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  • georgeyw
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    • Jul 2005
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    #1

    Two Aussies to be executed by firing squad in Indonesia

    How much news coverage if any has this received in your part of the world? Also what slant has the media placed on it? For or against the executions?

    Bali Nine execution: Death island ready for Chan and Sukumaran

    We are being bombarded with it over here, it is causing quite a stir amongst Australians.

    Bali Nine executions: Tony Abbott reminds Indonesia of $1b tsunami aid
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    • faxxaff
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      • Dec 2002
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      #2
      Getting shot dead is much better way to die than getting lethal injections.
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        • AdultKing
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          • Jun 2003
          • 15601
          #3
          This wasn't a first time offence for Chan & Sukamaran, they previously smuggled heroin from Bali to Australia successfully and also had another failed attempt because their courier didn't turn up. Third time they got caught.

          There are signs all over the airports of Indonesia warning of the consequences of drug smuggling.

          I know the popular opinion is that these poor wretched men have reformed and one has found God, but if they weren't caught would they now be reformed or living in a big house with sports cars and the trappings of a drug funded life of crime ?

          I oppose the death penalty, most Australians do. However we can't dictate the laws of other countries. So I don't support our Government trying to intervene when we have hundreds of children locked up in detention centres in hell holes like Manus Island. It reeks of hypocrisy.

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            • Bladewire
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              • Aug 2003
              • 56228
              #4
              Haven't heard a thing about it until GFY just now

              But I do remember when living in Oz those 5 years hearing about the Bali nine constantly.


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                • MaDalton
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                  #5
                  i am against death penalty in general but it's not that they didn't know the risk, right?
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                    • AdultKing
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                      • Jun 2003
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                      i am against death penalty in general but it's not that they didn't know the risk, right?
                      Yeah, exactly, they knew the risk and they had done it before. It's not like they were gullible first time offenders.

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                        • baddog
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                          • Apr 2001
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                          #7
                          First I have heard of it.

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                            • Cherry7
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                              • Aug 2005
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                              #8
                              I think they should be executed in America because that is a civilised country.
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                                • AdultKing
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                                  • Jun 2003
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  First I have heard of it.
                                  Most Americans won't have heard of it because most Americans aren't aware of world events unless Fox news tells them about it.

                                  You guys should start reading and watching some alternative quality news sources like:

                                  The Guardian
                                  BBC News
                                  Al Jazeera
                                  etc

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                                    • Bladewire
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                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 56228
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by AdultKing
                                      Most Americans won't have heard of it because most Americans aren't aware of world events unless Fox news tells them about it.

                                      You guys should start reading and watching some alternative quality news sources like:

                                      The Guardian
                                      BBC News
                                      Al Jazeera
                                      etc
                                      Who the fuck are you talking about "Americans" this "Americans" that? WTF


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                                        • candyflip
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                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 43069
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Squirtit
                                          Who the fuck are you talking about "Americans" this "Americans" that? WTF
                                          I just ignore his ignorance. He's irrelevant at this point.

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                                            • georgeyw
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by AdultKing
                                              Yeah, exactly, they knew the risk and they had done it before. It's not like they were gullible first time offenders.
                                              Blah blah blah.

                                              No one has said anything about them being innocent men, they have had this death penalty hanging over their heads for 10 years now. Do you honestly think that they have not done everything possible to become model prisoners?

                                              Actually forget it, I am not interested in your self righteous view point today, just stfu, I was interested in if OTHER parts of the world had heard about it. So please, go away.
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                                                • MiamiBoyz
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                                                  • Oct 2012
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                                                  #13
                                                  OK, first of all the term "executed" is the term meaning "legally murdered"

                                                  Nothing else. Please use the term murdered when reading these type of stories.

                                                  Next - murdered for commerce? Trafficking drugs is nothing more and I hardly think that in this modern day and age human being are actually being murdered by a government for this act - really blows ones mind!

                                                  Human being are worthless animals.

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                                                    • GAMEFINEST
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                                                      #14
                                                      hard lesson learned.
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                                                        • georgeyw
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by faxxaff
                                                          Getting shot dead is much better way to die than getting lethal injections.
                                                          Just my 2 Cents.
                                                          I don't know about that, both don't sound like great ways to go really, especially after that botched lethal injection execution in the US ( last year? ? )

                                                          Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                          Haven't heard a thing about it until GFY just now

                                                          But I do remember when living in Oz those 5 years hearing about the Bali nine constantly.
                                                          Yes, that was really big news at the time. They have not relaly featured in the news until just recently when the new President decided to execute all drug traffickers.

                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                          i am against death penalty in general but it's not that they didn't know the risk, right?
                                                          I'm sure they did, young dumb full of their own invincibility and absolute stupidity I imagine. They have worked very hard to turn their lives around in prison, ignore AK.

                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                          First I have heard of it.
                                                          Interesting, anyone else? perhaps from the UK ?
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                                                            • georgeyw
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                                                              OK, first of all the term "executed" is the term meaning "legally murdered"

                                                              Nothing else. Please use the term murdered when reading these type of stories.

                                                              Next - murdered for commerce? Trafficking drugs is nothing more and I hardly think that in this modern day and age human being are actually being murdered by a government for this act - really blows ones mind!

                                                              Human being are worthless animals.
                                                              I don't disagree with you at all, simply interested in who has heard about it elsewhere in the world.
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                                                                    • AdultKing
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                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 15601
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Everyone in Australia is crying for these drug smuggling criminals yet hundreds of kids being locked on remote prison islands in harsh conditions and subject to abuse is basically ignored.

                                                                      http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...12-13b10a.html

                                                                      Sorry, I have much more sympathy for those kids locked up in detention than the delayed carrying out of a punishment for two drug smugglers in a foreign sovereign country.

                                                                      I really don't understand how the public can be swept up in emotion over these two guys yet not take to the streets to protect kids who are behind lock and key on a horrible remote detention centre on an island off Papua New Guinea at our own Government's choosing.

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                                                                        • Rochard
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                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                          • 75733
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                          Most Americans won't have heard of it because most Americans aren't aware of world events unless Fox news tells them about it.

                                                                          You guys should start reading and watching some alternative quality news sources like:

                                                                          The Guardian
                                                                          BBC News
                                                                          Al Jazeera
                                                                          etc
                                                                          Or... It's just not news in the US. I surely do not watch Fox, and I don't get my news from anyone "one source" but instead use a few different feeds - all of which have world news on it.

                                                                          My main feed has news from France, Ukraine, Brazil, Pakistan, and.... There it is - Australia.

                                                                          Sorry, but what's news down under usually has little impact here.
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                                                                            • MaDalton
                                                                              I am Amazing Content!
                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                              • 39861
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                                                                              OK, first of all the term "executed" is the term meaning "legally murdered"

                                                                              Nothing else. Please use the term murdered when reading these type of stories.

                                                                              Next - murdered for commerce? Trafficking drugs is nothing more and I hardly think that in this modern day and age human being are actually being murdered by a government for this act - really blows ones mind!

                                                                              Human being are worthless animals.
                                                                              commerce? really?

                                                                              i take from your posts in general here that compassion is not really your strong point but once you have children or friends that die from overdoses, i am not sure if you look the same way at the people that sold them the drugs...

                                                                              at least i don't see them as your friendly neighborhood merchants...
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                                                                                • L-Pink
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                                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                                  • 39151
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                  I don't disagree with you at all, simply interested in who has heard about it elsewhere in the world.
                                                                                  I've seen the story on yahoo before.

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                                                                                    • Bladewire
                                                                                      StraightBro
                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                      • 56228
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                                      I just ignore his ignorance. He's irrelevant at this point.
                                                                                      It's just insulting he lumps almost all Americans as the kind of uneducated right wing nutjobs who'd turn to Fox news as a legitimate news source, when it's a fact that only 8% of Americans watch Fox news. At least I know how he's sees Americans, I hadn't known that about him before. sucks


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                                                                                        • Bladewire
                                                                                          StraightBro
                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                          • 56228
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                          at least i don't see them as your friendly neighborhood merchants...
                                                                                          Correct, that would be my doctor


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                                                                                            • georgeyw
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                              Everyone in Australia is crying for these drug smuggling criminals yet hundreds of kids being locked on remote prison islands in harsh conditions and subject to abuse is basically ignored.

                                                                                              Hundreds of children abused in detention: report

                                                                                              Sorry, I have much more sympathy for those kids locked up in detention than the delayed carrying out of a punishment for two drug smugglers in a foreign sovereign country.

                                                                                              I really don't understand how the public can be swept up in emotion over these two guys yet not take to the streets to protect kids who are behind lock and key on a horrible remote detention centre on an island off Papua New Guinea at our own Government's choosing.
                                                                                              That foreign sovereign country drains half a billion from us each year, 1 billion after the Tsunami, there is a 1 billion dollar loan facility that was just extended to June 2015, they just let one of the bali bombers go just recently, he was part of killing numerous Australians.

                                                                                              I really do not understand the mentality of people like you, wishing death on another. It is abhorrent behaviour IMO.
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                                                                                                • georgeyw
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2005
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                  I've seen the story on yahoo before.
                                                                                                  Thanks, i'm not surprised that this hasn't made much of an impact on news in the US, wuld have thought it would be mentioned in the UK.

                                                                                                  Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                                                  It's just insulting he lumps almost all Americans as the kind of uneducated right wing nutjobs who'd turn to Fox news as a legitimate news source, when it's a fact that only 8% of Americans watch Fox news. At least I know how he's sees Americans, I hadn't known that about him before. sucks
                                                                                                  Wouldn't worry about it if I were you, keep on keeping on, you have your own life
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                                                                                                    • AdultKing
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                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                      • 15601
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                                      I really do not understand the mentality of people like you, wishing death on another. It is abhorrent behaviour IMO.
                                                                                                      I don't wish death on anyone, I oppose the death penalty. What I am trying to say is that these guys knew the risks, did it more than once and are now paying the price.

                                                                                                      Who's crying for the young Australian's who overdose on heroin every week, the very substance these guys were trying to smuggle to Australia for the third time!

                                                                                                      Everyone knows that dealing in drugs in south east Asia is subject to really harsh punishment. I still have embedded in my mind the fate of people like Chambers & Barlow who were hanged for a similar offence.

                                                                                                      If you've been to Indonesia you will have seen the huge posters all over the airports warning of the penalties, these guys were stupid. Do they deserve to die for it ? No they don't but we can't dictate to foreign Governments how they deal with criminals in their own country.

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                                                                                                        • georgeyw
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                                                                                                          • Jul 2005
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                          I don't wish death on anyone, I oppose the death penalty. What I am trying to say is that these guys knew the risks, did it more than once and are now paying the price.

                                                                                                          Who's crying for the young Australian's who overdose on heroin every week, the very substance these guys were trying to smuggle to Australia for the third time!

                                                                                                          Everyone knows that dealing in drugs in south east Asia is subject to really harsh punishment. I still have embedded in my mind the fate of people like Chambers & Barlow who were hanged for a similar offence.

                                                                                                          If you've been to Indonesia you will have seen the huge posters all over the airports warning of the penalties, these guys were stupid. Do they deserve to die for it ? No they don't but we can't dictate to foreign Governments how they deal with criminals in their own country.
                                                                                                          How about this, they knew the risks and paid the penalty ***

                                                                                                          *** Can be applied to every single application you wish, if you choose to lack empathy for anyone at all.

                                                                                                          We are not trying to dictate, Australians and the Govt have been asking for mercy to be shown, to look at what these guys have done to turn their lives around.

                                                                                                          Indonesia does exactly same thing for their people who are on death row around the world (for drug cases too....).

                                                                                                          There was a drug manufacturer who got off very lightly recently over there because he PAID the bribes.

                                                                                                          The President decided he would *solve* the drug problem and has blindly denied all pleas for clemency, he has not even sighted a thing about any of these men.

                                                                                                          I have very little hope for these two, I know what it is like to deal with these types of cultures and there is absolutely no changing of the minds here, very sad and I hope Australia does boycott bali for a long long time when these men are executed.
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                                                                                                            • Captain Kawaii
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                                                                                                              • Oct 2007
                                                                                                              • 6748
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              They are HEROIN smugglers. I would feel for them if they were caught smuggling something that does not regularly kill its users. Saw the news on Yahoo.

                                                                                                              Probably a good idea to avoid SE Asia for all your heroin smuggling activities. Better to partner up with the CIA and drop ship out of Afghanistan.

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                                                                                                                • directfiesta
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Read a few articles here.

                                                                                                                  They got a trial, and were convicted of the crime . Sentences are in place accordingly to the crimes.

                                                                                                                  I am against death penalty . But various countries have different laws . Learn to respect them or do not visit
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                                                                                                                    • Tekkno
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                                                                                                                      • Nov 2014
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      The funny thing is that they were smuggling the heroin OUT of indonesia..
                                                                                                                      So the motivation that drugs kills so many indonesian and they need to face the death penalty because of that doesn't make much sense..
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                                                                                                                        • RandyRandy
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                                                                                                                          • Jul 2012
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                                                          How much news coverage if any has this received in your part of the world? Also what slant has the media placed on it? For or against the executions?

                                                                                                                          Bali Nine execution: Death island ready for Chan and Sukumaran

                                                                                                                          We are being bombarded with it over here, it is causing quite a stir amongst Australians.

                                                                                                                          Bali Nine executions: Tony Abbott reminds Indonesia of $1b tsunami aid
                                                                                                                          It's getting play in Malaysia. Considering they have the same drug laws here (1oz of pot = death penalty) you can figure out that they are siding with their Indonesian counterparts.

                                                                                                                          Also getting play is that the Australian Gov't is hypocritical here because they never supported these guys until the last minute when it's too late.

                                                                                                                          That and everyone knows the risk/reward of the game, yo.

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                                                                                                                            • RandyRandy
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                                                                                                                              • Jul 2012
                                                                                                                              • 1708
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                                                              I hope Australia does boycott bali for a long long time when these men are executed.
                                                                                                                              Little chance of that. The 2005 bombing in Bali that killed almost 100 Aussies didn't deter the throngs from going to Bali. Neither did the fact that 36 of the people convicted in that case walked out of prison last year and are free.

                                                                                                                              People get angry for a day, lose interest, and move on to the next outrage.

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                                                                                                                                • _Richard_
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                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2006
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  heard about it, also heard this isn't these guys first rodeo. Everyone and their dog knows one gets executed for drug running in these countries..

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                                                                                                                                    • Black All Through
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                      First I have heard of it.
                                                                                                                                      Thats because it's shown on "News at 8" you're always in bed by that time!
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                                                                                                                                        • slapass
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                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                                          Most Americans won't have heard of it because most Americans aren't aware of world events unless Fox news tells them about it.

                                                                                                                                          You guys should start reading and watching some alternative quality news sources like:

                                                                                                                                          The Guardian
                                                                                                                                          BBC News
                                                                                                                                          Al Jazeera
                                                                                                                                          etc
                                                                                                                                          I listen to the BBC and read the Economist. Haven't heard a thing about this.

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                                                                                                                                            • beerptrol
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 12722
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I've heard and have seen news about the case over the years!

                                                                                                                                              I have no sympathy, as they knew the risks that their actions had if caught. And not like it was their first time doing it!
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                                                                                                                                                  Better to avoid these third world countries.


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                                                                                                                                                    • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                                                                      It's 42
                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2010
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                                                                                                      It's just insulting he lumps almost all Americans as the kind of uneducated right wing nutjobs who'd turn to Fox news as a legitimate news source, when it's a fact that only 8% of Americans watch Fox news. At least I know how he's sees Americans, I hadn't known that about him before. sucks
                                                                                                                                                      You know the old saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" -- in this case -- the attention ...

                                                                                                                                                      Nine drug smugglers with priors, including 2 Australians, executed in Indonesia. It's back page news in the USA. I doubt 75% of Americans could find Indonesia on a map.

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                                                                                                                                                        • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          the smugglers should man the fuck up and take the punishment with no bitch...they knew the risk and had no problem with it...crying mommy over a heroin smuggle gone wrong is like parents blaming dealers for their kids shooting up

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                                                                                                                                                            • BaldBastard
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by RandyRandy
                                                                                                                                                              Little chance of that. The 2005 bombing in Bali that killed almost 100 Aussies didn't deter the throngs from going to Bali. Neither did the fact that 36 of the people convicted in that case walked out of prison last year and are free.

                                                                                                                                                              People get angry for a day, lose interest, and move on to the next outrage.
                                                                                                                                                              Australians don't go to Bali for the Indonesians they go there for the local Balinese. Taking any action at Bali, effects the Balinese the most, those in Jakarta don't really care. Balinese are Hindu

                                                                                                                                                              I hope the two Aussies don't get death, however there are many countries with citizens on death row in Indonesia, I can't see them making exceptions.

                                                                                                                                                              For the Americans what's makes this case complex is it was the Australian Police that tipped off the Indonesian police that a group of Aussies were bringing drugs into Australia, and asked if they could they arrest them, instead of waiting until they arrived in Australia.

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                                                                                                                                                                • JesseQuinn
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2012
                                                                                                                                                                  • 6620
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I would imagine for most peeps who are against the death penalty are disgusted by state sanctioned murder, regardless of how sympathetic (or not) the inmate actually is.

                                                                                                                                                                  It is murder; MiamiBoyz is absolutely right. 'execution' is a euphemism that minimizes the act, and when it occurs - no matter where it occurs, it diminishes us a species

                                                                                                                                                                  I suspect the 'they knew they risks going in' crowd are at least in part reacting to the hypocrisy of criticizing a non-Western nation for killing people when the US (leader of the world or so they like to think) also engage in the same practice with impunity. (love the list posted by aka123, that's some great company in which the US finds itself).

                                                                                                                                                                  As to the notion that aid given to Indonesia should mean that Aussie prisoners should be granted leniency, bullshit. The death penalty is wrong, being born into a wealthy nation that's in the position to grant aid funding shouldn't elevate their importance above any other prisoner who faces the same fate.

                                                                                                                                                                  Speaking to the issue raised about Australia's own abuses, I don't really see a parallel. Human rights abuses are wide spread (hell, both Canada and the US engage in similar conduct) and unacceptable, but a human rights violation in one nation shouldn't cancel out a violation in another. Both are wrong. Both deserve outrage.

                                                                                                                                                                  I can't fathom what the families of the Bali prisoners are going through right now, they must feel like they're living a nightmare
                                                                                                                                                                  throwing molotav cocktails at the precinct

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                                                                                                                                                                    • _Richard_
                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                                                                      • 30991
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by JesseQuinn

                                                                                                                                                                      I suspect the 'they knew they risks going in' crowd are at least in part reacting to the hypocrisy of criticizing a non-Western nation for killing people when the US (leader of the world or so they like to think) also engage in the same practice with impunity. (love the list posted by aka123, that's some great company in which the US finds itself).

                                                                                                                                                                      As to the notion that aid given to Indonesia should mean that Aussie prisoners should be granted leniency, bullshit. The death penalty is wrong, being born into a wealthy nation that's in the position to grant aid funding shouldn't elevate their importance above any other prisoner who faces the same fate.

                                                                                                                                                                      Speaking to the issue raised about Australia's own abuses, I don't really see a parallel. Human rights abuses are wide spread (hell, both Canada and the US engage in similar conduct) and unacceptable, but a human rights violation in one nation shouldn't cancel out a violation in another. Both are wrong. Both deserve outrage.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • JFK
                                                                                                                                                                          FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 67373
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by GAMEFINEST
                                                                                                                                                                          hard lesson learned.
                                                                                                                                                                          After bullet hits the bone, lesson endeth

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                                                                                                                                                                            • georgeyw
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                                              • 9865
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by RandyRandy
                                                                                                                                                                              It's getting play in Malaysia. Considering they have the same drug laws here (1oz of pot = death penalty) you can figure out that they are siding with their Indonesian counterparts.

                                                                                                                                                                              Also getting play is that the Australian Gov't is hypocritical here because they never supported these guys until the last minute when it's too late.

                                                                                                                                                                              That and everyone knows the risk/reward of the game, yo.
                                                                                                                                                                              The Gov has supported them in helping them to reform themselves, ie they provided the contacts and information to enable to do what they have done.

                                                                                                                                                                              The last President did not execute anyone AFAIK.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Aka_Bluey
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 631
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by RandyRandy
                                                                                                                                                                                  Little chance of that. The 2005 bombing in Bali that killed almost 100 Aussies didn't deter the throngs from going to Bali. Neither did the fact that 36 of the people convicted in that case walked out of prison last year and are free.
                                                                                                                                                                                  This...

                                                                                                                                                                                  Australians died in the 2005 bombing in Bali, and Indonesia's corrupt judicial system has let the bulk of the puckers that planted and/or help plant/make the pucken bombs walk.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Spend your money in Australia, see Australia first, if you live in oz you would have seen this add.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Why spend a pucken dollar in Indonesia or Bali.. Tourists die in that shit hole of a country all the time, mugged, r4ped, drugged and the press hardly run any of those stories, ohh we cannot offend our neighbours the Indonesians, noo we cannot have that, give me a pucked break.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Say what you will, but it is Indonesian law, And to have Tony Abbott speaking to the press saying that ohh but when Indonesia got wiped out by that big pucken wave and needed help, Australia gave them a billion and a half dollars. Now Australia need a favor and would like to ask Indonesia not to kill these 2 puckers, i mean really, these 2 drug smugger lives are worth a billion and a half pucken dollars, un pucken believable.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Things that make ya go hmmmm....

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • scottybuzz
                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 14799
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      the fact they did it before means they took a calculated risk. Good riddance. Drugs hurt millions and destroy communities.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Try living in a drug riddled community in 3rd world Indonesia and see if you still want these guys to be released.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • American Psycho
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2009
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 3068
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          More shrimp for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • pimpmaster9000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 26732
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                                                                                                                                              the fact they did it before means they took a calculated risk. Good riddance. Drugs hurt millions and destroy communities.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Try living in a drug riddled community in 3rd world Indonesia and see if you still want these guys to be released.
                                                                                                                                                                                              spoons make people fat! ban spoons!...truth be told, drugs do not hurt millions...millions hurt themselves...it is a choice...

                                                                                                                                                                                              its just easier to blame traffickers than ourselves...
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • brassmonkey
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 77396
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  good nite six feet down under mate
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • just a punk
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 32393
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Obey the Cowgod

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