistie stragites have come into play with China & Russia.

                                                      We have Russia, whom the US has largely kept as an adversary. Not saying it's just the US to blame Russia has also of course caused this. This problem exists because both our country's have kept each other at arm's length.

                                                      Now look at the issues the world has with Russia today because they remain an "outsider".


                                                      Next lets look at China.. China was also a foe and and many ways still is, but more of a business competitor at this point rather an an arch enemy.. Yet we opened up to them and they opened up to us. We have interwoven our economies, which means war with China will likely never happen.

                                                      We did the same with Japan & Germany after WWII, rather than try to put our boot on their neck, we engaged into each other's economies and it's been a beneficial relationship every since. Could you ever imagine us in another war against Germany or Japan? No it's not going to happen because we are valuable trade partners with one another.


                                                      Now look at Iran.. rather than trying to work diplomacy with them, we try to force them to bend to our wishes. Where has that gotten us since the 80's? No where and they now are gaining more influence.

                                                      While perhaps at this point, they might not be our best buds, if we remove the boot from their neck and offer up diplomacy, perhaps relations will grow better. One thing is 100% certain along as a boot is stomped on someone's neck they will not be very happy with the on wearing the shoe..

                                                      Considering US & Iran at one point had reasonable relation ships to the point they are still flying Phantom F4's which we sold them.. I'd say it's worth attempting diplomacy with them..

                                                      You don't win people over to your team by shoving their face in the dirt. You win them over by opening up and creating a mutual benefit.


                                                      In fact I'd say the only reason we haven't done this already, is largely due to lobbyist from Israel.. Israel wants open hostility because it's easier for them to crush their opponents and take more land.
                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                        • Barry-xlovecam
                                                          It's 42
                                                          • Jun 2010
                                                          • 18083
                                                          #15
                                                          Let's just look at Iran and their record since their Islamic Revolution.

                                                          Confusing the core issues by trying to obfuscate facts is just media spin.

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                                                            • pr0phet
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                              • 1041
                                                              #16
                                                              Obama has decided to go with the lesser of 2 evils and has chosen Iran over Israel
                                                              Pr0phet

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                                                                • brassmonkey
                                                                  Pay It Forward
                                                                  • Sep 2005
                                                                  • 77396
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                  Iran din do nuffin. In fact they are turning their country around.
                                                                  they gone have jew nuffins
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                                                                    • crockett
                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 76818
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                      Let's just look at Iran and their record since their Islamic Revolution.

                                                                      Confusing the core issues by trying to obfuscate facts is just media spin.
                                                                      So you are saying we should pretty much put sanctions on every middle eastern country as well as most in Africa and remove all diplomatic communications with them all as well?

                                                                      How is Iran any worse than Saudi Arabia? Were any Iranians on the fights whom attacked us on 9/11? Nope sure wasn't but how many Saudi nationals were on those flights? Here I'll give you an answer...


                                                                      The hijackers in the September 11 attacks were 19 men affiliated with al-Qaeda, and 15 of the 19 were citizens of Saudi Arabia.

                                                                      How many arrests have the Saudi's made in relation to the 9/11 hijackers whom obviously had support with-in their boarders? Not a single fucking one..


                                                                      What has Iran done to the US in the last 20 years?
                                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                        • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                          It's 42
                                                                          • Jun 2010
                                                                          • 18083
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Make your deal with the devil then ...
                                                                          [I]ran?s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final word on any nuclear deal, supported Iran?s nuclear negotiating team in a speech for the Iranian New Year while stressing there was no basis for broader discussions with the United States on regional issues.

                                                                          But referring to one of the major impediments in the talks, he told an audience of thousands at a shrine in the northeastern city of Mashhad that sanctions must be lifted in one go, not in a step-by-step manner, as Iran fulfills its obligations under an accord, as the United States and its negotiating partners have proposed.

                                                                          ?If the other side has the ability to reimpose sanctions against the Iranian nation under any excuse, there is then absolutely no reason whatsoever for our negotiating team to accept a term which would be irreversible,? he said. Underscoring his demand for quick sanctions relief, Ayatollah Khamenei insisted Iran has remained faithful to its commitments in the talks.

                                                                          ?We did not break promises, we did not double-talk and we did not change our minds,? Ayatollah Khamenei said. ?In contrast, the other side, the Americans, broke their promises, they changed their views and they cheated.? ...

                                                                          http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/wo...th-france.html
                                                                          You realize Iran is upwind of most of their antagonists ...

                                                                          Yada Yada Yada ... Same shit new day ....

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                                                                            • Rochard
                                                                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                              • 75733
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo

                                                                              2. our government mistakenly went and kicked the hornet's nest and your answer to that is to go kick that nest again.
                                                                              We didn't kick the hornet's nest. It was buzzing long before the US looked in that direction.
                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                • Rochard
                                                                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 75733
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                  Would you want Iran to fill the vacuum of an ISIS defeat?
                                                                                  Let's think about this for just a moment.

                                                                                  How many countries has the US invaded or attacked in the past one hundred years, and how many hundreds of thousands or millions are dead because of US military action.

                                                                                  Then compare that to all of the countries Iran has attacked.

                                                                                  Now tell me who the bad guy really is.
                                                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                    • Zarathustra
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                      • 1094
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      To be honest political strategy really isn't meant for civilians/kids/general public etc to consume cause they're just not smart enough to realize what's actually going on

                                                                                      Strategy isn't if i like u i'll tell u i like u, if i hate u i'll tell u i hate u. :D

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                                                                                        • crockett
                                                                                          in a van by the river
                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                          • 76818
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                          Make your deal with the devil then ...


                                                                                          You realize Iran is upwind of most of their antagonists ...

                                                                                          Yada Yada Yada ... Same shit new day ....
                                                                                          So it's ok to make a deal with the Saudi devil but not the Iranian one?
                                                                                          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                            • klinton
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 8766
                                                                                              #24


                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                              I hate to say this, but this might be partially correct. These are all middle east conflicts and we need to stay out. Let Iran fight ISIS.

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                                                                                                • Vendzilla
                                                                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                  • 23200
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Iran threatened the US Navy just last year
                                                                                                  Also they had a mock US aircraft carrier they sank with cruise missiles
                                                                                                  That was this year.
                                                                                                  I was off the coast of Iran during the Iran crisis.
                                                                                                  Human rights are always being violated
                                                                                                  They don't have a good history of keeping their promises.
                                                                                                  And why are we making a deal with the devil and pissing off a long time friend of the US?
                                                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                  think about that

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                                                                                                    • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                      It's 42
                                                                                                      • Jun 2010
                                                                                                      • 18083
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      The Americans ?want to turn the people against the government,? Khamenei said, calling Obama?s message ?dishonest.?

                                                                                                      As the supreme leader spoke, a crowd chanted, ?Death to America.? Khamenei said the rhetoric was justified because America is behind all threats to Iran.

                                                                                                      Despite such criticism and the terms he is seeking, Khamenei?s speech represented a qualified support for continued negotiations, analysts said.

                                                                                                      Ali Khorram, a former top Iranian diplomat, said the supreme leader was signaling that Iran was ready to negotiate and that ?if the deal doesn?t happen, it is the fault of the USA.?

                                                                                                      As crowd chants 'Death to America,' Khamenei backs nuclear talks - LA Times
                                                                                                      Same shit as 1979 ... I am not sure of the end game here but I would speculate more negotiations. They are just buying time.

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                                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                                                          • 68184
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                          We didn't kick the hornet's nest. It was buzzing long before the US looked in that direction.
                                                                                                          Yes we did and I know it was around before, that was #1 on my list- radical Islam was around wàaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before USA.

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                                                                                                            • brassmonkey
                                                                                                              Pay It Forward
                                                                                                              • Sep 2005
                                                                                                              • 77396
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              hard to believe the other side is just as evil. the devil owns this world.
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                                                                                                                • klinton
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                  • 8766
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  so what it was doing so close to Iran, Sherlock ?
                                                                                                                  when was the last time when Iran sent its ships or drones close even to Cuba or Mexico ?
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                  Iran threatened the US Navy just last year
                                                                                                                  Also they had a mock US aircraft carrier they sank with cruise missiles
                                                                                                                  That was this year.

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                                                                                                                    • bronco67
                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                      • 29032
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      You conservatives are all about having your boogeymen. How could you get through your day without some good ol American fear?

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                                                                                                                        • Bryan G
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                          • 8338
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                          i don't dispute that, but the anti-USA sentiment was already building, another IS or al-quadda, or who the fuckever was already developing and the reason it was is not because of the USA, it's because those people need an enemy. we handed them one, US.

                                                                                                                          USA foreign policy has always always always been a cluster fuck. in fact, i can prolly say foreign policy for every country is a cluster fuck.
                                                                                                                          Bryan
                                                                                                                          skype: bryan.glass3 | ICQ 302999591

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                                                                                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                              • 23200
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                              You conservatives are all about having your boogeymen. How could you get through your day without some good ol American fear?
                                                                                                                              I'm sure idiots like you said the same thing about Hitler.

                                                                                                                              Are you telling me that Liberals think we should just let Isis do whatever it's going to do?
                                                                                                                              Are you telling me that when a country that has a long standing of hate against the US and Ballistic missiles in it's arsenal , while working with nuclear power is not anything to worry about, are you that dense?

                                                                                                                              Shahab-3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                                                                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                              think about that

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                                                                                                                                • seeandsee
                                                                                                                                  Check SIG!
                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                  • 50945
                                                                                                                                  #33
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                                                                                                                                    • klinton
                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 8766
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      you mean shoarma kebab ?
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
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                                                                                                                                        • crockett
                                                                                                                                          in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 76818
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                          I'm sure idiots like you said the same thing about Hitler.

                                                                                                                                          Are you telling me that Liberals think we should just let Isis do whatever it's going to do?
                                                                                                                                          Are you telling me that when a country that has a long standing of hate against the US and Ballistic missiles in it's arsenal , while working with nuclear power is not anything to worry about, are you that dense?

                                                                                                                                          Shahab-3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                                                                                                                                          Hey know it all your "conservative"great grand daddy wanted us to join Hitler's side. Fucking Prescott Bush whom was George Bush SR's dad for fuck sake and Jr's granddaddy.. Was convicted on the "trading with the enemy act". His bank kept doing business with the Nazi's well after sanctions were set in place and we were "fighting" them..

                                                                                                                                          Yes the father & grand daddy of 2 American presidents and a 3rd whom is now in the running came from sperm of a man whom helped Hitler make profits while American soldiers were fighting him. Think about that when you vote for Jeb Bush, that his family's money came from the banking industry & from Nazis.
                                                                                                                                          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                                            • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                              • 68184
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Zarathustra
                                                                                                                                              To be honest political strategy really isn't meant for civilians/kids/general public etc to consume cause they're just not smart enough to realize what's actually going on

                                                                                                                                              Strategy isn't if i like u i'll tell u i like u, if i hate u i'll tell u i hate u. :D
                                                                                                                                              so political strategists aren't people- civilians/general public? where do they come from and how do they become so rational in your view? Rational in spite of the massive global political clusterfuck. maybe they are emotionless robots! tranformers, they were people but they instantly transform into brainiac political strategists upon receiving PAC monies.

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                                                                                                                                                • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                  just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                  • 68184
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  so crockett, you're of the opinion that Iran should be allowed to pursue nuclear technology and acquire nuclear materials?

                                                                                                                                                  that's fine with you? just a yes or no is fine.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Joshua G
                                                                                                                                                      dumb libs love censorship
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2008
                                                                                                                                                      • 8198
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                      I just don't get this, what's going on.
                                                                                                                                                      its refreshing when you admit you have no clue how the world works.

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                                                                                                                                                        • just a punk
                                                                                                                                                          So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 32393
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                          I just don't get this, what's going on.
                                                                                                                                                          Why should Iran be on terror threat list? How many terrorist attacks against the USA Iran were attempted by Iran in 21st century? Now tell me how many were commuted by your "ally" Saudi Arabia? Don't you see something very ugly and weird in this situation?..
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                                                                                                                                                            • Joshua G
                                                                                                                                                              dumb libs love censorship
                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2008
                                                                                                                                                              • 8198
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                              so crockett, you're of the opinion that Iran should be allowed to pursue nuclear technology and acquire nuclear materials?

                                                                                                                                                              that's fine with you? just a yes or no is fine.
                                                                                                                                                              problem is your premise. its the "should be allowed" part. as if the USA or anybody else can control what iran wants to do. they will do it if they want, agreement or not.

                                                                                                                                                              the key problem, dyna mo, is the USA telling other countries they cant have nukes while we say we have to have them. there is an issue of class amongst the nations where the have-nots feel second class to the haves. this is understandable given how we care so much about useless north korea.

                                                                                                                                                              fact is, until the USA gives up nukes, we are hypocrites to tell any other nation they cant have them. So who cares if crokett or anything else thinks what iran "should be allowed" to do. such an imperialist thought you made.

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                                                                                                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                  so crockett, you're of the opinion that Iran should be allowed to pursue nuclear technology and acquire nuclear materials?

                                                                                                                                                                  that's fine with you? just a yes or no is fine.
                                                                                                                                                                  Where did I ever say that? We are i diplomatic talks with them to stop their weapons program.


                                                                                                                                                                  So there are 3 options to attempt to stop them from creating a nuclear bomb.

                                                                                                                                                                  Option 1#

                                                                                                                                                                  Spend billions of dollars and kill thousands of people, including US solders, not to mention the fact that Iran would be the most equipped country to attack on US soil with independent operatives if we did go to war with them, that we have fought since WW2.

                                                                                                                                                                  Destroy yet another country and breed more extremist and hope they don't attack back on our own soil with independent actors..

                                                                                                                                                                  This is the neo cons wet dream come true breeding even more Islamist extremist in the process.. It seems to have worked so well in Iraq for example.. (/sarcasm)


                                                                                                                                                                  Option 2#

                                                                                                                                                                  Attempt diplomacy and gain access to their nuclear program giving us an idea of what they have and what they are capable of. This gives us UN inspections and develops more trust over time.

                                                                                                                                                                  Option #3


                                                                                                                                                                  Talk really sternly to them and point your finger saying we are going to blow you up if you cross this line.. Oh wait umm I meant this line over here.. wait no this line here..

                                                                                                                                                                  This gives us no record of what they are capable off which causes more tension and distrust which will eventually lead to them saying Hey guys look at our nuclear bomb!!!

                                                                                                                                                                  I assume this is your preferred choice of action!!



                                                                                                                                                                  So tell us Dyno Mo.. do you prefer we start another war to "maybe" stop them.. You can't assume we would win.. or do you just want to be very mean and point your finger saying bad. bad little Mohammad..

                                                                                                                                                                  Obviously you don't seem to care for the option of diplomacy so you must be in one of the other 2 camps.. Which one is it?
                                                                                                                                                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                      just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                      • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Joshua G
                                                                                                                                                                      problem is your premise. its the "should be allowed" part. as if the USA or anybody else can control what iran wants to do. they will do it if they want, agreement or not.

                                                                                                                                                                      the key problem, dyna mo, is the USA telling other countries they cant have nukes while we say we have to have them. there is an issue of class amongst the nations where the have-nots feel second class to the haves. this is understandable given how we care so much about useless north korea.

                                                                                                                                                                      fact is, until the USA gives up nukes, we are hypocrites to tell any other nation they cant have them. So who cares if crokett or anything else thinks what iran "should be allowed" to do. such an imperialist thought you made.

                                                                                                                                                                      it's not my premise, Joshua G.. Moreover, Joshua G., it's NATO and the entire western world USA is representing here.


                                                                                                                                                                      Finally, Joshua G., no it's not hypocritical. you seem to think the world can put the nuclear genie back in its bottle, that's not reality.


                                                                                                                                                                      But thanks Joshue G. for letting us know you have no problems with more nukes in the ME. somehow that's OK, because the opposite would be hypocritical and that's much worse.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                          • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                                                          Where did I ever say that? We are i diplomatic talks with them to stop their weapons program.


                                                                                                                                                                          So there are 3 options to attempt to stop them from creating a nuclear bomb.

                                                                                                                                                                          Option 1#

                                                                                                                                                                          Spend billions of dollars and kill thousands of people, including US solders, not to mention the fact that Iran would be the most equipped country to attack on US soil with independent operatives if we did go to war with them, that we have fought since WW2.

                                                                                                                                                                          Destroy yet another country and breed more extremist and hope they don't attack back on our own soil with independent actors..

                                                                                                                                                                          This is the neo cons wet dream come true breeding even more Islamist extremist in the process.. It seems to have worked so well in Iraq for example.. (/sarcasm)


                                                                                                                                                                          Option 2#

                                                                                                                                                                          Attempt diplomacy and gain access to their nuclear program giving us an idea of what they have and what they are capable of. This gives us UN inspections and develops more trust over time.

                                                                                                                                                                          Option #3


                                                                                                                                                                          Talk really sternly to them and point your finger saying we are going to blow you up if you cross this line.. Oh wait umm I meant this line over here.. wait no this line here..

                                                                                                                                                                          This gives us no record of what they are capable off which causes more tension and distrust which will eventually lead to them saying Hey guys look at our nuclear bomb!!!

                                                                                                                                                                          I assume this is your preferred choice of action!!



                                                                                                                                                                          So tell us Dyno Mo.. do you prefer we start another war to "maybe" stop them.. You can't assume we would win.. or do you just want to be very mean and point your finger saying bad. bad little Mohammad..

                                                                                                                                                                          Obviously you don't seem to care for the option of diplomacy so you must be in one of the other 2 camps.. Which one is it?

                                                                                                                                                                          settle down, i didn't say you said that, thus my yes or no question to you. Again, I simply asked you if you think it's OK allowing Iran to pursue nuclear tech and materials.

                                                                                                                                                                          this has nothing to do with me and my view, I am inquiring about YOUR view.


                                                                                                                                                                          do you think that's OK?

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                                                                                                                                                                            • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                              • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Joshua G. thinks I'm the guy who came up with the Iran is too radical for nuclear technology premise.


                                                                                                                                                                              that's pretty cool he thinks of me that way

                                                                                                                                                                              nice right!

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Joshua G
                                                                                                                                                                                  dumb libs love censorship
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 8198
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                  it's not my premise, Joshua G.. Moreover, Joshua G., it's NATO and the entire western world USA is representing here.


                                                                                                                                                                                  Finally, Joshua G., no it's not hypocritical. you seem to think the world can put the nuclear genie back in its bottle, that's not reality.


                                                                                                                                                                                  But thanks Joshue G. for letting us know you have no problems with more nukes in the ME. somehow that's OK, because the opposite would be hypocritical and that's much worse.

                                                                                                                                                                                  actually its just the nuclear powers negotiating with iran, not the world, not NATO. your most basic facts, as usual, flimsy.

                                                                                                                                                                                  do i have a problem with nukes in the ME? who cares. unless the USA leads the effort to put the genie back in the bottle, the genie is going to end up in the ME. The question is whether the hypocrities that think only certain people should possess them will change their tune before DC is a fireball.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • celandina
                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 11723
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                                      I hate to say this, but this might be partially correct. These are all middle east conflicts and we need to stay out. Let Iran fight ISIS.

                                                                                                                                                                                      If history repeats itself this was the same attitude of the Romans in the 5th century.... " let the barbarians kill each other and then we' walk over them"....

                                                                                                                                                                                      A big mistake, the Barbarians figured it out joined together and in less then30 years destroyed the Roman empire... Just Google Theoderic the Amal...and then go into your bunker.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • sandman!
                                                                                                                                                                                          Icq: 14420613
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 15431
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          when has Hezbollah attacked the usa ?

                                                                                                                                                                                          they have not i dont think

                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                          US Annual Threats Assessment Removes Iran from Terror Threats List - Breitbart

                                                                                                                                                                                          I just don't get this, what's going on.

                                                                                                                                                                                          The U.S. intelligence community?s Worldwide Threat Assessment removed Iran and its proxy Hezbollah from the list of terror threats to the United States.

                                                                                                                                                                                          The annual assessment of the intelligence community, which is released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, led by General James Clapper, backed away from years of precedent when the decision was made to remove Iran and Hezbollah from the terrorism threats list, The Times of Israel reports.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Outside of the politically correct verbiage and categorization issues (such as replacing the term ?jihadist? with ?violent extremist?), the report reveals that the intelligence community believes Tehran presents a persistent, significant threat to the United States.

                                                                                                                                                                                          The report reveals that Iran presents a significant threat to the United States: ?The Islamic Republic of Iran is an ongoing threat to US national interests because of its support to the Assad regime in Syria, promulgation of anti-Israeli policies, development of advanced military capabilities, and pursuit of its nuclear program.?
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                                                                                                              It's 42
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 18083
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Ayatollahs with atomic bombs sounds very reasonable ...

                                                                                                                                                                                              Has anyone openly threatened to invade Iran? The Ayatollah is delusional, maybe paranoic, and the Supreme Leader of a theocracy that has divine right to rule.

                                                                                                                                                                                              And you want to give The Ayatollah a nuclear weapons capability?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                                  just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Joshua G
                                                                                                                                                                                                  actually its just the nuclear powers negotiating with iran, not the world, not NATO. your most basic facts, as usual, flimsy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  do i have a problem with nukes in the ME? who cares. unless the USA leads the effort to put the genie back in the bottle, the genie is going to end up in the ME. The question is whether the hypocrities that think only certain people should possess them will change their tune before DC is a fireball.


                                                                                                                                                                                                  you might want to reread what i wrote because it's clear you didn't read it properly the first time. I'll repeat it here- USA is representing NATO and the entire West.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  If you think that's flimsy, here's NATO's view on iran and nuclear proliferation to get you squared away with facts

                                                                                                                                                                                                  NATO Review - Nuclear chess: what's Iran's next move?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Next, I did not ask you about your view on Iran and nukes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • celandina
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 11723
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ayatollahs with atomic bombs sounds very reasonable ...

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Has anyone openly threatened to invade Iran? The Ayatollah is delusional, maybe paranoic, and the Supreme Leader of a theocracy that has divine right to rule.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      And you want to give The Ayatollah a nuclear weapons capability?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Comparing to El Baghdadi the Ayatollah is a democrat

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