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  • TCLGirls
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2010
    • 3068
    #1

    Why Trump lost in Iowa...

    ...according to exit polling:

    "As predicted, Trump performed best among voters with a high-school education or lower. But those voters represented only 16% of the electorate on Monday. Voters who had any education beyond high school â?? 84% of the electorate â?? mostly broke for Rubio and Cruz over Trump."

    Here's why Donald Trump suffered a stunning Iowa upset when the polls suggested he'd win - Yahoo Finance
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    • nico-t
      emperor of my world
      • Aug 2004
      • 29901
      #2
      So that means people with a higher education are actually dumber.

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        • SBJ
          So Fucking Fabulous
          • Apr 2003
          • 11377
          #3
          ... and I thought he lost cause less people voted for him.

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            • TCLGirls
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2010
              • 3068
              #4
              Originally posted by SBJ
              ... and I thought he lost cause less people voted for him.
              That's what the article said, implying that there aren't enough low-educated people in Iowa.

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                • SuckOnThis
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 6844
                  #5

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                    • SBJ
                      So Fucking Fabulous
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 11377
                      #6
                      Originally posted by TCLGirls
                      That's what the article said, implying that there aren't enough low-educated people in Iowa.
                      Thanks Obama! You learned us Americans to good and now Trump can't win.

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                        • TCLGirls
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 3068
                          #7
                          Originally posted by SBJ
                          Thanks Obama! You learned us Americans to good and now Trump can't win.
                          Well the large crowds he draws indicates otherwise...if the majority of them are legitimate supporters who will actually vote in primaries, which I doubt.

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                            • EddyTheDog
                              Just Doing My Own Thing
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 25450
                              #8
                              A lot of people talk the talk but when it comes down to it they back down and vote for the safer option - It's secret ballot remember. I bet if you did a poll asking who peopled voted for Trump would still come out on top..
                              Yay - I found the edit sig option!..

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                                • BIGTYMER
                                  Junior Achiever
                                  • Nov 2004
                                  • 17066
                                  #9
                                  Shouldn't have skipped that debate..

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                                    • Robbie
                                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 20960
                                      #10
                                      RIP Candidate Trump.

                                      Now let's get busy electing another bureaucrat who is owned by big corporations. I'm so glad that all this silliness is over! Long live the establishment!
                                      -Robbie
                                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                        • EddyTheDog
                                          Just Doing My Own Thing
                                          • Jan 2011
                                          • 25450
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                          RIP Candidate Trump.

                                          Now let's get busy electing another bureaucrat who is owned by big corporations. I'm so glad that all this silliness is over! Long live the establishment!

                                          lol - Trump is the big corporations - He can't lose, even if he doesn't get the nomination...
                                          Yay - I found the edit sig option!..

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                                            • Robbie
                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 20960
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                                              lol - Trump is the big corporations - He can't lose, even if he doesn't get the nomination...
                                              Yes, Trump is the big corporations!

                                              And you can see that him contributing money to candidates to be able to get things expedited locally so he can get things done quicker when building a new resort or golf course is DEFINITELY the same as Big Pharma lobbying the govt. to keep our prescription drugs artificially jacked up in price. Or the Military Industrial Complex making sure that billions and billions are spent on "defense" and that we keep getting into wars to keep the gravy train flowing. Or any of the other giant lobbyists who regularly get what they want from the crooks in Washington D.C.

                                              Goodbye Donald Trump. You have lost Iowa. You are now finished.

                                              Well, at least the news anchors on CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC are happy and gloating. They were all practically GLOWING last night at the news that Trump was second (in a field of 11)
                                              And this morning on CNN they were actually mocking him.
                                              So that's great news! The media is happy!

                                              The media is elated, the establishment is happy, and the big corporate donors are happy!

                                              Great day for America!
                                              -Robbie
                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                • Sednub997
                                                  Naked in my bathroom
                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                  • 6175
                                                  #13
                                                  Yeh young voters can make a hige difference



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                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                      Too old to care
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 52942
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Robbie
                                                      RIP Candidate Trump.

                                                      Now let's get busy electing another bureaucrat who is owned by big corporations. I'm so glad that all this silliness is over! Long live the establishment!
                                                      So going direct to the big corporations is a more direct route and saves on paperwork.

                                                      If we want change, we have to change ourselves. This requires voting for people who are not controlled by big corporations donating the money to run huge campaigns.

                                                      Now think back to who you supported in 2012, 2008, 2004. Was it a candidate owned by big corporations?

                                                      The last President that was tapped into big money was Bush.



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                                                        • Tubthumper
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                                                          • Oct 2015
                                                          • 203
                                                          #15
                                                          The REAL reason Trump lost Iowa.

                                                          Iowa Republican Caucus Exit Poll - Election 2016 - CBS News

                                                          Which ONE of these four candidate qualities mattered most in deciding whom to support today? (CHECK ONLY ONE)

                                                          Can win in November (21%)
                                                          Shares my values (42%)
                                                          Tells it like it is (14%)
                                                          Can bring needed change (21%)

                                                          He pretty much lost due to people with an ultra-social conservative stance. That is Iowa always picking unelectable candidates.

                                                          There is good news however...

                                                          On most political matters, do you consider yourself:

                                                          Moderate: Trump 35%, Cruz 9%, Rubio 26%
                                                          Conservative: Trump 23%, Cruz 30%, Rubio 22%

                                                          Trump is the overwhelming favorite of moderate voters, besting Rubio too. Which is good for future states (see huge NH lead).
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                                                            • Robbie
                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 20960
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                              If we want change, we have to change ourselves. .
                                                              There is no "we" Paul. You live in Europe and are not an American citizen.
                                                              -Robbie
                                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                • Joshua G
                                                                  dumb libs love censorship
                                                                  • Jul 2008
                                                                  • 8198
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Tubthumper
                                                                  The REAL reason Trump lost Iowa.

                                                                  Iowa Republican Caucus Exit Poll - Election 2016 - CBS News

                                                                  Which ONE of these four candidate qualities mattered most in deciding whom to support today? (CHECK ONLY ONE)

                                                                  Can win in November (21%)
                                                                  Shares my values (42%)
                                                                  Tells it like it is (14%)
                                                                  Can bring needed change (21%)

                                                                  He pretty much lost due to people with an ultra-social conservative stance. That is Iowa always picking unelectable candidates.

                                                                  There is good news however...

                                                                  On most political matters, do you consider yourself:

                                                                  Moderate: Trump 35%, Cruz 9%, Rubio 26%
                                                                  Conservative: Trump 23%, Cruz 30%, Rubio 22%

                                                                  Trump is the overwhelming favorite of moderate voters, besting Rubio too. Which is good for future states (see huge NH lead).
                                                                  excuse me sir but the left wing libby lib libs need to vent some steam, if just for 1 day, for that is all they will get. So dont pester them with un-skewed data they wont comprehend.

                                                                  the trump hate is so thick, i openly wonder if his election will lead to riots. serious.

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                                                                    • crockett
                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 76818
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                      RIP Candidate Trump.

                                                                      Now let's get busy electing another bureaucrat who is owned by big corporations. I'm so glad that all this silliness is over! Long live the establishment!
                                                                      Reality has finally set in on Robbie. The candidate he wasn't gonna vote for anyway isn't gonna win.

                                                                      Robbie has already said in the past he wasn't voting for Trump but he still rah rahs him on anyway. Sort of a telling sign for Trump's support.. Lots of cheerleaders but no game winners.
                                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                        • beerptrol
                                                                          Confirmed Asshole
                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 12722
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I thought he lost because of the ultra conservative bible thumpers. Cruz and Rubio campaigned heavily and reached out to the religious conservatives. He'll do better in states who run their voting process like New Hampshire

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                                                                            • Dvae
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                              • 5326
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                              So going direct to the big corporations is a more direct route and saves on paperwork.

                                                                              If we want change, we have to change ourselves. This requires voting for people who are not controlled by big corporations donating the money to run huge campaigns.

                                                                              Now think back to who you supported in 2012, 2008, 2004. Was it a candidate owned by big corporations?

                                                                              The last President that was tapped into big money was Bush.
                                                                              Anybody that thinks theres that much difference between Bush and Obama when it comes to Banks and big corporate contributors is just misinformed. The only difference I see is Obama criticizes Wallstreet all the while taking their money.

                                                                              Bush Top Contributors, 2004 Cycle

                                                                              Morgan Stanley.......................$604,280
                                                                              Merrill Lynch...........................$558,804
                                                                              PricewaterhouseCoopers...........$508,500
                                                                              UBS AG..................................$442,325
                                                                              Goldman Sachs.......................$396,350
                                                                              Lehman Brothers......................$355,525
                                                                              US Government.......................$334,611
                                                                              Citigroup Inc ..........................$317,375
                                                                              MBNA Corp.............................$313,600
                                                                              Ernst & Young.........................$304,340
                                                                              Bear Stearns...........................$302,850
                                                                              Deloitte LLP.............................$293,050
                                                                              Credit Suisse Group.................$279,590
                                                                              Wachovia Corp.......................$273,760
                                                                              Bank of America .....................$258,361
                                                                              JPMorgan Chase & Co .............$228,005
                                                                              Blank Rome LLP.......................$225,150
                                                                              US Dept of State......................$220,280
                                                                              Ameriquest Capital..................$208,130
                                                                              Blue Cross/Blue Shield.............$199,075

                                                                              Obama Top Contributors, 2008 Cycle

                                                                              University of California.............$1,799,460
                                                                              Goldman Sachs.......................$1,034,615
                                                                              Harvard University...................$900,909
                                                                              Microsoft Corp.........................$854,717
                                                                              JPMorgan Chase & Co...............$847,895
                                                                              Google Inc .............................$817,855
                                                                              Citigroup Inc..........................$755,057
                                                                              US Government .....................$638,335
                                                                              Time Warner..........................$617,844
                                                                              Sidley Austin LLP....................$606,260
                                                                              Stanford University.................$603,866
                                                                              National Amusements Inc........$579,098
                                                                              Columbia University................$570,839
                                                                              Skadden, Arps et al................$554,439
                                                                              WilmerHale Llp.......................$554,373
                                                                              US Dept of Justice..................$540,636
                                                                              IBM Corp...............................$534,470
                                                                              UBS AG.................................$534,166
                                                                              General Electric.......................$532,031
                                                                              Morgan Stanley.......................$528,182
                                                                              .
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                                                                                • Rochard
                                                                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 75770
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Tubthumper

                                                                                  Which ONE of these four candidate qualities mattered most in deciding whom to support today? (CHECK ONLY ONE)

                                                                                  Can win in November (21%)
                                                                                  Shares my values (42%)
                                                                                  Tells it like it is (14%)
                                                                                  Can bring needed change (21%)
                                                                                  This is a huge part of the problem - Change. We all seem to want "change" and all politicians promise us "change". But nothing ever changes.

                                                                                  The United States Federal government is really too big to "change". A new president walks into the Oval Office, makes a handful of changes, and then it's business as usual. Then while they are going through the usual business, something comes and jabs them in the eye - Like the current problems with the Veterans Administration, or problems with the Secret Service, or a scandal in the military, or the DEA running an operation the White House didn't know about, or the Post Office going broke. Then there will be some serious drama, a mass shooting or terrorist attack, or a General in the military sharing government secrets with some chick he is banging. Then the President will spend the rest of his (or her?) time in office dealing with such problems while desperately trying to push a handful of ideas through (like Obamacare, big change!) while trying not to create new problems.

                                                                                  Name a president in our lifetime who walked into office, made great, sweeping changes, and then had no problems for the rest of their term? It's never happened. Why? Because our government is huge, is one of the largest employers in the country, and it's too large not to have problems.

                                                                                  At the same time, why do we need change? Trump wants to make our country great again. Really? Is our country not already great?
                                                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                    • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                      • Dec 2011
                                                                                      • 26730
                                                                                      #22
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                                                                                        • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                          It's 42
                                                                                          • Jun 2010
                                                                                          • 18083
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Excuses, excuses ...

                                                                                          New Hampshire is next week Trumpster may redeem himself yet.

                                                                                          If he fails to win more excuses?

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                                                                                            • Robbie
                                                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 20960
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              RIP The Candidacy Of Donald J. Trump.

                                                                                              The establishment has won. Trump gave it a good shot. But now it's all over. Goodbye Trump, we hardly knew ye.
                                                                                              -Robbie
                                                                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                • Robbie
                                                                                                  Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                  • 20960
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                  Reality has finally set in on Robbie. The candidate he wasn't gonna vote for anyway isn't gonna win.

                                                                                                  Robbie has already said in the past he wasn't voting for Trump but he still rah rahs him on anyway. Sort of a telling sign for Trump's support.. Lots of cheerleaders but no game winners.
                                                                                                  crockett once again not addressing the topic...but attacking other people with his hatred and vitriol.

                                                                                                  Watch yourself crockett, you never know when EonBlue will come into this thread and rip you a new asshole like he did the other day.

                                                                                                  As for whom I'm voting for:
                                                                                                  Libertarian Gary Johnson launches presidential bid, lowers expectations - POLITICO
                                                                                                  -Robbie
                                                                                                  ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                      • 76818
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by SuckOnThis


                                                                                                      Isn't that the truth..
                                                                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                        • crockett
                                                                                                          in a van by the river
                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                          • 76818
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                                          crockett once again not addressing the topic...but attacking other people with his hatred and vitriol.

                                                                                                          Watch yourself crockett, you never know when EonBlue will come into this thread and rip you a new asshole like he did the other day.

                                                                                                          As for whom I'm voting for:
                                                                                                          Libertarian Gary Johnson launches presidential bid, lowers expectations - POLITICO
                                                                                                          oh how cute.. Robbie the guy who kept bumping another topic whining about me.. suddenly think's it's out of line to troll him. Guess it's different and ok for Robbie to do but totally out of line when someone does it to him..

                                                                                                          Robbie Logic...

                                                                                                          oh and by the way.. The topic was about how Trump supporters who cheerlead for him but don't actually show up to vote for him.. You are a perfect example, so yes very much on topic.
                                                                                                          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                            • Robbie
                                                                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                              • 20960
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                              oh how cute.. Robbie the guy who kept bumping another topic whining about me.. suddenly think's it's out of line to troll him. Guess it's different and ok for Robbie to do but totally out of line when someone does it to him..

                                                                                                              Robbie Logic...

                                                                                                              oh and by the way.. The topic was about how Trump supporters who cheerlead for him but don't actually show up to vote for him.. You are a perfect example, so yes very much on topic.

                                                                                                              You are so dumb lol

                                                                                                              I have never said I was a Trump supporter. Matter of fact I've said over and over that I don't agree with building a Soviet Union style wall. And unless Trump suddenly says he is pro choice again and that he is going to stop the war on drugs and end obscenity laws against the adult industry AND pull our troops out of other countries...I would never support him.

                                                                                                              YOU are the one who keeps saying i suppoer him...not me.
                                                                                                              The only candidate in any party who espouses the beliefs I just posted is Gary Johnson.

                                                                                                              The only thing I've pointed out over and over is that Trump is a real threat to the establishment and business as usual in DC.

                                                                                                              You seem to LOVE the establishment and the status quo that has caused wars around the world, spying, 20 trillion dollars in debt, etc

                                                                                                              You are a pathetic excuse and nothing more than a low information fake liberal/sheep.

                                                                                                              PS: About that "other" thread you are crying about....the topic was about what an idiot you are. So I stayed on topic in that thread. Lol
                                                                                                              -Robbie
                                                                                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Robbie

                                                                                                                  You are so dumb lol

                                                                                                                  I have never said I was a Trump supporter. Matter of fact I've said over and over that I don't agree with building a Soviet Union style wall. And unless Trump suddenly says he is pro choice again and that he is going to stop the war on drugs and end obscenity laws against the adult industry AND pull our troops out of other countries...I would never support him.

                                                                                                                  YOU are the one who keeps saying i suppoer him...not me.
                                                                                                                  The only candidate in any party who espouses the beliefs I just posted is Gary Johnson.

                                                                                                                  The only thing I've pointed out over and over is that Trump is a real threat to the establishment and business as usual in DC.

                                                                                                                  You seem to LOVE the establishment and the status quo that has caused wars around the world, spying, 20 trillion dollars in debt, etc

                                                                                                                  You are a pathetic excuse and nothing more than a low information fake liberal/sheep.

                                                                                                                  PS: About that "other" thread you are crying about....the topic was about what an idiot you are. So I stayed on topic in that thread. Lol

                                                                                                                  Of course, how could anyone guess that Robbie doesn't support Trump, with your constant making excuses for him. I've lost count how many times you have sat here and argued with people over what Trump "really" means when he says the stupid shit he says. Robbie, the non supporter of Trump always knows the hidden messages that no one else knows but him..
                                                                                                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                    • Robbie
                                                                                                                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                      • 20960
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                      Of course, how could anyone guess that Robbie doesn't support Trump, with your constant making excuses for him. I've lost count how many times you have sat here and argued with people over what Trump "really" means when he says the stupid shit he says. Robbie, the non supporter of Trump always knows the hidden messages that no one else knows but him..
                                                                                                                      And there you go PROVING how dumb you are.

                                                                                                                      You are so out of touch with the people of your own country that it's breathtaking.
                                                                                                                      You seem to be a hate-filled, vitriolic, old man who fears any real change. You PRETEND to want "progressive" "change"...but when it actually is happening right in front of you...you run scared like an egg sucking dog.
                                                                                                                      Just like you did in that thread in which the actual topic was all about how ridiculous you are. (congrats on that by the way lol)

                                                                                                                      EonBlue stepped in their and beat you like a red-headed stepchild!
                                                                                                                      -Robbie
                                                                                                                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                                        • TCLGirls
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2010
                                                                                                                          • 3068
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                          Of course, how could anyone guess that Robbie doesn't support Trump, with your constant making excuses for him. I've lost count how many times you have sat here and argued with people over what Trump "really" means when he says the stupid shit he says. Robbie, the non supporter of Trump always knows the hidden messages that no one else knows but him..
                                                                                                                          When anyone posts any perceived or imagined slight against Trump, there's at least two "non-Trump supporters" who are quick to jump to Trump's defense. Kinda funny actually.

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                                                                                                                            • Robbie
                                                                                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                              • 20960
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by TCLGirls
                                                                                                                              When anyone posts any perceived or imagined slight against Trump, there's at least two "non-Trump supporters" who are quick to jump to Trump's defense. Kinda funny actually.
                                                                                                                              Because the shit you idiots post is nonsense. It's fun showing how ignorant and biased you clowns are.
                                                                                                                              -Robbie
                                                                                                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                                                • GregE
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 2704
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                  Of course, how could anyone guess that Robbie doesn't support Trump, with your constant making excuses for him. I've lost count how many times you have sat here and argued with people over what Trump "really" means when he says the stupid shit he says. Robbie, the non supporter of Trump always knows the hidden messages that no one else knows but him..
                                                                                                                                  You realize, or maybe you don't, that unlike Trump the folks running against him are in favor of off-shoring decent jobs (nearly all of his opponents support the TPP Treaty) and/or forcing rape victims to bear the rapists child (Rubio and a few others). Trump too has dropped some very, very strong hints that he's still in favor of single payer health care. Do you oppose that as well?

                                                                                                                                  He also has an effective sounding plan to force the reduction of pharmaceutical prices to the same level that the rest of the world pays. Pretty much the same plan that Sanders is touting actually.

                                                                                                                                  Indeed, on a whole lot of issues the only one to the left of Trump is Bernie Sanders.

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                                                                                                                                    • lock
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                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 5065
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      The campaign was vote for me i will be your dictator.
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                                                                                                                                        • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                          Too old to care
                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 52942
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                                                                          There is no "we" Paul. You live in Europe and are not an American citizen.
                                                                                                                                          I include the "we" because Europ is strolling into a disaster, led by the bureaucrats.

                                                                                                                                          But in the case of the US, yes you have to stop voting for the politicians owned or own a big corporation.

                                                                                                                                          How many time, in the last 6 elections, did you vote for that type of candidate?



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                                                                                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 52942
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Dvae
                                                                                                                                              Anybody that thinks theres that much difference between Bush and Obama when it comes to Banks and big corporate contributors is just misinformed. The only difference I see is Obama criticizes Wallstreet all the while taking their money.

                                                                                                                                              Bush Top Contributors, 2004 Cycle

                                                                                                                                              Morgan Stanley.......................$604,280
                                                                                                                                              Merrill Lynch...........................$558,804
                                                                                                                                              PricewaterhouseCoopers...........$508,500
                                                                                                                                              UBS AG..................................$442,325
                                                                                                                                              Goldman Sachs.......................$396,350
                                                                                                                                              Lehman Brothers......................$355,525
                                                                                                                                              US Government.......................$334,611
                                                                                                                                              Citigroup Inc ..........................$317,375
                                                                                                                                              MBNA Corp.............................$313,600
                                                                                                                                              Ernst & Young.........................$304,340
                                                                                                                                              Bear Stearns...........................$302,850
                                                                                                                                              Deloitte LLP.............................$293,050
                                                                                                                                              Credit Suisse Group.................$279,590
                                                                                                                                              Wachovia Corp.......................$273,760
                                                                                                                                              Bank of America .....................$258,361
                                                                                                                                              JPMorgan Chase & Co .............$228,005
                                                                                                                                              Blank Rome LLP.......................$225,150
                                                                                                                                              US Dept of State......................$220,280
                                                                                                                                              Ameriquest Capital..................$208,130
                                                                                                                                              Blue Cross/Blue Shield.............$199,075

                                                                                                                                              Obama Top Contributors, 2008 Cycle

                                                                                                                                              University of California.............$1,799,460
                                                                                                                                              Goldman Sachs.......................$1,034,615
                                                                                                                                              Harvard University...................$900,909
                                                                                                                                              Microsoft Corp.........................$854,717
                                                                                                                                              JPMorgan Chase & Co...............$847,895
                                                                                                                                              Google Inc .............................$817,855
                                                                                                                                              Citigroup Inc..........................$755,057
                                                                                                                                              US Government .....................$638,335
                                                                                                                                              Time Warner..........................$617,844
                                                                                                                                              Sidley Austin LLP....................$606,260
                                                                                                                                              Stanford University.................$603,866
                                                                                                                                              National Amusements Inc........$579,098
                                                                                                                                              Columbia University................$570,839
                                                                                                                                              Skadden, Arps et al................$554,439
                                                                                                                                              WilmerHale Llp.......................$554,373
                                                                                                                                              US Dept of Justice..................$540,636
                                                                                                                                              IBM Corp...............................$534,470
                                                                                                                                              UBS AG.................................$534,166
                                                                                                                                              General Electric.......................$532,031
                                                                                                                                              Morgan Stanley.......................$528,182
                                                                                                                                              100% agree. Now total the donations given to Senators, Congressmen, Governors, Mayors, all the way down to the local dog catcher.

                                                                                                                                              Trump can't change anything, with so many paid to be against him.



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                                                                                                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 52942
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  The West is on a downward spiral, slow but steady. The reasons are obvious.

                                                                                                                                                  Exportation of manufacturing.
                                                                                                                                                  Importation of cheap labour.
                                                                                                                                                  Increase reliance on financial markets.
                                                                                                                                                  Increased power of corporations and the 0.05%
                                                                                                                                                  Governments led by people owned by their backers, couldn't run a corner shop or/and too liberal.
                                                                                                                                                  Tax avoidance by large corporations.

                                                                                                                                                  Voters who keep voting for the same people, expecting a different result.

                                                                                                                                                  Can Trump really do what he promises, with two Houses of Government firmly against him?

                                                                                                                                                  Can the UK get a better deal out of the EU with many EU Nations firmly against them?

                                                                                                                                                  This is making the working and middle class poorer and the 0.05% a lot richer.

                                                                                                                                                  And yet I look at the way people vote over and over again for people that will not change anything. And wonder if they will ever change. We have to vote for the people who can and will do the job. Break the hold of the big Corporations and bureaucracies, before things get worse. The US especially.

                                                                                                                                                  40 years ago China was a failed State with people dying of starvation, it had nothing. Today it's about to become the richest country in the World. By taking our manufacturing and relying on us to buy the goods. What happens when there's not enough of us with enough disposable cash to buy their goods?

                                                                                                                                                  After 40 years of consumerism, we have a problem.



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                                                                                                                                                    • nico-t
                                                                                                                                                      emperor of my world
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 29901
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                      Voters who keep voting for the same people, expecting a different result.

                                                                                                                                                      Can Trump really do what he promises, with two Houses of Government firmly against him?

                                                                                                                                                      Can the UK get a better deal out of the EU with many EU Nations firmly against them?

                                                                                                                                                      This is making the working and middle class poorer and the 0.05% a lot richer.

                                                                                                                                                      And yet I look at the way people vote over and over again for people that will not change anything. And wonder if they will ever change. We have to vote for the people who can and will do the job. Break the hold of the big Corporations and bureaucracies, before things get worse. The US especially.

                                                                                                                                                      40 years ago China was a failed State with people dying of starvation, it had nothing. Today it's about to become the richest country in the World. By taking our manufacturing and relying on us to buy the goods. What happens when there's not enough of us with enough disposable cash to buy their goods?

                                                                                                                                                      After 40 years of consumerism, we have a problem.
                                                                                                                                                      And this is exactly the problem. Knowing this you cannot deny that there has never been a candidate like Trump, funding everything himself, it's unique in history. Add to that that he is not playing along with political correct campaigns.

                                                                                                                                                      And this is why Trump IS different. Granted if he would be president he still has corrupt Washington against him. But you can be sure there will be a shitstorm, if only in the beginning, if he would be president. And that by itself is a statement of the voters, and an important first step.

                                                                                                                                                      That's the only reason people need to vote for him. The voice of the people who say enough with how it's been done the last decades. And that's the only reason i would vote for him if i was a US citizen.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Matyko
                                                                                                                                                          PsyHead
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                                                          • 8677
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          because he often sounds like a retarded dude?
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                                                                                                                                                            • LovinNothin
                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2015
                                                                                                                                                              • 565
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Screw Iowa. A bunch of moronic evangelical assholes. Who gives shit what people in Iowa even think? It's no wonder Cruz won there. He's just as fucked up.

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                                                                                                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by GregE
                                                                                                                                                                  You realize, or maybe you don't, that unlike Trump the folks running against him are in favor of off-shoring decent jobs (nearly all of his opponents support the TPP Treaty) and/or forcing rape victims to bear the rapists child (Rubio and a few others). Trump too has dropped some very, very strong hints that he's still in favor of single payer health care. Do you oppose that as well?

                                                                                                                                                                  He also has an effective sounding plan to force the reduction of pharmaceutical prices to the same level that the rest of the world pays. Pretty much the same plan that Sanders is touting actually.

                                                                                                                                                                  Indeed, on a whole lot of issues the only one to the left of Trump is Bernie Sanders.
                                                                                                                                                                  You do realize that Trump that guy feeding you bs lines of bringing jobs to America and building walls to keep illegals out has routinely used illegal workers on his construction jobs here in the US? You do know this right?

                                                                                                                                                                  Everytime he is caught, he blames the construction company, yet he hires them again and again knowing they are using illegals.

                                                                                                                                                                  Trump is as full of shit and lying to you just like all those other guys you hate.

                                                                                                                                                                  Bernie meanwhile, may not be perfect but he has a solid record of acting how he talks.
                                                                                                                                                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                                                                                                                      And this is exactly the problem. Knowing this you cannot deny that there has never been a candidate like Trump, funding everything himself, it's unique in history. Add to that that he is not playing along with political correct campaigns.

                                                                                                                                                                      And this is why Trump IS different. Granted if he would be president he still has corrupt Washington against him. But you can be sure there will be a shitstorm, if only in the beginning, if he would be president. And that by itself is a statement of the voters, and an important first step.

                                                                                                                                                                      That's the only reason people need to vote for him. The voice of the people who say enough with how it's been done the last decades. And that's the only reason i would vote for him if i was a US citizen.
                                                                                                                                                                      It's not the different we need and he's only one man.

                                                                                                                                                                      Sanders is a better different. Obama was.

                                                                                                                                                                      It will take someone who's not afraid of losing his wealth if he upsets the wrong people, and that's not Trump. His wealth relies on too many of the people his changes would hurt.



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                                                                                                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                          • 68447
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TCLGirls
                                                                                                                                                                          ...according to exit polling:

                                                                                                                                                                          "As predicted, Trump performed best among voters with a high-school education or lower. But those voters represented only 16% of the electorate on Monday. Voters who had any education beyond high school — 84% of the electorate — mostly broke for Rubio and Cruz over Trump."

                                                                                                                                                                          Here's why Donald Trump suffered a stunning Iowa upset when the polls suggested he'd win - Yahoo Finance
                                                                                                                                                                          so Trump lost because most of America is uneducated......, well,as you call your group, "low-educated".

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                                                                                                                                                                            • SuckOnThis
                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 6844
                                                                                                                                                                              #44



                                                                                                                                                                              Sore loser Trump: Cruz stole Iowa

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                                                                                                                                                                                • L-Pink
                                                                                                                                                                                  working on my tan
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 39151
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Dvae
                                                                                                                                                                                  Anybody that thinks theres that much difference between Bush and Obama when it comes to Banks and big corporate contributors is just misinformed. The only difference I see is Obama criticizes Wallstreet all the while taking their money.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Obama Top Contributors, 2008 Cycle

                                                                                                                                                                                  University of California.............$1,799,460

                                                                                                                                                                                  Harvard University...................$900,909

                                                                                                                                                                                  Stanford University.................$603,866

                                                                                                                                                                                  Columbia University................$570,839

                                                                                                                                                                                  Why would a public university like University of Calif donate that kind of money?



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                                                                                                                                                                                    • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                      just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 68447
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                                                                                                      Why would a public university like University of Calif donate that kind of money?



                                                                                                                                                                                      .
                                                                                                                                                                                      i remember this and had looked into it, it's against the law for a public institution to contribute to political campaigns but affiliates and associates of that instution can. they also gave a substantial amount to Romney.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                                                          Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 51263
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SuckOnThis



                                                                                                                                                                                          Sore loser Trump: Cruz stole Iowa

                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow what a crybaby. Not really surprised much though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 68447
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SuckOnThis



                                                                                                                                                                                              Sore loser Trump: Cruz stole Iowa
                                                                                                                                                                                              this isn't that out of the ordinary and even Sander's campaign is asking for reviews

                                                                                                                                                                                              Sanders camp questions Iowa caucus results


                                                                                                                                                                                              Iowa nightmare revisited: Was correct winner called on caucus night?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • SuckOnThis
                                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 6844
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                                  this isn't that out of the ordinary and even Sander's campaign is asking for reviews

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sanders camp questions Iowa caucus results


                                                                                                                                                                                                  Iowa nightmare revisited: Was correct winner called on caucus night?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not even comparable. They virtually tied and in normal elections would have caused an automatic recount, whereas Trump cannot accept reality.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • TCLGirls
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 3068
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                                      so Trump lost because most of America is uneducated......, well,as you call your group, "low-educated".


                                                                                                                                                                                                      No, I don't think you comprehended the article correctly. The article suggested that Trump lost in Iowa because there were not enough low educated persons in Iowa.

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