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directfiesta 03-16-2003 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by AM Jeff
Bottom line is.


They found ONE warhead last week that can contain chemical or boilogical weapons.
If there in ONE...there is more.


Duh... Didn't hear that from the UN inspectors....

Even Bush didn't talk about that.

I will call him now to give him the good news....

A link would help tough....

ThunderBalls 03-16-2003 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by turbo

Sadam thinks it's better to torture and kill his 'citizens' if they disagree with him, and to threaten 'The West' with biological weapons. Propoganda can and will always make the US the bad guy... that's why it's called propganda.

The propaganda has obviously effected you.
China tortures and kills its citizens that disagree with their government, why arent you advocating attacking them?
I'll tell you why, because bush and rush hasnt fed that shit in your head.

And show me proof that Iraq has threatened the west in any way, let alone with biological weapons. Yet North Korea threatens us almost daily with nukes, but because bush says Iraq is the 'real' threat people like you buy it blindly.

I really would like to know how Iraq is a threat to the US, and any proof Iraq has ever done anything to the US. This bullshit that they may do something in the future is the worse argument for war I have ever heard. Whats next? Executing people before
they kill?

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
show me proof that Iraq has threatened the west in any way, let alone with biological weapons. Yet North Korea threatens us almost daily with nukes, but because bush says Iraq is the 'real' threat people like you buy it blindly.

Iraq threatens allies of the US.... might as well be threatening us directly. (which they have on numerous occasions as well) Hence, the term "ally".... means we come and kick ass when someone fucks with you...
Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are/were an ally of the US. Invade Kuwait..... expect punishment from the Eagle.

Is it really that difficult to comprehend? Saudi AND kuwait ASKED for our help in '91.....

Stop making the US out to be some evil monster empire.... we're the only thing preventing lunatic fucks like Hussein from owning your ass for good.

dapproid 03-16-2003 04:29 PM

Can anyone in a few clear sentences explain why the U.S wants to invade Iraq. I think this discussion is a little diffuse right now.

directfiesta 03-16-2003 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head



Iraq threatens allies of the US.... might as well be threatening us directly.

I haven't heard Iraq threaten nobody , aside from saying that if attacked they will defend themselves.

On the other hand, I hear Bush daily ( again today with his poker game allusion: what a dumb fuck) threaten , blackmail, insult many countries....

I would love 10 minutes in a closed room alone with him....
I would fuck him his ass ..... with is own stretch cock!

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by dapproid
Can anyone in a few clear sentences explain why the U.S wants to invade Iraq. I think this discussion is a little diffuse right now.
dude... we already own southern Iraq.... we have for a long fucking time. Invade Iraq? It's already half ours.

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta


I haven't heard Iraq threaten nobody , aside from saying that if attacked they will defend themselves.

I guess the destruction of Kuwait was a clear act of defending themselves....

421Fill 03-16-2003 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls


The propaganda has obviously effected you.
China tortures and kills its citizens that disagree with their government, why arent you advocating attacking them?
I'll tell you why, because bush and rush hasnt fed that shit in your head.

And show me proof that Iraq has threatened the west in any way, let alone with biological weapons. Yet North Korea threatens us almost daily with nukes, but because bush says Iraq is the 'real' threat people like you buy it blindly.

I really would like to know how Iraq is a threat to the US, and any proof Iraq has ever done anything to the US. This bullshit that they may do something in the future is the worse argument for war I have ever heard. Whats next? Executing people before
they kill?

See this is the part where you assume you know me, but you don't... I think we should bomb China, too. As far as how Iraq threatens the US, I've said it many times that they have threatened us with Small Pox and with other Biological Weapons.

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 04:35 PM

Fuck Iraq.... I'd love to see the whole fucking place glassed and done with.

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 04:36 PM

make a fresh new example of those fucks.

421Fill 03-16-2003 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta


I haven't heard Iraq threaten nobody , aside from saying that if attacked they will defend themselves.

On the other hand, I hear Bush daily ( again today with his poker game allusion: what a dumb fuck) threaten , blackmail, insult many countries....

I would love 10 minutes in a closed room alone with him....
I would fuck him his ass ..... with is own stretch cock!

You haven't heard Iraq threatening because you have clearly made up your mind as to who is 'the bad guy' and therefore only hear what you want to hear. People, We Know Bush Is Not Too Bright. But how does that make Sadam the good guy?

directfiesta 03-16-2003 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

I guess the destruction of Kuwait was a clear act of defending themselves....

Always to side two a coin....

"

Thursday, September 14, 2000




Iraq claims Kuwait stealing its oil


BAGHDAD (AP) -- Iraq accused Kuwait on Thursday of digging wells to steal Iraqi oil and warned it will take proper measures to stop its neighbour's actions.

"The rulers of Kuwait have been, in the past few years, digging oil wells aimed at bleeding reserves in the border area," the Iraqi News Agency quoted Oil Minister Amer Mohammed Rashid saying.

The statement came one day after Rashid announced Iraq would not be able to reach its goal of pumping 3.4 million barrels a day by the end of the year, due to the unavailability of spare parts and materials.

"


http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSGas/gas4_sep14.html


And no, it is not about OIL :Graucho

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta


Always to side two a coin....

"

Thursday, September 14, 2000




Iraq claims Kuwait stealing its oil


BAGHDAD (AP) -- Iraq accused Kuwait on Thursday of digging wells to steal Iraqi oil and warned it will take proper measures to stop its neighbour's actions.

"The rulers of Kuwait have been, in the past few years, digging oil wells aimed at bleeding reserves in the border area," the Iraqi News Agency quoted Oil Minister Amer Mohammed Rashid saying.

The statement came one day after Rashid announced Iraq would not be able to reach its goal of pumping 3.4 million barrels a day by the end of the year, due to the unavailability of spare parts and materials.

"




http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSGas/gas4_sep14.html




And no, it is not about OIL :Graucho

ahhhh, so the proper response is to move in, destroy everything, rape women, slaughter kids in the streets, and burn it all to the ground....


I can't believe you fucking support this.

dapproid 03-16-2003 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

dude... we already own southern Iraq.... we have for a long fucking time. Invade Iraq? It's already half ours.

That wasn't exactly what I was looking for.

directfiesta 03-16-2003 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by turbo


But how does that make Sadam the good guy?

Find one sentence where I say Sadaam Hussein is " the good guy".

Americans now have this new thinking ( well , not sure ...) and comprehension process : they make assumptions because the person did not say something.

Like it is not because we do not find WMD that they don't have them, so they do have them.

To tell you the truth, if this war was NOT going to affect us ( other countries than US, Iraq, Israel) , I would say : go for it. Spend american lives, american dollars, get shot by snipers, and so on. You want it, take it...

And I am sure that will solve the terrorists future attacks....



But it is going to influence the whole world.... Too bad.:BangBang: :BangBang:

directfiesta 03-16-2003 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

ahhhh, so the proper response is to move in, destroy everything, rape women, slaughter kids in the streets, and burn it all to the ground....


I can't believe you fucking support this.

Are you referring to nexrt week war????

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
And I am sure that will solve the terrorists future attacks....
probably won't.... but you know what it WILL solve?

It will solve the Iraq problems once and for all. One down off the list.

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta


Are you referring to nexrt week war????

no, I'm referring to what Iraq did to Kuwait 12 years ago.

directfiesta 03-16-2003 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


probably won't.... but you know what it WILL solve?

It will solve the Iraq problems once and for all. One down off the list.

restitution of settlement colonized by Israel, UN securitu forces to enforce negotiated borders of Israel - Palestine...
That would be a first step.

2nd step: stop aggravating and humilating other nations, religions, etc....

But your way will create a new "Hezbollah" in Iraq, new terrorists.


No point anyway to discuss, the dices are thwon and the only thing they will tell us is the date....

directfiesta 03-16-2003 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


no, I'm referring to what Iraq did to Kuwait 12 years ago.

You mean the tearfull report of Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubator... lol:)

Yeah, you know, the report from the daughter of an ambassador that wasn't even in Kuwait...


Propaganda.... WAG the dog ...


Sadaam Hussein is a butcher, a dictator, no questions. He did attack and gas Kurds in the north of Iraq during an uprising after the CIA convinced them to rebel.
He is a sick fuck... and I think Bush is a sick fuck ( he executed his own people also...) We should kill them both.

Haiti, Duvalier, what did the US do... Chile, Pinochet, Ouganda, etc...

Stop your poor excuse of liberation. This is not 2nd world war.

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta


You mean the tearfull report of Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubator... lol:)

Yeah, you know, the report from the daughter of an ambassador that wasn't even in Kuwait...


I stood in Kuwait you fucker. I saw the aftermath of what they did with my own eyes. Not on CNN. I talked to Kuwaiti people while holding an M16 on them for lack of distinction between Kuwaiti and Iraqi, face to face in the middle of nowhere surrounded by burning fucking vehicles, oil wells, and fucking bodies.
Don't tell me what those fuckers did and didn't do. I saw it. I don't care if you were watching Dan fucking Rather every night.

I was there. I saw it. I smelled it. I buried alot of it in the fucking desert with a fucking dozer.

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 05:12 PM

welcome to southern Iraq.... your room is right this way sir....

http://www.ampiezza.com/stuff/ds014.jpg

Amputate Your Head 03-16-2003 05:39 PM

there is so much more that Iraq has to offer that just that pic though.... obviously..

it's not ALL like that.

Let's see... there's snakes and scorpions that'll kill you instantly. (in plenty abundance) Hundreds of miles of rock and sand.... mostly rock. It's 130 in the daytime, and 34 at night. Nomads wandering around carrying weapons. Abandoned bunkers from chicken shit Iraqi "military" with boobytrapped cases of grenades.... Landmines everywhere..... (if you see a little red flag stuck in the ground, look to the opposite side and you should see another one marking the path.... that means our landmine sweep teams have cleared that section..... if you don't see the flags, better not move. Or you'll end up in 400 pieces.)

Iraqi soldiers eating wild dogs..... wild dogs eating pieces of burned corpses.....


Yeah.... Iraq is a fucking wonderland. They're made of chocolate kisses and big warm hugs. Everything ever said about them is made up lies to make them LOOK bad. The US is just plain evil and we love war.

I invite you to visit them sometime. I hear the fucking Marriot Bahgdad is nice.

AM Jeff 03-16-2003 05:54 PM

Amp,

Don't pay them no mind.
They are intelligent enough to understand.

Anyway..for the rest who don't have a clue.

The Bomb that Iraq handed over to the U.N. Inspectors was the same fucking day they found the illegal drone.

Nah..Iraq claims they have no chemical or biological weapons.
Maybe they forgot where they buried it. Just like the warhead that mysterisly appeared the same day the drone was found. Maybe they fogot about that?

Yeah, nevermind that Saddam has invaded Kuwait, aiming to take over their counrty.

Nevermind that he has murdered and gassed his own people.

The last 30 years, look at how many wars Iraq has been in.
All they know is war.

Nevermind the fact that Iraq over the last 12 years has had santions against them.



The reason they HAD sanctions placed against them is because they are an agressive country. Known to attack its nieghbors, as well its own people. They DO possess Chemical and Biological weapons. As stated when the Inspectors were in there last time.


My question to you is, for all who think, "It's about the oil".

If iraq is clean of these WMD. Why won't they tell anyone and show PROOF that they have destroyed them?

I dunno much about Mustard gas, but VX and the nastiest shit ever made. Would you feel comfortable living somewhere over there and knowing the agression that a country close by, hold thousands of tons of Anthrax, VX and god knows whatever shit they got?

Yeah..I'd have a major problem if we were going over there..just to fucking blow them up for kicks.

As for as, the U.S. minding our own business?

Doesn't everyone in this world have a god giving right to be free and live life without fear?

I'm sorry...but Saddam brought this upon himself.
Time to go in and smoke him too, "out of his hole". He'll be hiding in.

I wished we would have gotten rid of him 12 years ago. But it didn't happen. Clinton didn't do shit cuz we was too busy trying to get laid.


Sorry...but it's time.
Saddam needs to go.

AM Jeff 03-16-2003 05:58 PM

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I invite you to visit them sometime. I hear the fucking Marriot Bahgdad is nice.
Lmao...

:thumbsup

ChrisH 03-16-2003 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
It is people like you who decide it. Its people like you put Bush in his president chair.
A president has to do what his people wish. He represents his people.

Are you from the US?

ChrisH 03-16-2003 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta


restitution of settlement colonized by Israel, UN securitu forces to enforce negotiated borders of Israel - Palestine...
That would be a first step.

2nd step: stop aggravating and humilating other nations, religions, etc....

But your way will create a new "Hezbollah" in Iraq, new terrorists.


No point anyway to discuss, the dices are thwon and the only thing they will tell us is the date....

Yeah... and ICBM's in Europe will cause WWIII.

But it didn't!! And as a matter of FACT help lead to the end of the USSR.

However, if it was done your way Europe would still be under constant threat of attack.

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