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  • Far-L
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2002
    • 6065

    #31
    My dog was bit at the dog park by another dog.

    To this day if that dog is at the park then my dog is frightened by it still. If the biter is not there then mine is good to go and has a blast. Even if it is the smell of the other dog that causes her the stress that is still based on episodic memory of an event, specific to that dog, not to the place, or the other animals present.

    Also, whenever we drive within several miles of the dog boarding place that is five acres of doggie Disneyland then they get excited. Yes, they can smell that they are getting close, but they certainly appear to have a memory of that smell.

    Self awareness in mirrors may have no relative value because dogs don't have the same perception of ego/self but that doesn't at all mean that they don't have episodic memory.

    Balderdash. Another scientist that can't see the forest for the trees because of their educational disciplines.
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    • carpocratian
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      • Jun 2014
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      #32
      Nonsense.

      This strikes me as an attempt to try to come up with a very specific definition of cognition that ultimately leads to the conclusion that human mental processes are leaps and bounds beyond those of other animals. It's an argument made to support a pre-determined conclusion.

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      • baddog
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 107089

        #33
        I tried to read this entire thread but I could feel my brain getting ready to implode over some of the commentary.


        Originally posted by blackmonsters
        So is the dog thinking ahead that he will be able to smell and find the food tomorrow?
        Or is he just burying it because like WTF?

        I take it you have never seen a nature program or you think dogs are different than every other creature on the planet.

        Originally posted by blackmonsters
        What about squirrels, do they remember what tree hole they put the nuts in or do they
        sniff it out like a dog?


        Actually, depending on the breed(?) of squirrel, losing a few of the nuts is what causes new trees.

        Different Methods of Food Storage

        Different types of squirrels practice different food storage methods. Douglas squirrels and North American red squirrels store food in a central location, called a midden, within their territory. This method is called larder-hoarding. Often the midden is located in a tree cavity, under leaves, or in branch forks. Some squirrels store their food for a short period of time, such as the African tree squirrel, which will stick half eaten nuts in branches to come back for a few hours later. The most common way squirrels store their food is by burying it in scattered caches around their territory to dig up later when food is scarce, such as in winter. This way is usually favorable because it makes it harder for other animals or squirrels to pilfer their reserves as it's scattered in many different locations.
        Detecting Caches by Smell

        It was previously assumed that squirrels did not remember where they stored food, but rather uncovered it through scent. Squirrels do use smell partly to uncover buried caches, and they often find and steal at least a nut or two from other squirrels' caches, which they can detect by the odor. Scent can prove unreliable, however. When the ground is too dry or covered in snow, squirrels are more interested in digging up their own food caches even when they can smell other caches nearby.
        Detecting Caches by Spatial Memory

        According to the study "Grey Squirrels Remember the Locations of Buried Nuts," published in Princeton University's journal "Animal Behavior," squirrels use spatial memory often to locate stored food. The study shows squirrels go back more often to their own food caches than to the caches of other squirrels, suggesting that they use memory to locate their food. Squirrels often bury their food near landmarks that aid them in remembering where they stored the food. The study also suggests that squirrels bury food in a series of locations that help them form a cognitive map of all storage locations.
        Originally posted by AdultKing
        This is all theoretical bullshit.

        My dog goes fucking ballistic if she sees another dog on the tv, through the window, driving past one in a car, yet seeing herself on the tv in home videos or walking past the many mirrors in this house doesn't do a thing.
        My dog reacts to bears on TV; and wolf howls

        Originally posted by blackmonsters
        " Dogs don't plan for particular future events"

        Yep, that's why my grand daddy told me to crawl under the house and
        give the dog some water, because she just happen to wonder under the house where
        she never goes and then bam! some puppies popped out.

        And stupid squirrels building nest without any expectation of tree sex.

        Okay then

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        • izombie
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          • Sep 2013
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          #34
          Fuck Psychology Today I want to know what the Dog Whisperer has to say about this.
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          • Far-L
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            • Feb 2002
            • 6065

            #35
            Originally posted by izombie
            Fuck Psychology Today I want to know what the Dog Whisperer has to say about this.
            Dig him up and ask his zombie corpse.
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            • CurrentlySober
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              • Aug 2002
              • 38938

              #36
              i like dog poo


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              • _Richard_
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2006
                • 30991

                #37
                bs.. a dog 'waiting at a masters grave' would be an episodic memory, and thats not getting into the ability to remember where food sources is, relations of 'bangs' to being afraid of fireworks, relations of 'being afraid of a raised hand' etc

                to even say episodic memory is unique to humans is simplistic at best, as other great apes wouldn't 'be human' and they have the same abilities

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                • blackmonsters
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                  • Nov 2002
                  • 20960

                  #38
                  Originally posted by baddog
                  I tried to read this entire thread but I could feel my brain getting ready to implode over some of the commentary.




                  I take it you have never seen a nature program or you think dogs are different than every other creature on the planet.




                  Actually, depending on the breed(?) of squirrel, losing a few of the nuts is what causes new trees.





                  My dog reacts to bears on TV; and wolf howls



                  Okay then
                  Bottom line : You're retarded.

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                  • tony286
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                    • Aug 2002
                    • 57021

                    #39
                    I dont know but my pit mix would come in my office and stare at me at 5pm every day because it was dinner time.It was weird like she could tell time. I think they live in the moment but I think they remember.

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                    • PR_Glen
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                      • Oct 2006
                      • 9058

                      #40
                      Originally posted by bronco67
                      It's actually more like 10,000 to 100,000 -- which is almost unfathomable. When I cook bacon, I don't even know how my dog holds his shit together.

                      Dogs have shit vision, and their world is experienced through the nostrils.
                      why are you ALWAYS wrong?

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                      • L-Pink
                        working on my tan
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 39151

                        #41
                        Originally posted by tony286
                        I dont know but my pit mix would come in my office and stare at me at 5pm every day because it was dinner time.It was weird like she could tell time. I think they live in the moment but I think they remember.
                        Mine would do the exact same thing every night at 7. I couldn't figure out if she knew the time or heard the beginning of Two And A Half Men and reacted to the theme song. Either way her memory said time to eat..

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                        • tony286
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 57021

                          #42
                          Originally posted by PR_Glen
                          Thats a small group. Most dogs smell is their primary sense and its amazing.

                          NOVA | Dogs' Dazzling Sense of Smell

                          "OLYMPIC SNIFFERS
                          Dogs' sense of smell overpowers our own by orders of magnitude?it's 10,000 to 100,000 times as acute, scientists say. "Let's suppose they're just 10,000 times better," says James Walker, former director of the Sensory Research Institute at Florida State University, who, with several colleagues, came up with that jaw-dropping estimate during a rigorously designed, oft-cited study. "If you make the analogy to vision, what you and I can see at a third of a mile, a dog could see more than 3,000 miles away and still see as well."


                          Put another way, dogs can detect some odors in parts per trillion. What does that mean in terms we might understand? Well, in her book Inside of a Dog, Alexandra Horowitz, a dog-cognition researcher at Barnard College, writes that while we might notice if our coffee has had a teaspoon of sugar added to it, a dog could detect a teaspoon of sugar in a million gallons of water, or two Olympic-sized pools worth. Another dog scientist likened their ability to catching a whiff of one rotten apple in two million barrels."

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                          • scarlettcontent
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                            • Mar 2006
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                            #43
                            interesting stuff


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                            • dyna mo
                              just a fucking jerk
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 68184

                              #44
                              psycho babble baloney as applied to canines.

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                              • just a punk
                                So fuckin' bored
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 32393

                                #45
                                Originally posted by bronco67
                                He doesn't think about it, because like INSTINCT.
                                Any instinct needs abilities to be implemented. A dog needs paws to dig and jaws to hold a bone, he needs a memory to remember where to search for it tomorrow etc.
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