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  • G Sharp
    So Fucking Banned
    • May 2002
    • 1343

    #1

    New type of site: TGP that pays you to submit galleries

    Rules

    1) You must be able to prove ownership of content along with 2257 link/info.

    2) Pics/Movies must be of high quality. At least 16 per gallery for photo galleries. At least 8 movie clips for movie galleries.

    3) You submit the html of the gallery. All links must work for at least 30 days after acceptance.

    4) starting with about 10 niches

    Payout:

    You get all clicks

    25 cents per accepted gallery

    Traffic is NOT from TGP but 1) niche opt in 2) constantly scrubbed 3) credit card verified users

    Cheat and you get nuked along with being put on a publicly listed domain black list.


    ANY TAKERS??? Post comments / suggestions/ helpful advise / market analysis / etc Here
  • Hardcore J
    Hardcore 4 Lifeā„¢
    • Mar 2003
    • 2553

    #2
    Why would you pay for TGP galleries? I don't get it.

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    • Sly_RJ
      Live Hard - Die Hard
      • Feb 2002
      • 17042

      #3
      Originally posted by Hardcore J
      Why would you pay for TGP galleries? I don't get it.
      Because people are paying him for access to the galleries.
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      • playa
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2001
        • 6432

        #4
        you'll go broke once the auto submitters spam you

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        • xxxdesign-net
          My hips don't lie
          • Nov 2002
          • 10129

          #5
          25 cents ???

          I need to make and submit 40 galleries to make $10 ???

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          • XxXotic
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            • Jun 2002
            • 8500

            #6
            i'd add it to my submit list, hell whats one more tgp
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            • Ron2k1
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2001
              • 1573

              #7
              So a big part of the traffic is coming from people who have been scrubbed by cc processors like ccbill and ibill?

              Very nice

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              • Rich
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jan 2003
                • 11486

                #8
                Stupid idea. Seriously, 25 cents per gallery, is that what gallery submitters have sunk too? How long is it going to take for that too add up? Also, I can't see your business plan being profitable, I mean why pay for submissions anyway? The easiest thing about starting a TGP is getting submitters, worry about the surfers.
                Last edited by Rich; 03-15-2003, 09:51 AM.

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                • DearAbby
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 979

                  #9
                  Free Porn is a Dying business...

                  (because it's free)

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                  • Ron2k1
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 1573

                    #10
                    Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                    25 cents ???

                    I need to make and submit 40 galleries to make $10 ???

                    Am I very smart or is you very dumb?

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                    • Rich
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11486

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ron2k1


                      Am I very smart or is you very dumb?
                      Explain why he is very dumb, because right now it's looks the other way around.

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                      • xxxdesign-net
                        My hips don't lie
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 10129

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ron2k1


                        Am I very smart or is you very dumb?
                        haha... care to explain this remark? I'll bet on you being dumb!

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                        • Hardcore J
                          Hardcore 4 Lifeā„¢
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 2553

                          #13
                          Well it sounds interesting. Assuming that I can use the same galleries I already submit (with sponsors and such) then I'm willing to give it a shot.

                          Contact me by a method below. I'm not on ICQ right now but will be by around 12PM PST.

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                          • G Sharp
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • May 2002
                            • 1343

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Hardcore J
                            Well it sounds interesting. Assuming that I can use the same galleries I already submit (with sponsors and such) then I'm willing to give it a shot.

                            Contact me by a method below. I'm not on ICQ right now but will be by around 12PM PST.
                            You can use the same galleries with other TGPs it doesn't matter as long as the gallery submitted to us meets the requirements above.

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                            • G Sharp
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • May 2002
                              • 1343

                              #15
                              Originally posted by playa
                              you'll go broke once the auto submitters spam you
                              1) proof of content ownership

                              2) blocks on submission script to weed out abusive submitters

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                              • Sly_RJ
                                Live Hard - Die Hard
                                • Feb 2002
                                • 17042

                                #16
                                It's Saturday, so I'll give you guys a break.

                                From what I understand, he's building a TGP like site. EXCEPT, EVERY surfer has a credit card and is willing to use it. Maybe this is going inside an AVS or even a paysite. The site will probably revolve around these high quality galleries, updated daily. As a surfer, it actually sounds like a decent deal. As a gallery maker, it sounds great. Only high quality traffic, with CCs will be clicking through to my gallery.

                                Plus, $.25 per gallery to boot. Maybe you'll make $30 flat from listings monthly, plus each and every sale you make.
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                                • G Sharp
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 1343

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DearAbby
                                  Free Porn is a Dying business...

                                  (because it's free)

                                  There are many levels to free.

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                                  • playa
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 6432

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by G Sharp


                                    Traffic is NOT from TGP but 1) niche opt in 2) constantly scrubbed 3) credit card verified users

                                    Please explain

                                    sound like good traffic that your giving away

                                    on top of that your paying 25 cents per submitted gallery


                                    so whats up your sleave?

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                                    • Sly_RJ
                                      Live Hard - Die Hard
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 17042

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by playa



                                      Please explain

                                      sound like good traffic that your giving away

                                      on top of that your paying 25 cents per submitted gallery


                                      so whats up your sleave?
                                      He's listing his own galleries and making money on the recurring memberships!

                                      Come on guys...
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                                      • Luke
                                        Registered User
                                        • Apr 2002
                                        • 91

                                        #20
                                        I think it should be the other way around.
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                                        TF TS

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                                        • stocktrader23
                                          Let's do some business.
                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 18781

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Rich


                                          Explain why he is very dumb, because right now it's looks the other way around.
                                          OMFG

                                          Right now you get zip for submitting galleries. He wants to pay a quarter for each one so long as you follow his rules. So now you get 25 cents and you still get gallery traffic that is pre-qualified to boot. Where exactly did you miss this?


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                                          • G Sharp
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • May 2002
                                            • 1343

                                            #22
                                            Exactly -- Win Win Win

                                            1) Submitter wins -- gets filtered traffic with proven history of paying for porn. Plus gets paid accepted submission fee.

                                            2) Surfer wins -- gets high quality porn they want. updated frequently

                                            3) System wins -- (Secret ;))



                                            Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                            It's Saturday, so I'll give you guys a break.

                                            From what I understand, he's building a TGP like site. EXCEPT, EVERY surfer has a credit card and is willing to use it. Maybe this is going inside an AVS or even a paysite. The site will probably revolve around these high quality galleries, updated daily. As a surfer, it actually sounds like a decent deal. As a gallery maker, it sounds great. Only high quality traffic, with CCs will be clicking through to my gallery.

                                            Plus, $.25 per gallery to boot. Maybe you'll make $30 flat from listings monthly, plus each and every sale you make.

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                                            • stocktrader23
                                              Let's do some business.
                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 18781

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                              25 cents ???

                                              I need to make and submit 40 galleries to make $10 ???

                                              Same goes to you. WTF


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                                              • FATPad
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 6693

                                                #24
                                                If the traffic is already pre-filtered and qualified, you won't need to pay people to submit.

                                                Or you shouldn't. Gallery makers should be happy to get listd in a place that has nothing but cc using surfers.
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                                                • stocktrader23
                                                  Let's do some business.
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 18781

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by G Sharp
                                                  Exactly -- Win Win Win

                                                  1) Submitter wins -- gets filtered traffic with proven history of paying for porn. Plus gets paid accepted submission fee.

                                                  2) Surfer wins -- gets high quality porn they want. updated frequently

                                                  3) System wins -- (Secret ;))



                                                  G, I'm not exactly sure what you are doing but I know exactly where you are coming from. I have been working on an idea that I bet is VERY similar to yours. If you want to discuss sometime hit me up on ICQ.

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                                                  • G Sharp
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 1343

                                                    #26
                                                    I also forgot to mention in the "Win" analysis for submitters.

                                                    Another way you win is there's less BW usage for you due to your submission to my system since my traffic uses low BW cuz we filter the hell out of users--leeches are filtered out, "non productive" members are filtered out, plus other tricks up the system's sleeve.

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                                                    • Tuga
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                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 7678

                                                      #27
                                                      So, where do I signup ?

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                                                      • G Sharp
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • May 2002
                                                        • 1343

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by FATPad
                                                        If the traffic is already pre-filtered and qualified, you won't need to pay people to submit.

                                                        Or you shouldn't. Gallery makers should be happy to get listd in a place that has nothing but cc using surfers.
                                                        The payout is for legal purposes.

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                                                        • FATPad
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 6693

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by G Sharp


                                                          The payout is for legal purposes.
                                                          Ahhh. Okay.
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                                                          • G Sharp
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • May 2002
                                                            • 1343

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Tuga
                                                            So, where do I signup ?
                                                            Thanks for your interest, I posted this to gauge interest.

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                                                            • Sly_RJ
                                                              Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 17042

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by FATPad
                                                              If the traffic is already pre-filtered and qualified, you won't need to pay people to submit.

                                                              Or you shouldn't. Gallery makers should be happy to get listd in a place that has nothing but cc using surfers.
                                                              The gallery makers obviously need some kind of bribe because they aren't seeing the great advantages of this opportunity. This thread has sheer proof of that.
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                                                              • FATPad
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                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                • 6693

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                                The gallery makers obviously need some kind of bribe because they aren't seeing the great advantages of this opportunity. This thread has sheer proof of that.
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                                                                • G Sharp
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 1343

                                                                  #33
                                                                  How about this... to sweeten the deal and get the accounts of CONSISTENTLY high quality submitters, we will also offer you a

                                                                  database driven profile of HOW users click on your galleries, what the CTR rate is, focus group/poll info on how effective your galleries are, marketing analysis on how to improve your CTR [layout, colors, photo arrangement, model comments, etc ]

                                                                  Will this work? Is this necessary ie., would you find this useful?

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                                                                  • Rich
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                    • 11486

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                                    OMFG

                                                                    Right now you get zip for submitting galleries. He wants to pay a quarter for each one so long as you follow his rules. So now you get 25 cents and you still get gallery traffic that is pre-qualified to boot. Where exactly did you miss this?
                                                                    The comment I quoted was directed at someone else, not the dude who started this thread. Where exactly did you miss this?

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                                                                    • Rich
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 11486

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I forgot, OMFG

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                                                                      • Rich
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                        • 11486

                                                                        #36
                                                                        G Sharp, if you have all pre qualified surfers, don't bother with the 25 cents/listing. Each listing should already bring in good money for the submitter. Trust me, you'll have peope lined up to submit to a TGP behind an AVS. Keep the 25 cents for yourself.

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                                                                        • NineNine
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                          • 256

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I really don't think that payment is necessary. I have 100K+ galleries in my TGP now, about 1/2 are what I'd consider to be really good quality, and there's no reason to pay gallery makers. The better the galleries, the more they make from the sponsorships inside of 'em. Good quantity traffic + good quality traffic = $$, so I don't know why you'd have to pay for galleries. Hell, gallery makers usually pay to get listed with the big boys because of the opportunity there.

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                                                                          • G Sharp
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                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                            • 1343

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by FATPad
                                                                            If the traffic is already pre-filtered and qualified, you won't need to pay people to submit.

                                                                            Or you shouldn't. Gallery makers should be happy to get listd in a place that has nothing but cc using surfers.
                                                                            You're talking QUANTITY submitters.. I am interested in QUALITY plus CONSISTENT submitters. Moreover, use the system as a marketing research platform for submitters so they can improve their gallery performance to the TPGs they submit to.

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                                                                            • stocktrader23
                                                                              Let's do some business.
                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                              • 18781

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Rich


                                                                              The comment I quoted was directed at someone else, not the dude who started this thread. Where exactly did you miss this?
                                                                              Heh, you called the guy dumb that called another guy dumb for questioning how this is a good idea. If you were referring to his spelling my mistake. If you were referring to him being dumb for thinking this was a good idea the statement still stands.


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                                                                              • iggysick
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                • 8743

                                                                                #40
                                                                                OK!
                                                                                I need some cash and got around 200 gals!
                                                                                Where to post it ! Give me a link!

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                                                                                • G Sharp
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                  • 1343

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Rich
                                                                                  G Sharp, if you have all pre qualified surfers, don't bother with the 25 cents/listing. Each listing should already bring in good money for the submitter. Trust me, you'll have peope lined up to submit to a TGP behind an AVS. Keep the 25 cents for yourself.
                                                                                  I spoke with an attorney regarding this, there is a legal agreement that submitters have to comply with. Also, posting is not your regular TGP--enter a URL and you get listed. No... it actually entails entering your actual gallery code.

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                                                                                  • G Sharp
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                    • 1343

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by iggysick
                                                                                    OK!
                                                                                    I need some cash and got around 200 gals!
                                                                                    Where to post it ! Give me a link!
                                                                                    Not yet, we're still fleshing out the submitter concerns to this project.

                                                                                    on a separate topic...

                                                                                    Another rule: NO AUTOSUBMITTERS. Thanks to the earlier poster who isolated this problem.

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                                                                                    • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                      My hips don't lie
                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                      • 10129

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                                                      OMFG

                                                                                      Right now you get zip for submitting galleries. He wants to pay a quarter for each one so long as you follow his rules. So now you get 25 cents and you still get gallery traffic that is pre-qualified to boot. Where exactly did you miss this?

                                                                                      huh?

                                                                                      My point was, what is up what that $0.25 incentive?
                                                                                      How much galleries do I need to submit per month... then on that number, how many will he publish on his TGP... X $0.25 = what? $10 per month (for 40 listings which is very high)!?

                                                                                      So the question was... will someone really submit there because of the $0.25 incentive?

                                                                                      I didnt say the the pre-qualified traffic wasnt a good idea...

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                                                                                      • G Sharp
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                                        • 1343

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                                                        The gallery makers obviously need some kind of bribe because they aren't seeing the great advantages of this opportunity. This thread has sheer proof of that.
                                                                                        There's extra effort needed because the way the galleries are to be submitted to the system. Plus, focus is on QUALITY gallery providers.

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                                                                                        • Ron2k1
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                                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                                          • 1573

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Rich


                                                                                          Explain why he is very dumb, because right now it's looks the other way around.
                                                                                          [i]Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


                                                                                          haha... care to explain this remark? I'll bet on you being dumb!
                                                                                          As allready explained, you can make MUCH more then$10 because you can still advertise your site and his traffic should convert much better then regular traffic.

                                                                                          nevermind, no offense

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                                                                                          • xdcdave
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                            • 1911

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Rich
                                                                                            G Sharp, if you have all pre qualified surfers, don't bother with the 25 cents/listing. Each listing should already bring in good money for the submitter. Trust me, you'll have peope lined up to submit to a TGP behind an AVS. Keep the 25 cents for yourself.
                                                                                            Rich he said up in the thread that it is for "legal" reasons.

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                                                                                            • Rich
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                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                              • 11486

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by xdcdave


                                                                                              Rich he said up in the thread that it is for "legal" reasons.
                                                                                              didn't notice that, thanks

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                                                                                              • G Sharp
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                • 1343

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                After reading through your comments and also looking at my notes, its a very high possibility that REALLY GOOD [based on CTR ratio, reliability, and user reviews] gallery providers will get their payouts increased from .25 per gallery to as high as $1 per gallery. System income increases as the quality of the content increases so you should share in this as well.

                                                                                                Still gathering info, please post all your concerns. Be as negative as you want just provide reasons and factual examples.

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                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                  • G Sharp
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                                                                                                    • May 2002
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Thanks to Paul for the ICQ: Another rule --- No Free Hosts.

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