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JJ Gold 02-06-2015 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 20385394)
Its funny, but its a real situation.


Just Dave

It is more comical than her Twitter feed. That hole is a hack.

The Porn Nerd 02-06-2015 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 20385595)
It's been a long time since I've seen gold and paysite used in the same sentence.

Thanks for the laugh! :upsidedow:1orglaugh

You of all people should know that a domain is about 0.10% of a site's success.

Actually I disagree, and I'm sure the SEO boys would absolutely agree.

For me, the domain name "tells a story", and if you can tell a story - even if that story is total bullshit (bottled water is better than tap water!) - you can make money. Give me a domain like daddy issues dot com and I would tell one hell of a story. LOL

(Changing a brand name tho is a bit different but I hear ya.)

_Lush_ 02-06-2015 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20385547)
This is the two different entities together in California with their son.

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/h...76525851_n.jpg




@NaughtyVisions No underwear! but I missed the 5 minute deadline :(

yea u right thats the kid on her profile pic for tweeter also

https://twitter.com/daddyissues__

Bladewire 02-06-2015 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 20385592)
So not my usual type (him or the clothes), but fuck.

Dude I know right?! After I saw this pic I was hooked :) He has a Model Mayhem, as a photographer, and uses the name Neil Diemond instead of Neil Autry. Maybe he'd model for you guys?

On the straight side of porn I bet they'd make a killing! Maybe Dave can approach them sincerely and hook them up?


JustDaveXxx 02-06-2015 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20385416)
There you have it, all you needed to know within an hour of your post :thumbsup


OK... Your a fucking stud!!

Mental note... Don't piss this guy off! lol


Thank you my friend.:thumbsup



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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 20385435)
Why don't you let him know you are onto his gig and the made up twitter story and address him by his first name Neil. You don't seem that interested in the domain, so why not sell it. Start some negotiations with him and see what happens.


It didn't get that far. When a person comes at me as if they are going to take whats mine, thats what pisses me off the most. That is what I have issue with.


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Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 20385445)
This is an excellent reference.
The person's threat carries no weight.


Starting to think that more after this thread. Thank you for your posts.




Quote:

Originally Posted by _Lush_ (Post 20385483)
Entity Name: VIOLET BENSON, LLC
Entity Number: 201501410548
Date Filed: 01/09/2015
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: 520 S BURNSIDE AVE #7C
Entity City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90036
Agent for Service of Process: ROBIN SAGHIAN
Agent Address: 170 S BEVERLY DR #315
Agent City, State, Zip: BEVERLY HILLS CA 90212

I think there are probably a couple different players involved in the whole trademark thing. The daddy issues apparel duide is based in midwest. The daddy issues girl is in LA. 2 complete different entities. I read her twitter and instagram and she is kinda funny. I figured i would poke her alitle and I sent her an email telling her I had recently purchased the domain daddyissues.com for 8k and will be putting a stripper forum on it and inviting her to join when it is officially open.

Instagram
https://twitter.com/daddyissues__


Nice find! another internet Ninja!!



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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20385590)
Come on man, turn that gold into a paysite!
There's enough teen porn out there, you would clean up. :)

Then if she DOES sue you the publicity will make you money. :)


Im always down for any cool Ideas. ICQ me anything brother. :thumbsup



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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20385569)
she is a moron....the idea was not a bad one...you arent using the site and she wants to incorporate it into what she is doing...id give it a quick lookover and if i thought it had potential Id say

I will not give you control of the domain but I WILL set it up so that you can post to the site via wordpress or something and we will see what it does from there, if it can make money Id be happy to cut her in.

that should have been her approach....

the idea that she can trademark it AFTER you own the domain and then try to take the domain from you is purely retarded....trademark law in this case would come to first commercial use which you could claim simply by purchasing the domain probably.

You neednt worry...if I had a dime for everytime some porn person said they were gonna sue me Id be rich...even Karen Tynan decided that wasnt in her best interest.

dont sweat it...nice url though! if you ever decide to commercialize it as a humor type thing I got lotsa stories i will give ya for it.


Yea, I have to agree with you.


Well on the super bright side; Its not you coming after me! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

That would be the worst case scenario. :thumbsup


Thank you for your input. Good value and things to think about..:thumbsup





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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 20385585)
Offer to rent it to her for $150/mo. That way you retain control, but she can use it... and you've monetized it.

Domain renting has been a thing... well... for as long as there have been domains.

You never give her control of the domain through the registrar. You just point the nameservers to wherever she says and agree to setup any other DNS records she requires (cname, mx, etc.).

Complete a rental agreement (there are plenty around and pretty straight forward to the point where I doubt you'd need an attorney) to remove liability for her content. It's the same as renting equipment to someone. Or anything.

Great Idea!

I did have a tube site approach me with a crazy deal like that 6 month ago, but communications stopped.



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Originally Posted by JJ Gold (Post 20385599)
It is more comical than her Twitter feed. That hole is a hack.


Will check it out.



Thanks to all of you for all of the info you guys dug up. I knew if i posted it on GFY, shit would get done super fast. Thats why I love this place. :thumbsup


Just Dave

Barry-xlovecam 02-06-2015 07:17 PM

Trademark Status & Document Retrieval

Daddy Issues is already a Trademark application (and another registration in default?) and it is registered across multiple TLDs.

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/img/86517583/large?1423274146079

Let us know how it turns out. Because priority of first registration is not a defense in all cases :0; there are some UDRP decisions that say otherwise.

WIPO Overview of WIPO Panel Views on Selected UDRP Questions, Second Edition ("WIPO Overview 2.0")

The Porn Nerd 02-06-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20385642)
Trademark Status & Document Retrieval

Daddy Issues is already a Trademark application (and another registration in default?) and it is registered across multiple TLDs.

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/img/86517583/large?1423274146079

Let us know how it turns out. Because priority of first registration is not a defense in all cases :0; there are some UDRP decisions that say otherwise.

WIPO Overview of WIPO Panel Views on Selected UDRP Questions, Second Edition ("WIPO Overview 2.0")

Great so we start a paysite and then get sued for Trademark? Hmmm.....LOL

Relentless 02-06-2015 07:34 PM

Put SOMETHING on the domain with coming soon on it.

Also be sure to write Hi Violet on the page ;)

dyna mo 02-06-2015 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20385397)
It's a dude

Think about it. Male fashion designer Neil Autrey wants to start female line of clothing called Daddy Issues, creates Violet Benson, LLC as the company name :thumbsup

To make it clearer:

He owns daddyissuesapparel.com

He has a clothing line called Daddy Issues Apparel

this is him model some of his clothes

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/h...92119986_n.jpg


even your domain wouldn't save this tshit !

ErectMedia 02-06-2015 07:47 PM

Save the emails that state "I am going to trademark that name anyway so we shall talk then." in case they claim usage prior to the registration date as that shows they are only trademarking it to try to steal it.

Make sure those sponsored listings on that page don't change to clothing ads, if they do pull that shit

Future reference even if you feel like saying fuck off, someone offered me a million, etc... best response is we have development plans for it so not looking to sell. If you want an offer then change it to well listen to an offer but we have development plans scheduled so unlikely we are looking to sell.

If your truly paranoid then throw up a simple coming soon page...

Coming Soon Templates & Themes | ThemeForest

If it did go somewhere and ya wanna throw some dough at it...

Hit this guy up John Berryhill
Request a 3 person panel, costs more but not one guy deciding then
If ya did lose could file a federal to block transfer until they decide

If ya happened to lose, which you shouldn't...

Naming & shaming scum on the Internet - Tweet, Like, Circulate! HallofShame.com

Barry-xlovecam 02-06-2015 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20385650)
Great so we start a paysite and then get sued for Trademark? Hmmm.....LOL

Read 3.1 of that WIPO Overview and read the cases. That is not the case sometimes.

Of course, anyone that spent serious money starting a business would make sure that the business name they wanted was not a Trademark and trademark that name. Then you are bulletproof in UDRP -- it's 3/3 not 2/3 in domain dispute arbitration and not a lot of bullshit.

If she or her associates did not file that trademark her Twitter account might very well be closed.

BTW, on this new filing there is no Attorney of Record, the lowest initial filing fees for a trademark are: USPTO Fee Schedule | USPTO the process fee in this case may just be a $275 bluff and they won't do the follow through documentation.

Barry-xlovecam 02-06-2015 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20385397)
It's a dude

Think about it. Male fashion designer Neil Autrey wants to start female line of clothing called Daddy Issues, creates Violet Benson, LLC as the company name :thumbsup

To make it clearer:

He owns daddyissuesapparel.com

He has a clothing line called Daddy Issues Apparel

this is him model some of his clothes

I didn't catch that -- my bad.
If he lawyers up on that trademark application -- he may carry through and contest your domain. The guy who has the .net has a good position it's an ongoing domain since 2013?

lagcam 02-06-2015 09:13 PM

I am no expert but I don't think they helped their case in that email when they said that they wanted the domain to extend the writings of the daddyissues__ twitter feed to "entertain people as my hobby" rather than be straight and tell you that it was because they owned the daddyissues clothing brand.

Squirtit has done you a massive favor by connecting the dots here. Kudos to him.:thumbsup

Also, her twitter feed Daddyissues (@Daddyissues__) | Twitter (2 underscores) may be quite funny in places but if she can't even get Daddy Issues (@DaddyIssues) | Twitter or Daddy Issues (@daddyissues_) | Twitter (only 1 underscore) then how on earth can she think she can just take your domain?

Somebody should register daddyissues__.com :) and offer to sell it to her.

TrashyGirl 02-06-2015 10:52 PM

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/h...92119986_n.jpg

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20385653)
even your domain wouldn't save this tshit !

if tshit is a typo, then it's an awesome typo. that tshirt looks like classy cafepress.com couture :helpme

JesseQuinn 02-06-2015 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20385397)
It's a dude

Think about it. Male fashion designer Neil Autrey wants to start female line of clothing called Daddy Issues, creates Violet Benson, LLC as the company name :thumbsup

To make it clearer:

He owns daddyissuesapparel.com

He has a clothing line called Daddy Issues Apparel

damn, nicely done

mafia_man 02-07-2015 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20385343)
Just another idiot that will disappear eventually. And any trademarks that come after your domain registration mean nothing.

This. Trademarks before domain registration can *sometimes* result in a seizure but not after.

Freedom6995 02-07-2015 05:14 AM

Gfy detectives for the win. :thumbsup

ITraffic 02-07-2015 06:01 AM

give the domain to them if they will shoot a hipster porn scene for you in trade. the end.

JJ Gold 02-07-2015 07:43 AM

All the "one liners" on that Twitter feed are lifted and stolen from Some E Cards.

Bitch is a total hack.

Somebody should Tweet her this thread. Outsiders would have their mind blown at how fast and deep the GFY crew can dig into their world.

Squirtit killed it. Well done. :thumbsup

Horatio Caine 02-07-2015 07:59 AM

I don't think they have ground to stand on if you owned the domain way before they file trade mark. I think Madonna lost case like that few years ago.

Horatio Caine 02-07-2015 08:03 AM

So this dude takes plain t-shirts, trunks, tanktops and slaps "Daddy issues" phrase on it or picture of his wife and now has "clothing line"?

OneHungLo 02-07-2015 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 20385778)
This. Trademarks before domain registration can *sometimes* result in a seizure but not after.

So wrong. Just registering a domain does not give you any trademark rights. OP, I would list the domain for $1500 or whatever it would cost them to take it via WIPO. Clearly they have a business and have rights to the mark and will more than likely win and take the domain from you.

mineistaken 02-07-2015 08:36 AM

You should not worry. And how do you know she is a hooker?

SilentKnight 02-07-2015 08:42 AM

Haven't read the entire thread - but the OP sounds like an extortion attempt.

BlackCrayon 02-07-2015 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20385927)
So wrong. Just registering a domain does not give you any trademark rights. OP, I would list the domain for $1500 or whatever it would cost them to take it via WIPO. Clearly they have a business and have rights to the mark and will more than likely win and take the domain from you.

WRONG if you follow udrp cases you'll see 'bad faith' needs to be established and since the domain was registered by dave far before this guys 'daddy issues' clothing line was even an idea there is no bad faith.

OneHungLo 02-07-2015 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20385946)
WRONG if you follow udrp cases you'll see 'bad faith' needs to be established and since the domain was registered by dave far before this guys 'daddy issues' clothing line was even an idea there is no bad faith.

Like vanity.com?

mineistaken 02-07-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20385927)
So wrong. Just registering a domain does not give you any trademark rights. OP, I would list the domain for $1500 or whatever it would cost them to take it via WIPO. Clearly they have a business and have rights to the mark and will more than likely win and take the domain from you.

Ridiculous. In that case people would register trademarks in order to rip off the good domains. You see a great domain, see that no trademark, register a business and trademark and get the domain?
That does not make any sense.

OneHungLo 02-07-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20385954)
Ridiculous. In that case people would register trademarks in order to rip off the good domains. You see a great domain, see that no trademark, register a business and trademark and get the domain?
That does not make any sense.

You cant just register a trademark. You have to actually be using the mark in commerce.

Many of the decisions they make are bullshit. :2 cents: But in the op's case, since they were trying to negotiate, providing they take it to WIPO, he might have a reverse domain hijacking case.

woj 02-07-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20385946)
WRONG if you follow udrp cases you'll see 'bad faith' needs to be established and since the domain was registered by dave far before this guys 'daddy issues' clothing line was even an idea there is no bad faith.

no one brought up a point that it's all fun, games and bullshitting on gfy until you actually have to defend yourself in a case like this...

you read the complaint and you get blind sided by the fact that this guy was selling these t-shirts for the past 15 years at some local flea market... and now what? maybe that's enough to establish common law trademark? now suddenly you have a dilemma, do I hire a lawyer to defend myself? or do I play lawyer myself?

OneHungLo's advice is actually pretty good... best to work things out before laywers get involved... once they get involved, both parties will get fucked hard...

OneHungLo 02-07-2015 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20385957)
no one brought up a point that it's all fun, games and bullshitting on gfy until you actually have to defend yourself in a case like this...

you read the complaint and you get blind sided by the fact that this guy was selling these t-shirts for the past 15 years at some local flea market... and now what? maybe that's enough to establish common law trademark? now suddenly you have a dilemma, do I hire a lawyer to defend myself? or do I play lawyer myself?

OneHungLo's advice is actually pretty good... best to work things out before laywers get involved... once they get involved, both parties will get fucked hard...

Exactly. It's going to cost them (I think it's around $1500) for the WIPO case so if you list it at $1200, and they want it bad enough, it makes sense.

BlackCrayon 02-07-2015 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20385957)
no one brought up a point that it's all fun, games and bullshitting on gfy until you actually have to defend yourself in a case like this...

you read the complaint and you get blind sided by the fact that this guy was selling these t-shirts for the past 15 years at some local flea market... and now what? maybe that's enough to establish common law trademark? now suddenly you have a dilemma, do I hire a lawyer to defend myself? or do I play lawyer myself?

OneHungLo's advice is actually pretty good... best to work things out before laywers get involved... once they get involved, both parties will get fucked hard...

9 times out of 10 if you take a few hours to and do some reading defending yourself in a udrp isn't hard. one thing that seems to help is paying the extra money for a 3 person panel. then your fate doesn't rest in one persons hand. its not enough for the guy to simply say yeah i sold them at flea markets, there has to be actual proof. not just the guys word.

i own a lot of domains and have had a few udrps over the years though i've never bothered defending them. the domains weren't worth the hassle so i just gave them up but should someone do that to one of my premium domains, i would not just lay down and hope for the bare minimum of some pathetic $1200-$1500. there is no 'hard fucking' if you choose to defend yourself in a udrp, it costs nothing and the worst case you lose the domain. it all depends if its worth it or not i guess.

BlackCrayon 02-07-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20385952)
Like vanity.com?

there are lots of bad decisions out there. many cite this as one of the worst decisions but what seemed to fry this guy is the fact that the trademark was registered long before the guy bought vanity.com. however he has taken it to federal court so its not over yet.

dyna mo 02-07-2015 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashyGirl (Post 20385750)
http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/h...92119986_n.jpg



if tshit is a typo, then it's an awesome typo. that tshirt looks like classy cafepress.com couture :helpme

:1orglaugh it was a typo, i didn't even realize ! nice catch

woj 02-07-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20385965)
9 times out of 10 if you take a few hours to and do some reading defending yourself in a udrp isn't hard. one thing that seems to help is paying the extra money for a 3 person panel. then your fate doesn't rest in one persons hand. its not enough for the guy to simply say yeah i sold them at flea markets, there has to be actual proof. not just the guys word.

i own a lot of domains and have had a few udrps over the years though i've never bothered defending them. the domains weren't worth the hassle so i just gave them up but should someone do that to one of my premium domains, i would not just lay down and hope for the bare minimum of some pathetic $1200-$1500. there is no 'hard fucking' if you choose to defend yourself in a udrp, it costs nothing and the worst case you lose the domain. it all depends if its worth it or not i guess.

it costs nothing if you are playing lawyer yourself... if you actually hire one, will cost you an arm and a leg... and paying +$2500 for a 3 person panel, for a domain you picked up for a few hundred bucks few years ago, doesn't sound so great... (even if you win, you are still out of $2500...)

and yea, he needs proof, but if he is actually telling the truth, he will find a way to prove it...you on the hand are not using the domain for anything, so good luck proving that you have legitimate interest in it... (putting up "coming soon" template is not enough..)

it all depends on how much you think the domain is worth.... if you think it's worth $15k, then yea, fuck selling it for $1500... it's probably worth closer to $1500 though, so letting it go doesn't sound that bad of an idea...

freecartoonporn 02-07-2015 10:08 AM

things i would do.
1) transfer domain from godaddy ASAP to some other registraar
2) put up some basic web site on that domain , no ads
3) dont sell the domain yet, this will fuck the new buyer (if buyer is other than that female)
4) get a lawyers input in this.
5) dont delete those mails from that female, and keep an eye on other fake buyers who will try to low-ball it.
6) renew it for 10 next years.
7) get .net .org if they are available.
8) make whois data real n visible.

i dont like cybersquatters but i fucking hate extortionist .

mineistaken 02-07-2015 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20385955)
You cant just register a trademark. You have to actually be using the mark in commerce.

That is what I said. You want some 100K domain name, you register business, slap some tshirts with that name, register trademark and take that 100k name as yours :thumbsup:1orglaugh

mineistaken 02-07-2015 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20385955)
since they were trying to negotiate

They were trying to take it for free and they were surprised that he would want money for it.

OneHungLo 02-07-2015 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20386007)
That is what I said. You want some 100K domain name, you register business, slap some tshirts with that name, register trademark and take that 100k name as yours :thumbsup:1orglaugh

In theory that may work but I would assume an actual business would require a corporation, tax ID, income tax statements, trade of goods, services, and actual revenue, which are things some basement dwelling troll wouldn't be able to produce :winkwink:

freecartoonporn 02-07-2015 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20386007)
That is what I said. You want some 100K domain name, you register business, slap some tshirts with that name, register trademark and take that 100k name as yours :thumbsup:1orglaugh

srsly , is this possible ?

Oracle Porn 02-08-2015 05:52 AM

everything in life is possible, you can sue anyone because the sky is not the right shade of blue, and if the judge woke up with a hangover or just didn't get any from the wife in a while, he might just agree that the sky in not the right shade of blue. shit happens all the time.

p.s. - if I had to put money on it I would bet the domain will stay with dave, you cant just start a company with a name in 2015 and think you will get the .com domain for free because its your god given right, no.


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