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Despite serious attempts to write history as someone pleases; it usually doesn't work. For starters as we have archeology, and history is studied extensively anyways. You may be bullshitting folks in North Korea and maybe in US (creationist stuff and such), but even in those countries people will get to know things as they are, although it might take some time.
And what comes to tinfoil hat stuff, it clearly demonstrates how many people are open to propaganda; from victors or not. So, history is also written by some weirdos with a computer and keyboard. Not any big victories required.
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I remember that garden; it was small, but Hess loved being in it. One Sunday while checking on him, he insisted on showing it to me------I recall it being to the right as we (and one of the security guards) walked out into what reminded me of a small back yard; he had red roses and some tomatoes growing in it, and seemed very proud of the growth.
He wanted to show me everything he was planning to plant, but I was more focused on getting him safely back inside the prison-----he emphasized where grape vines were going to be planted the next year. Small world-----from a GFY thread to the stirring of ancient memories for me. At the time, he reminded me of my Grandpa back in Saratoga Springs, NY. And now, back to business stuff:-)Comment
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It could have happened. There was lots of Nazi submarines running around at the close of war, and it's possible one left Europe with Adolf Hitler in it and made it to South America. It was pure chaos towards the end, and some of them did in fact slip through.
However, we have no evidence of this at all. We also have dozens of people who all tell the same exact story. At the same time, there is no reason why our government or any other government would have lied about this - if he did in fact live we would have hunted him down and killed him, plain and simple.
Then.... You would have thought the Mossad would have found him if he was a live.
I think he died exactly how we think he died, and the reason we cannot find his body is because it was smashed to smithereens when the Russians bombed every last inch of Germany. Keep in mind no one knew where the bunker was or even that Hitler was in it when Berlin was over run. If I remember correctly the first few people who entered the bunker were two or three female Russian soldiers.Herschel Savage
Brooklyn, NYComment
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The chaos was for the Germany, not allies. Running with nearly impunity, they were more organized than ever.
Some nazi submarines might have slipped through from Germany, but chances were not that great. Even when they were still in France, most submarines didn't get to the open sea from bay of Biscay, at the end nearly none. WWII submarines were mostly suface wessels, only exemption was Germany's latest and best submarine, but it too had to run on surface to recharge batteries.Comment
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Nothing could be further from the truth. The Allies were organized in many ways, but also completely over overwhelmed and constantly in motion. Towards the end of the war the allies were taking in millions and millions of German POWs and other "misplaced persons" and housing and feeding them.
It would be easy for a small group of Nazis to hide with the displaced persons and make it to the coast.
I also believe some Nazi submarines surrendered or otherwise scuttled their ships in South America weeks after the war had ended.Herschel Savage
Brooklyn, NYComment
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They believed her was in a bunker and that it was near the German Chancellery in the center of Berlin, but not exactly where. Narrowing down the location to a five block or ten block radius isn't too helpful, and even less so when there is a way going on, movement is limited, and bombs are raining down.
As for his body, it was laid to rest outside of the main bunker entrance in the garden of the German Chancellery building. I would imagine it was near where the Goebbels killed themselves. That entire area was bombed to death so it's highly unlikely that any remains of his body would have been found - between the fire the bombing, there would have been only fragments left. Keep in mind the Russians didn't exactly have time to deploy a forensics team - There was a war going on. The war went on for another week and even then was still a very dangerous place.Herschel Savage
Brooklyn, NYComment
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Yes, allies had troubles with all the prisoners, but it wasn't chaos; especially regarding this submarine issue. There weren't that much "misplaced persons" at the sea, and especially with submarines. And even in the land there were rear echelon troops after rear echelon troops.
Of course they could have dressed Hitler as some grandma and taken quite easily to the coast, if Hitler would have just wanted that. Getting some submarine and traveling to Argentina is a tad harder to accomplish.Comment
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the the Russian encirclement of Berlin clamped down around the Chancellory almost from the beginning. They knew where they were going.
The Russians had plenty of time to manhandle the HItler's corpse and that's exactly what they did, they buried him and dug him up several times, if memory serves, within that week.Comment
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That picture is from WWII. These Jews had escaped from the Warsaw Ghetto and hid out in the forests. From their camp, they'd attack German troops. oddly, there was a Russian group living nearby in the forest doing the same thing. The 2 groups didn't get along.I heard about this before. But something is fishy here, why ?
If Hitler escaped to Argentina he would have been found and killed by the mossad. In particular team Nakam Nakam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
All that they did post WW2 was to hunt down Nazis and kill them. I think that Hitler would have been their main target. Here is a picture of the clan:
The Avengers: A Jewish War Story was an interesting read.Comment
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It was pure chaos all around. You had multiple US armies rushing in, millions of people displayed, and little to no infrastructure. You couldn't check IDs; Most people were homeless and didn't have them. And it's not like the Nazis couldn't forge an ID by it's own government. Give Hitler some extra padding, shave off his mustache, give him a haircut and a pair of glasses, and no one would know who he was. Some nine thousand Nazis escaped to South America - It wasn't very difficult and much easier if you had money.
As for submarines, you make it sound like it's easy to find a submarine at sea and easy to destroy. Nothing could be further from the truth. They sneak in at night, pick him, and stay under water until nightfall. I can think of two Uboats that surrendered in South America after the way - U-530 and U-977.
While I believe Hitler committed suicide at the bunker, anything was possible and it's obvious it could have happened because thousands pulled it off.Herschel Savage
Brooklyn, NYComment
Unlike some in here who swear the "official" version is the correct one. History is written by the Victors, to suit their own agendas 
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