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  • MCFan
    CEO
    • Feb 2011
    • 130

    #1

    It looks like I got screwed, what should I do

    I'm sure that's not the first time things like this happen so maybe you guys can tell me how should I proceed. So:

    - following my thread about a marketing guy needed i got contacted by several people
    - one of them is an old member of this forum and e showed extensive knowledge on the subject
    - he made me an interesting offer, i checked his name and company and found nothing wrong so, based on the invoice he sent me, I paid him some money (half of the first month fee for development and marketing)
    - after two weeks it seems he is not going to execute the services or to return the money (he didn't event sent me the detailed plan to agree on)

    How should I proceed in order to get my money back? Besides writing his name public and preventing others from being scammed also, is there any legal action I might take? It looks like fraud to me...


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  • PornDiscounts-R
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    • Aug 2006
    • 1272

    #2
    Sorry to hear that. Sucks when it happen. Legal action for two weeks pay. Nope!
    Not worth it. Public mention is probably your best bet. Won`t get you the money back but at least you can tell your story and so can he. Then others can make up their own mind.

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    • brassmonkey
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      • Sep 2005
      • 77396

      #3
      the hardlinks guy? post his nick!
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      • CaptainHowdy
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        • Dec 2004
        • 94727

        #4
        Spill the beans ...

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          • L-Pink
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            • Mar 2005
            • 39151

            #6
            Expose him!




            .

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            • Itchy
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              • Jan 2001
              • 6525

              #7
              Originally posted by L-Pink
              Expose him!




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              • Bladewire
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                • Aug 2003
                • 56228

                #8










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                • NaughtyRob
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                  • Nov 2004
                  • 29602

                  #9
                  Damn, expose him. It might have been a scamming fake nick.
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                  • AdultKing
                    Raise Your Weapon
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 15601

                    #10
                    Name them, this thread is useless without a name. What's their nick ?

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                    • MassMarketing
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                      • Jun 2014
                      • 597

                      #11
                      Why even post if your not going to name the person? Help the people of gfy out by naming scammers.
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                      • webgurl
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 7954

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bladewire








                        omg lol so friggen funny

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                        • ~Ray
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 18361

                          #13
                          Letting us know who he/she is will help us avoid your pitfall
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                          • MiamiBoyz
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                            • Oct 2012
                            • 6690

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ~Ray
                            Letting us know who he/she is will help us avoid your pitfall
                            Not ONLY THAT but you might find that you are NOT the first or ONLY one who has been taken advantage of and be able to more effectively fight for justice!

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                            • L-Pink
                              working on my tan
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 39151

                              #15
                              Well ............. Out the fucker.

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                              • mstyanda
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                                • Jan 2013
                                • 247

                                #16
                                Expose them. I know I personally do a search for every person before I do business with them on GFY. I avoid business with people that have mention of customer service issues (if they seem legit) . I also avoid doing business with people that carry themselves in a typically unprofessional way on the forums. So by sharing the info you could at least keep the next person from getting scammed and hopefully the next person will do the same in turn.

                                Doing research I think has mostly made my business dealings here pleasant. Only issues I have had was someone who took many many many months to deliver a custom shoot deal and one other bulk picture deal I purchased that was beyond crappy content that I still haven't gotten my licenses for and 1 FB account issue that while unpleasant was refunded. So 2 not great experiences out of literally probably thousands of business deals is a pretty good average based on people sharing good and bad info about dealings on here.
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                                • PaperstreetWinston
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                                  #17
                                  That sucks
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                                  • MiamiBoyz
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                                    • Oct 2012
                                    • 6690

                                    #18
                                    Don't be shy...everyone is an adult here!

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                                    • MCFan
                                      CEO
                                      • Feb 2011
                                      • 130

                                      #19
                                      I paid by credit card.

                                      And I'm waiting a few more days before exposing the guy ... he did finally answered me and I hope he will prove not to be a scammer after all ...


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                                      • Deej
                                        I make pixels work
                                        • Jun 2005
                                        • 24386

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MCFan
                                        I paid by credit card.

                                        And I'm waiting a few more days before exposing the guy ... he did finally answered me and I hope he will prove not to be a scammer after all ...
                                        Well if it remains sour then you are obligated by GFY rules to out him. As you said, you did your GFY check and found nothing wrong.

                                        If you get screwed you need to set that precedent so others don't fall victim as you did in the future.

                                        I get that not naming someone keeps a level of integrity intact but if you get scammed you owe no such respect towards said scammer.

                                        Everyone remember this thread in a week.

                                        Also... even if you prematurely out them... it may just align their bullshit and encourage them to follow up on your agreement and deter future mishaps for you and others.

                                        GFY is often fun and games but its still very useful in keeping people on the up n up.

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                                        • candyflip
                                          Carpe Visio
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 43069

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MCFan
                                          I paid by credit card.
                                          Do a chargeback then. Sucks, but you've at least got a chance of getting your money back.

                                          Spend you some brain.
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                                          • slapass
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 14625

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by MCFan
                                            I paid by credit card.

                                            And I'm waiting a few more days before exposing the guy ... he did finally answered me and I hope he will prove not to be a scammer after all ...
                                            Ask for your money back. The relationship is soured and neither of you will be happy with the results.

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                                            • DBS.US
                                              Geo Cities
                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 11843

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Bladewire








                                              Nobody does shit around here when they get ripped off that's why the scammers come here to feed.
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                                              • selena
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                                                • Aug 2004
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MCFan
                                                I paid by credit card.
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                                                • Best-In-BC
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                                                  #25
                                                  No one is obligated to say shit.
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                                                  • Deej
                                                    I make pixels work
                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                    • 24386

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                                                    No one is obligated to say shit.
                                                    well not really... but morally... I'd like to think so.

                                                    No shame in being ripped off. You trust people. But when wronged I think the correct retribution is to make their methods known.

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                                                    • OneHungLo
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 40906

                                                      #27
                                                      Did they post in your thread looking for a marketing guy?

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                                                      • TrainWreckContent
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                                                        #28
                                                        hope you get it all worked out!

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                                                        • Harmon
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                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 20012

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                                          Did they post in your thread looking for a marketing guy?
                                                          If this is the one about the social media... ?
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                                                          • CPA-Rush
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                                                            • Mar 2012
                                                            • 4927

                                                            #30
                                                            can't keep secrets


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                                                            • seeandsee
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                                                              #31
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                                                              • MassMarketing
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                                                                #32
                                                                Any updates?
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                                                                • OneHungLo
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                  • 40906

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Harmon
                                                                  If this is the one about the social media... ?
                                                                  From this thread. There's a post from an old member and it's a 'he' but I'd be surprised if it was him

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                                                                  • freecartoonporn
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                                                                    • Jan 2012
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                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • _Richard_
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                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                      • 30991

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                                                      From this thread. There's a post from an old member and it's a 'he' but I'd be surprised if it was him
                                                                      he posted in this thread about it, and asked to do the job again

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                                                                      • OneHungLo
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 40906

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by _Richard_
                                                                        he posted in this thread about it, and asked to do the job again
                                                                        Oh fuck my bad! Like i said i would be surprised he's been around forever and i've never heard one bad thing.

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                                                                        • michael.kickass
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                                                                          • Mar 2009
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Bladewire





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                                                                          • MCFan
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                                                                            • Feb 2011
                                                                            • 130

                                                                            #38
                                                                            You were right guys ... he's just trying to delay me as long as possible. He promised the plan will be sent no later than ... yesterday

                                                                            So I have to accept I was scammed and I'm not as smart as I thought ...

                                                                            His name Brandon Kagey, he's company is ScriptWorkz Ltd, now inactive it seems (Brandon Kagey - Previous Managing Member for Scriptworkz, LLC), his e-mail is [email protected] and the GFY user is also ScriptWorkz.

                                                                            I opened the dispute today, but I feed worse about getting fooled than about 1500$. You think I should also report him to US authorities for fraud? Just to make sure he won't do this with others in the future?


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                                                                            • epitome
                                                                              So Fucking Lame
                                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                                              • 12156

                                                                              #39
                                                                              US authorities are not going to care about some guy in Romania getting scammed out of $1,500 for an adult project.

                                                                              $15,000,000 might get their attention.

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                                                                              • timmyc38
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Apr 2007
                                                                                • 603

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by MCFan
                                                                                I'm sure that's not the first time things like this happen so maybe you guys can tell me how should I proceed. So:

                                                                                - following my thread about a marketing guy needed i got contacted by several people
                                                                                - one of them is an old member of this forum and e showed extensive knowledge on the subject
                                                                                - he made me an interesting offer, i checked his name and company and found nothing wrong so, based on the invoice he sent me, I paid him some money (half of the first month fee for development and marketing)
                                                                                - after two weeks it seems he is not going to execute the services or to return the money (he didn't event sent me the detailed plan to agree on)

                                                                                How should I proceed in order to get my money back? Besides writing his name public and preventing others from being scammed also, is there any legal action I might take? It looks like fraud to me...
                                                                                people get screwed all the time man - I believe we chatted on skype about this position - should have picked me !
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                                                                                • CPA-Rush
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                                                                                  • Mar 2012
                                                                                  • 4927

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by timmyc38
                                                                                  people get screwed all the time man - I believe we chatted on skype about this position - should have picked me !
                                                                                  so true

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                                                                                  • mstyanda
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                                                                                    • Jan 2013
                                                                                    • 247

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I realize my dealings here are probably small fries compared to some but is it normal for $1500.00 to be paid up front for work? I mean my web designer only requires a 50% deposit. My SEO company I tried out several smaller projects before hiring them full time. Perhaps I am naive as to what kind of projects are arranged here. I can't think of a single thing I would need done I would send some one 1500 bucks upfront I have never done business with before. Especially not on paypal which may or may not properly protect me as the purchaser. Not that 1500 bucks is actually much money in the grand scheme of things I just hate the idea of anyone getting my money undeserved. Hell I am paranoid over purchases that are just a couple hundred bucks, lol.
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                                                                                    • MCFan
                                                                                      CEO
                                                                                      • Feb 2011
                                                                                      • 130

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      The scam was a professional one as credit card company told me today, the account where money were received is on another name, probably fake: Eric Frye


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                                                                                      • suesheboy
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                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                        • 5211

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by MCFan
                                                                                        You were right guys ... he's just trying to delay me as long as possible. He promised the plan will be sent no later than ... yesterday

                                                                                        So I have to accept I was scammed and I'm not as smart as I thought ...

                                                                                        His name Brandon Kagey, he's company is ScriptWorkz Ltd, now inactive it seems (Brandon Kagey - Previous Managing Member for Scriptworkz, LLC), his e-mail is [email protected] and the GFY user is also ScriptWorkz.

                                                                                        I opened the dispute today, but I feed worse about getting fooled than about 1500$. You think I should also report him to US authorities for fraud? Just to make sure he won't do this with others in the future?
                                                                                        Did business with the guy last year. He was local and I was going to give the deposit in person. He did the job fairly quickly so I was able to pay for the entire job ($1,000) at the end. About 5% of the work was not finished but by that point I was able to do a better job and finish it myself.

                                                                                        By miracle this thread came up. I am going to a meeting today to spec out the next job I was going to to throw at him for make me an Ap next week. Wow I dodged a bullet.
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                                                                                        • ravo
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                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 5461

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by MCFan
                                                                                          You were right guys ... he's just trying to delay me as long as possible. He promised the plan will be sent no later than ... yesterday

                                                                                          So I have to accept I was scammed and I'm not as smart as I thought ...

                                                                                          His name Brandon Kagey, he's company is ScriptWorkz Ltd, now inactive it seems (Brandon Kagey - Previous Managing Member for Scriptworkz, LLC), his e-mail is [email protected] and the GFY user is also ScriptWorkz.

                                                                                          I opened the dispute today, but I feed worse about getting fooled than about 1500$. You think I should also report him to US authorities for fraud? Just to make sure he won't do this with others in the future?
                                                                                          Wow. I've had this guy do a couple of small jobs for me as well. Always delivered what I wanted without any issues. Too bad he's started scamming now. I was ready to give him more work...
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                                                                                          • Major (Tom)
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                                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                                            • 32492

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Links pulled!!

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                                                                                            • happyending
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                                                                                              • Feb 2013
                                                                                              • 137

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              done

                                                                                              Charge back and you outed whoever it was done.

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                                                                                              • Harmon
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                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                • 20012

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by happyending
                                                                                                Charge back and you outed whoever it was done.
                                                                                                Did you even bother reading the thread?
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                                                                                                • Harmon
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                  • 20012

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  http://gfy.com/members/scriptworkz/
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                                                                                                  • carpocratian
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                                                                                                    • Jun 2014
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by mstyanda
                                                                                                    I realize my dealings here are probably small fries compared to some but is it normal for $1500.00 to be paid up front for work? I mean my web designer only requires a 50% deposit. My SEO company I tried out several smaller projects before hiring them full time. Perhaps I am naive as to what kind of projects are arranged here. I can't think of a single thing I would need done I would send some one 1500 bucks upfront I have never done business with before.
                                                                                                    I don't charge clients upfront money unless it's going to take a long time to complete the project.

                                                                                                    Then again, I don't take on projects without doing a formal contract, checking out the client thoroughly (I need real names, not screen nicks), talking to the client on the phone about the scope and particulars of the project, and doing other basic business due-diligence. I never rely on the "good will gentlemen's handshake" method of doing business deals.

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