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G Sharp 03-15-2003 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
G Sharp, if you have all pre qualified surfers, don't bother with the 25 cents/listing. Each listing should already bring in good money for the submitter. Trust me, you'll have peope lined up to submit to a TGP behind an AVS. Keep the 25 cents for yourself. :winkwink:
I spoke with an attorney regarding this, there is a legal agreement that submitters have to comply with. Also, posting is not your regular TGP--enter a URL and you get listed. No... it actually entails entering your actual gallery code.

G Sharp 03-15-2003 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by iggysick
OK!
I need some cash and got around 200 gals!
Where to post it ! Give me a link!

Not yet, we're still fleshing out the submitter concerns to this project.

on a separate topic...

Another rule: NO AUTOSUBMITTERS. Thanks to the earlier poster who isolated this problem.

xxxdesign-net 03-15-2003 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23


OMFG

Right now you get zip for submitting galleries. He wants to pay a quarter for each one so long as you follow his rules. So now you get 25 cents and you still get gallery traffic that is pre-qualified to boot. Where exactly did you miss this?


huh?

My point was, what is up what that $0.25 incentive?
How much galleries do I need to submit per month... then on that number, how many will he publish on his TGP... X $0.25 = what? $10 per month (for 40 listings which is very high)!?

So the question was... will someone really submit there because of the $0.25 incentive?

I didnt say the the pre-qualified traffic wasnt a good idea...

G Sharp 03-15-2003 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

The gallery makers obviously need some kind of bribe because they aren't seeing the great advantages of this opportunity. This thread has sheer proof of that.

There's extra effort needed because the way the galleries are to be submitted to the system. Plus, focus is on QUALITY gallery providers.

Ron2k1 03-15-2003 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by Rich


Explain why he is very dumb, because right now it's looks the other way around.

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[i]Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


haha... care to explain this remark? I'll bet on you being dumb!

As allready explained, you can make MUCH more then$10 because you can still advertise your site and his traffic should convert much better then regular traffic.

nevermind, no offense

xdcdave 03-15-2003 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
G Sharp, if you have all pre qualified surfers, don't bother with the 25 cents/listing. Each listing should already bring in good money for the submitter. Trust me, you'll have peope lined up to submit to a TGP behind an AVS. Keep the 25 cents for yourself. :winkwink:
Rich he said up in the thread that it is for "legal" reasons.

Rich 03-15-2003 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by xdcdave


Rich he said up in the thread that it is for "legal" reasons.

didn't notice that, thanks

G Sharp 03-15-2003 12:48 PM

After reading through your comments and also looking at my notes, its a very high possibility that REALLY GOOD [based on CTR ratio, reliability, and user reviews] gallery providers will get their payouts increased from .25 per gallery to as high as $1 per gallery. System income increases as the quality of the content increases so you should share in this as well.

Still gathering info, please post all your concerns. Be as negative as you want just provide reasons and factual examples.

EscortBiz 03-15-2003 12:51 PM

This might be the next Microsoft, I want stock options instead of the $0.25

G Sharp 03-15-2003 12:52 PM

Thanks to Paul for the ICQ: Another rule --- No Free Hosts.

Kick Ass Chat 03-15-2003 12:52 PM

Isn't every surfer on the net "Pre Qualified"...I mean doesn't everyone have to pay for internet access??..so therefore they have some method of paying, (if they want to) ???

G Sharp 03-15-2003 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by GirlsFrehahahahas
Isn't every surfer on the net "Pre Qualified"...I mean doesn't everyone have to pay for internet access??..so therefore they have some method of paying, (if they want to) ???
Based on your definition of prequalified the the: .cn leecherz off the movie forums that suck up GBs of movies every day and don't click on banners/text are prequalified

Not really a promising market segment.

nocostporn 03-15-2003 12:56 PM

$10 a gallery and you've got yourself a deal

Tuga 03-15-2003 12:57 PM

It seems like a good ideia, but it's also true that 0.25 will only atract newbies with poor galleries looking to make $5 for a hot dog. I want the CC traffic and the detailed stats, not your money.

G Sharp 03-15-2003 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by nocostporn
$10 a gallery and you've got yourself a deal
Hell, if it hits the right areas and produces the right behavior in the user, why the hell not? :2 cents:

G Sharp 03-15-2003 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
It seems like a good ideia, but it's also true that 0.25 will only atract newbies with poor galleries looking to make $5 for a hot dog. I want the CC traffic and the detailed stats, not your money.
Good feedback. You also get marketing feedback based on the system's logs and AI engine. This should help you generate more money with your galleries at least with the system's traffic. Plus maybe pay you more if your materials does exceptionally well for the system.

G Sharp 03-15-2003 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Tuga
.... 0.25 will only atract newbies with poor galleries looking to make $5 for a hot dog. ....
Although the prime target are experienced gallery producers with a track record of producing galleries that appeal to users, I'm also interested in new guys to the game who may have an "amateur" style that surfers may dig. This is valuable, in providing diversity to the system I'm piecing together.

Tuga 03-15-2003 01:09 PM

That's fine, and if you set a minimum payment of $50 you will never have to pay most of the noobs :P

G Sharp 03-15-2003 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Tuga
That's fine, and if you set a minimum payment of $50 you will never have to pay most of the noobs :P
Actually, I plan to pay on all amounts due, even if its just $.25 Having cash roll over may create accounting issues.

quiet 03-15-2003 01:25 PM

do you currently have any traffic behind this avs(s)/paysite(s)? sorry if it's been answered, i'm heading out and only scanned the thread...

siccmade 03-15-2003 01:26 PM

I am VERY interested, please contact me on ICQ

G Sharp 03-15-2003 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
do you currently have any traffic behind this avs(s)/paysite(s)? sorry if it's been answered, i'm heading out and only scanned the thread...
Yep but not aggregated within an unified system. I posted this thread to gauge interest/issues that need to be addressed in building such a unified system.

iggysick 03-15-2003 01:51 PM

Ok :)
1000s of rules and we didn't start anything :)

StupidNewbie 03-15-2003 01:54 PM

Awesome so now you'll pay people to redirect your traffic to incest toplists. Fantastic news!

blofer80 03-15-2003 01:57 PM

Gsharp - Please msg me on ICQ 168719446,
Thanks.

GoLiaT 03-15-2003 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by G Sharp
I also forgot to mention in the "Win" analysis for submitters.

Another way you win is there's less BW usage for you due to your submission to my system since my traffic uses low BW cuz we filter the hell out of users--leeches are filtered out, "non productive" members are filtered out, plus other tricks up the system's sleeve.

why not use the 10000000 sponsors hosted gallerys
thats floating around and make the $$$ yourself ?

421Fill 03-15-2003 02:09 PM

I think it sounds like an excellent idea, and I am particularily interested in the data that we as submitters can attain... However, this part about the payment being for "Legal Reasons".. What exactly are the legal ramifications? I'm interested to see the contract that I'd be signing... What are you really "buying" for the $0.25 and even $1.00 per gallery?

ownerland 03-15-2003 02:16 PM

Easy to post on 21site

MattO 03-15-2003 02:22 PM

Hmm... would good sponsor hosted galleries qualify?

freeadultcontent 03-15-2003 02:24 PM

G sharp hit me up on icq please.

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Nysus 03-15-2003 02:34 PM

I don't think he's expecting these galleries submtited to be exclusive to his site... I know many people have thought about doing the same thing, though there are a lot of factors to consider.

1 Positive - You get high-quality galleries because you get instant daily submitters...

1 Negative - You'll have to weed out a lot of constant shit build up from people trying to get a quick 25 cents....

Cheers,
Matt

G Sharp 03-15-2003 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo
I think it sounds like an excellent idea, and I am particularily interested in the data that we as submitters can attain... However, this part about the payment being for "Legal Reasons".. What exactly are the legal ramifications? I'm interested to see the contract that I'd be signing... What are you really "buying" for the $0.25 and even $1.00 per gallery?
Legal protections to cover my ass re 1) your right to use your content 2) my right to link to your content

SquarePants 03-15-2003 02:59 PM

Interesting Idea G-Sharp, keep us posted as to what is next. :thumbsup

Lizzie 03-15-2003 03:05 PM

Sounds very interesting.

klik 03-15-2003 03:17 PM

Sounds like a good idea... icq me when you're ready.. I'll submit on a regular schedule.. clean galleries always.

sexpress 03-15-2003 03:44 PM

I´m interested, I have 4 paysites and I shoot the content myself, so my gallerys would be for these 4 sites with exclusive content.

I have a fifth site coming next month, really exclusive fetish/niche stuff in that one!

Hit me up when you get things going!

:thumbsup

G Sharp 03-15-2003 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by StupidNewbie
Awesome so now you'll pay people to redirect your traffic to incest toplists. Fantastic news!
That's what a ban list is for.

Asking for proof of content ownership would scare many of these type of dudez off ... :)

Rictor 03-15-2003 04:34 PM

I'm willing to submit Asian galleries to you with my own exclusive content.

G Sharp 03-15-2003 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoLiaT


why not use the 10000000 sponsors hosted gallerys
thats floating around and make the $$$ yourself ?

This is a good idea IF

sponsor is relatively new and using relatively fresh exclusive content

However, the bulk of sponsor hosted galleries out there have done heavy rotations through TGPs and other marketing channels already.

G Sharp 03-15-2003 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by Ron2k1
So a big part of the traffic is coming from people who have been scrubbed by cc processors like ccbill and ibill?

Very nice

Not quite. But interesting, possibly expensive idea. I have a cheaper version. What I actually meant by "scrubbed" is that the database scrubs leechez/unproductive users on a continuing basis.

Another concern this raises is how to find relatively "green" traffic --ie., first or second time porn buyers that are relatively fresh to the game instead of jaded leacherz that won't pay anything EVER.

Using scrub traffic may not be discriminating enough.


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