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|  03-15-2015, 03:54 PM | #1 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2011 
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				Fighting Chargebacks effectively, any tips?
			 Guys, Looking for some tips on how to fight chargebacks effectively. Getting started on the first cases: # Example case - Customer claims his purchase is fraudulent whilst having logged in to the members area on multiple occasions downloading over 6300mb of content. The IP address is an exact match to his geographical location. The customer never contacted the customer support to resolve the case and went straight for a chargeback. Think have a pretty good case against the member, anyone got any tips? PS: Feel free to spam any chargeback related services. Would like to know more about them. Thanks in advance  | 
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|  03-15-2015, 04:03 PM | #2 | 
| StraightBro Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA 
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				 | You mean mitigating them in the first place Or once you get the rare chargeback, trying to fight the chargeback? | 
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|  03-15-2015, 04:07 PM | #3 | 
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|  03-15-2015, 04:15 PM | #4 | 
| StraightBro Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA 
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				 | Have you posted on his Facebook or Twitter yet demanding payment? J/K I'm sure a service will chime in saying they have a good track record for fighting chargebacks. You deal in high risk digital goods. Send all documentation in an easy to read condensed format. You can also directly contact the consumer in a professional non threatening way. Consumers who CB to often do get blacklisted. | 
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|  03-15-2015, 04:31 PM | #5 | 
| Let's do some business! Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX 
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				 | I can put you in touch with a service that specializes in this. I'll be around all day tomorrow. Feel free to ICQ me or email me your Skype and I'll be in touch. 
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|  03-15-2015, 06:45 PM | #6 | ||
| feeding the wolves Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: between sand and stars in Jamaica 
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 the bank and the cc company sided with me though, and the cb was reversed. 
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|  03-15-2015, 06:46 PM | #7 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 
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|  03-15-2015, 06:51 PM | #8 | 
| Grrrrrrrrr Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dreamland 
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				 | Contact me when you have a couple charge backs - let me have a crack at them. =) Mine are much different than yours I'm sure, but collections are collections when it comes down to it.  If all goes well then you can just pay per charge back collected and pass that fee on to the customer. You can get me on skype, makeabuck | 
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|  03-15-2015, 10:37 PM | #9 | |
| Registered User Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2011 
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 Please know that I am not an attorney, but am employed by a company which focuses on recovering monies for the merchants after the chargeback dispute has been lost. The most important step you should take, is to file the dispute with the bank and provide as much evidence as you can. During this time consider sending the consumer a well written letter by post. Demand that they withdraw the chargeback claim, or else you will exercise your right to file a theft/fraud report with police local to him/her, and provide the police the evidence you have. You can explain that these steps are being taken, as part of your intent to file a complaint in court and/or have a debt collector recover the funds plus costs. If you are interested in a professional service to step in, then consider registering with us. There are no upfront costs. Everything is managed on a No Recovery - No Fee business model. I hope the little bit of advice helps you.  Sabrina F. 
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|  03-15-2015, 10:44 PM | #10 | |||
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 Are you suggested a personal visit to the consumer MakeMeGrrrrowl? 
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|  03-16-2015, 07:03 AM | #11 | 
| Let's do some business! Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX 
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				 | I'm not familiar with your company, but feel free to contact me and we can open a dialogue. 
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|  03-16-2015, 07:57 AM | #12 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: O H I O 
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				 | AlexFS, ChargebackHelp can assist you with preventing CB's and fighting both domestic and offshore chargebacks. | 
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|  03-16-2015, 07:57 AM | #13 | 
| Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin 
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				 | If you are with CCBIll or Epoch then let them handle it, or not, either way.  If you have a private MID then take a screenshot of: 1) The gateway page showing a positive AVS response (if you don't have that don't bother) 2) Login log showing there was a login for that user where the IP matched the CC submit IP. 3) Any other onsite activity logs you may have showing the member browsed pages, downloaded content, etc. Print it all, and fax it to the appropriate phone # with the chargeback paperwork you got in the mail outlining the dispute, along with a written, legible explanation why you feel the chargeback is unjustified. (stick to the facts and be brief) With that you got about a 40% chance of getting the dispute overturned, in my experience, there doesn't seem to be any silver bullet for online merchants dealing in virtual goods, and, even if you win, you are still out the CB fees that your processor will hit you with and you still got the dispute on your record, so if the amount is small you may find it's not worth your time depending how busy you are, I generally do. 
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|  03-16-2015, 08:07 AM | #14 | 
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|  03-16-2015, 11:28 AM | #15 | 
| It's 42 Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global 
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				 | Verified By VISA MasterCard SecureCode The buyer authenticates. The seller is not liable for chargeback except in product disputes. More and more Internet sellers are using these services especially for first time buyers. | 
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|  03-16-2015, 11:40 AM | #16 | |
| Grrrrrrrrr Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dreamland 
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  But no - I was a bill collector for quite some time before my splash into adult entertainment, as was one of my managers who is the one who does all of my collecting. Before my husband was a SAHD he was a bill collector working for my ex who runs a collection agency. Sure we may not follow all of the practices of the FDCPA - but shit gets done =) | |
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|  03-16-2015, 11:43 AM | #17 | |
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