ISIS seizes al-Baghdadi, al-Asaad US base attacked

[onwebcam]

Islamist State fighters seize western Iraqi town - officials
Islamist State fighters seize western Iraqi town - officials | Reuters

This is supposedly a video from the al-Asad base where 300 troops are housed

[Rochard]

It's pretty clear this group is very powerful and only boots on the ground will stop it. The Iraqi army is just not up to the task.

[pornmasta]

it gives a new excuse to attack isis (but i wonder if the USA really needs one ?)

[RummyBoy]

it gives a new excuse to attack isis (but i wonder if the USA really needs one ?)

You always come back to the same dilemma, again and again.

It doesn't need an excuse but the US government does not have the wherewithal to get into another expensive war (especially with another shutdown looming). The American people are war weary because of the stupid "unnecessary" wars that have preceded this.

Ironically it is those stupid "unnecessary" wars that have created this monster and THIS war is the one which now really needs to be fought otherwise its game over for Europe.

Mark my words, the whole of Europe will be a muslim state 10 to 20 years from now unless action is taken. One of the main things is to stop the boatloads of immigrants flowing into the ladies boot.

[pornmasta]

the whole of Europe will be a muslim state 10 to 20 years from now unless action is taken.

but...

[directfiesta]

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[TheSquealer]

They're clearly a "JV Team"... because Obama said so.

[sandman!]

remember when Assad said he was fighting extremists and our government said he was full of shit ?

yea ok now.

[onwebcam]

remember when Assad said he was fighting extremists and our government said he was full of shit ?

yea ok now.

Remember when Obama funded those extremists? Oh wait.

[Barry-xlovecam]

The USA should not get sucked into another messy conflict in Iraq (or the Middle East in general) .

Let ISIS consolidate their territory, concentrate their forces, then suck them into being a fat target ... Give them their appointment with destiny.

[_Richard_]

The USA should not get sucked into another messy conflict in Iraq (or the Middle East in general) .

Let ISIS consolidate their territory, concentrate their forces, then suck them into being a fat target ... Give them their appointment with destiny.

a lot of these fighters came from libya, who we paid to take out that government.

then we paid other 'rebels' to take out the syrian government... and now look.

I have heard there is/was 300 Marines at this airport training.. does anyone have any word on this?

cause the iraqi army lost contact with this airport

[rogueteens]

but...

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[elmy]

is this real ?

[MrGusMuller]

Looks like someone is smoking a lot of weed and they lights are green...

nothing less, nothing more.

[just a punk]

It's pretty clear this group is very powerful and only boots on the ground will stop it. The Iraqi army is just not up to the task.

It (the Iraqi army) was able to take the region under control just before your stupid government destroyed it for no reason. After that you fucked up Libya and tried to do the same with Syria. Why?

[bronco67]

It's pretty clear this group is very powerful and only boots on the ground will stop it. The Iraqi army is just not up to the task.

The Iraqi army is well equipped and trained. The problem is they don't feel the need to fight for their country. We should just leave Iraq totally and let the people there get the rule they deserve. If they don't want to fight for their country, why should we?

[bronco67]

The USA should not get sucked into another messy conflict in Iraq (or the Middle East in general) .

Let ISIS consolidate their territory, concentrate their forces, then suck them into being a fat target ... Give them their appointment with destiny.

I was thinking along the same lines. Let them assemble their "Islamic State", then constantly rotate all of our C-130 gunships around it until it's turned to ash.

[ITraffic]

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[klinton]

Mark my words, the whole of Europe will be a muslim state 10 to 20 years from now unless action is taken. One of the main things is to stop the boatloads of immigrants flowing into the ladies boot.

lol

[klinton]

a lot of these fighters came from libya, who we paid to take out that government.

then we paid other 'rebels' to take out the syrian government... and now look.

dont forget about Saddam

100,000's of people died because of this..and few ppl made good money

[klinton]

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[Horatio Caine]

Why can't they bomb entire hideout with 1000 lbs bombs and be done with it?

[DraX]

Mark my words, the whole of Europe will be a muslim state 10 to 20 years from now unless action is taken. One of the main things is to stop the boatloads of immigrants flowing into the ladies boot.

You should talk with Angela Merkel about this, perhabst already today...

If she's not busy eating bratwurst and sauerkrat

[Brent 3dSexCash]

You always come back to the same dilemma, again and again.

It doesn't need an excuse but the US government does not have the wherewithal to get into another expensive war (especially with another shutdown looming). The American people are war weary because of the stupid "unnecessary" wars that have preceded this.

Ironically it is those stupid "unnecessary" wars that have created this monster and THIS war is the one which now really needs to be fought otherwise its game over for Europe.

Mark my words, the whole of Europe will be a muslim state 10 to 20 years from now unless action is taken. One of the main things is to stop the boatloads of immigrants flowing into the ladies boot.

I actually think it is too late even if you stop the flow of immigrants. Muslims have kids at a rate much higher than the rest of the secular Europe. They will simply breed their way to the top.

[_Richard_]

Why can't they bomb entire hideout with 1000 lbs bombs and be done with it?

oddly if you look at isis control pre-bombing compared to post bombing.. they have done very well with our 'intervention'.

so well, we should stop bombing and hopefully they'll be as ineffective as they were originally

[FreeHugeMovies]

I wish some other countries with balls would take control of this mess. In realty we are the ones who created this mess by attacking IRAQ.

[MCFan]

Maybe the middle east issues and fights should be their own ... let them get along or fight each other as they wish.

[RummyBoy]

I wish some other countries with balls would take control of this mess. In realty we are the ones who created this mess by attacking IRAQ.

Well middle east and interventionist US policy created Al Qaida and others. US wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya etc vacuums created the environment for ISIS. The war against ISIS now in Syria/Iraq will probably create the next monster.

The next monster will be worse than ISIS. Sooner or later, we end up with the beast....

[directfiesta]

Maybe the middle east issues and fights should be their own ... let them get along or fight each other as they wish.

maybe it is just a little tidy bit too late ... for this approach.

[Rochard]

The Iraqi army is well equipped and trained. The problem is they don't feel the need to fight for their country. We should just leave Iraq totally and let the people there get the rule they deserve. If they don't want to fight for their country, why should we?

The Iraqi army has a twenty or thirty year history of failure. You are right, they don't want to fight for their country. They have no backbone at all. When the US invaded, they ran and hid - they would take off their uniforms and just leave.

Sometimes I wonder if you are right - maybe we should just walk away and say "You are on your own".

[directfiesta]

Well middle east and interventionist US policy created Al Qaida and others. US wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya etc vacuums created the environment for ISIS. The war against ISIS now in Syria/Iraq will probably create the next monster.

The next monster will be worse than ISIS. Sooner or later, we end up with the beast....

already in Libya, and for a while :

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...rom-Libya.html

Thx to NATO

[directfiesta]

and YEMEN is setting up as US Marines , Brits and others have ran out of the country ....

[dyna mo]

muslim extremists were around long before USA. we didn't create IS, it grew from JTF, the al-zarqawi group created to get rid of the King of Jordan and all Sunni muslims.

[klinton]

muslim extremists were around long before USA. we didn't create IS, it grew from JTF, the al-zarqawi group created to get rid of the King of Jordan and all Sunni muslims.

"created" not - but gave **excellent** environment for it to grow rapidly as never before..which is the same actually..regardless how u will spin the words

[directfiesta]

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