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dyna mo 02-08-2015 02:20 PM

hate to break it to you crockett but the last thing I need is a misguided and wrong lecture from the PUSA about how I'm supposed to feel guilty about IS setting people on fire and burying kids alive, because hey Christians killed people 1000 fucking years ago.

nothing pussy about point out BO is an asshole for saying that shit to me.

nico-t 02-08-2015 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20386997)
Jesus Christ, a fucking moron that whines and bitches, but never engages, must be because you are some woman's bitch!

i blame obama. Lets whine and bitch about him.. o wait, that's what you're doing in your primitive mind 24/7.

crockett 02-08-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20387145)
hate to break it to you crockett but the last thing I need is a misguided and wrong lecture from the PUSA about how I'm supposed to feel guilty about IS setting people on fire and burying kids alive, because hey Christians killed people 1000 fucking years ago.

nothing pussy about point out BO is an asshole for saying that shit to me.

He didn't say shit about "feeling sorry for ISIS.. That's bullshit you conjure up by listening to right wing talking heads.

It doesn't matter what the subject is, it's always the same response.. You guys just cry Obama, Obama, Obama..

Rochard 02-08-2015 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20387116)
crusade
/kruːˈseɪd/
noun
1.
(often capital) any of the military expeditions undertaken in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries by the Christian powers of Europe to recapture the Holy Land from the Muslims
2.
(formerly) any holy war undertaken on behalf of a religious cause
3.
a vigorous and dedicated action or movement in favour of a cause
According to Dictionary.com

You do not know how to debate at all.

I said "They were military campaigns sanctioned by the Catholic Church" and then you told me I was wrong. Look above at your definition and explain to me how I am wrong. Your definition calls it a "holy war".

How is this any different than what ISIS is currently doing? It's a holy war in the name of their god.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20387116)
OK, here's the last 30 years

Hijacking of Americans (direct attack on the US) in 1979. I was off the coast for this one! It was called the Iran Crisis, I have a medal for being there protecting our fleet.

Action by its government directly and/or via its armed -Hezbollah- wing:
US Marine Barracks in Oct. 1983, killing 241 Americans and 58 French soldiers.
1984-8 string of hijacking US personell.
Bombing of US embassy in Lebanon in April 18, 1983, killing 63.
Bombings in Paris, France in 1985 and 1986. Dozens killed.
Attacking Israel since the 1980s via Hezbollah and Hamas terror "freedom fighting" Jihadi organizations.
Unsuccessful attempt to carry out attacks in Cyprus in 1988; a plot, foiled by Spanish police, to carry out attacks against Jewish targets in Europe in 1989; an unsuccessful attempt to detonate a car bomb outside a Jewish community building in Romania in 1992; and a planned 1996 attack, also foiled by police, on an Israeli institution in Paris.
1992 Bombing of Israeli embassy in Argentina. Killed 29.
1994 Bombing of AMIA Jewish community building, killed 85 and wounded 300, both, Iran and Hezbollah were charged.
July 19, 1994 bombing of Panamanian airline. Kills everyone (21) on board.
Killing of many American and British soldiers in Iraq (its trainors and weapons found there).
Killing of many of US, NATO soldiers in Afghanistan (backing Taliban).
Hezbollah "activities" in Somalia.
Many (Christian and pro western) Lebanese citizens fell victims to the terrorizing Hezbollah mob.
Use of Lebanese civilians, in its wars against Israel.

Can you show me where on that list Iran invaded anyone? No, you can't, because you cannot debate. Someone makes a statement or asks a question and you try overwhelm them by copying and pasting in information which is irrelevant to the question.

As a country, have they attacked and invaded another country and declared war? According to your list, no, they haven't.

Now compare that to the track record of the US. How many countries have we invaded or attacked?

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20387116)
Our economy s not booming, median wages are down, 30 million people are out of work or severally under employed and if it was that good, why is Obama wanting to help the middle class so much? Because the economy is not doing well.

Our economy is in fact booming. Once again, you pick a single fact that looks bad try to make it sound like our economy is in the gutter. Want proof? What is the unemployment rate? No need to answer you can go back and complain about how we figure out unemployment for the past sixty wrong is wrong and how we need to change it RIGHT NOW.

Our economy is obviously sucking - one million jobs in three months
US economy adds 1 million jobs in 3 months | SBS News

All you do is complain. This is what the Republican party has been doing since Obama got into office - crying like "children in a candy store".

The entire Republican platform has recently changed - they cannot complain about the economy any more because the economy is doing great. It won't even be part of the debate during the next election.

Vendzilla 02-08-2015 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20387231)


The entire Republican platform has recently changed - they cannot complain about the economy any more because the economy is doing great. It won't even be part of the debate during the next election.

I'm not a republican

You won't accept that the crusades were about reclaiming land sized by the muslims.
You won't accept that invaded or attacked is the same thing.
And you think that 30 million people unemployed or severally under employed means we have a good economy when the growth rate for the 4th quarter last year slowed to a very bad rate

And you still can't accept that only Republicans hate that shit in office

dyna mo 02-08-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20387224)
He didn't say shit about "feeling sorry for ISIS.. That's bullshit you conjure up by listening to right wing talking heads.

It doesn't matter what the subject is, it's always the same response.. You guys just cry Obama, Obama, Obama..

You fail at understanding context then. Think about it before being a BO apologist. Feel free to explain your version of why on earth BO compared Isis to the crusades in that context.

baddog 02-08-2015 07:53 PM

Saw this today; haven't verified accuracy but based on recent revelations, easy to believe (yes, many of you will hate this)

https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/...43&oe=554ACCE3



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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20387086)
No, I wasn't wrong at all. The EXACT definition of the Crusades is:

The Crusades were military campaigns sanctioned by the Latin Roman Catholic Church during the High Middle Ages and Late Middle Ages.

It's the first sentence of the Wikipedia entry.

Does Middle Ages mean anything to you?

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20387145)
hate to break it to you crockett but the last thing I need is a misguided and wrong lecture from the PUSA about how I'm supposed to feel guilty about IS setting people on fire and burying kids alive, because hey Christians killed people 1000 fucking years ago.

nothing pussy about point out BO is an asshole for saying that shit to me.

Pretty sure I have pointed out that arguing with hm is about as efficient as arguing with your dog.

Rochard 02-08-2015 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20387261)
I'm not a republican

You keep saying that. Yet you hate Obama with a passion.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20387261)
You won't accept that the crusades were about reclaiming land sized by the muslims.

This discussion is about "reclaimed lands sized by the Muslims". But since you brought it up, couldn't you say that Muslims now are rising up to reclaim lands sized by Americans? It was okay when Christians did it during the Crusades, but not okay for Muslims to do the same now?

This is point Obama was making, and the point you fail to see. The crusades were a military campaign in the name of our god, while ISIS is a military campaign in the name of their god. No one is saying ISIS is right or wrong, or even acceptable, but instead he is saying before we judge others we should re-consider our past actions. We've been here before, we've done this ourselves, all in the name of our god.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20387261)
You won't accept that invaded or attacked is the same thing.

Being invaded or being attacked is two different things.

Iran, as a country and a military force, never initiated hostilities by invading another country (at least not in the past one hundred years). Iran did in fact invade Iraq, but only have Iraq attacked first. Outside of the Iran Iraq war (in which Iran was attacked), can you provide me a list where Iran deployed tens of thousands of troops into combat in a foreign country in the past one hundred years?

crockett 02-08-2015 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20387275)
You fail at understanding context then. Think about it before being a BO apologist. Feel free to explain your version of why on earth BO compared Isis to the crusades in that context.

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dyna mo 02-08-2015 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20387380)

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dyna mo 02-08-2015 09:14 PM

50 inquisitions!

Robbie 02-08-2015 09:26 PM

One thing is for sure...the Catholic Church ("catholic" means "universal") brought about 1,000 years of the DARK AGES. That was purely religious. Books were burned, scientists put to death, knowledge from past civilizations was lost.
We went from the Romans having running water to all of Europe living in squalor for a thousand years until the beginning of the Renaissance

If the Dark Ages had never happened...mankind would be 1,000 years ahead in technology, knowledge, and civilization.

Religion is not only pure superstitious nonsense...it's also what has held mankind back from progressing and it is also the reason for a LOT of killing and suffering.

We'd all be better off if people would open their eyes and stop believing in fairy tales.

Vendzilla 02-08-2015 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20387373)
You keep saying that. Yet you hate Obama with a passion.

You think only Republicans hate that shit stain?
Read this Bob Woodward: Dems Tell Me Privately They Hate Obama Too | The Daily Caller
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This discussion is about "reclaimed lands sized by the Muslims".
No, Isis Muslims didn't lose land to the US and I doubt they killed 1,000's of civilians that were native to there own country
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This is point Obama was making, and the point you fail to see. The crusades were a military campaign in the name of our god, while ISIS is a military campaign in the name of their god. No one is saying ISIS is right or wrong, or even acceptable, but instead he is saying before we judge others we should re-consider our past actions. We've been here before, we've done this ourselves, all in the name of our god.
You're saying the crusaders beheaded 17 year old girls on Youtube?

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Being invaded or being attacked is two different things.
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Iran, as a country and a military force, never initiated hostilities by invading another country (at least not in the past one hundred years). Iran did in fact invade Iraq, but only have Iraq attacked first. Outside of the Iran Iraq war (in which Iran was attacked), can you provide me a list where Iran deployed tens of thousands of troops into combat in a foreign country in the past one hundred years?
Now you are just ignoring the facts I posted, better get the facts about the Iran Crisis. You do know that an embassy, a US embassy is US soil, right? They invaded that soil to get those hostages, for 444 days, Fifty-two American diplomats and citizens were held hostage. Better check up on your definitions.

uno 02-08-2015 09:48 PM

I heard you used to ride a sub.

Vendzilla 02-08-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 20387394)
I heard you used to ride a sub.

Is that a dom sub thing? Then yes, does that turn you on?


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