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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184
    #1

    Darwinism lacks explanation for new discovered life that has not evolved for >2 Billion years

    An international team of scientists has discovered the greatest absence of evolution ever reported — a type of deep-sea microorganism that appears not to have evolved over more than 2 billion years.


    “It seems astounding that life has not evolved for more than 2 billion years — nearly half the history of the Earth,” J. William Schopf, a professor at the University of California at Los Angeles, and the study’s lead author, said in a statement.

    “Given that evolution is a fact, this lack of evolution needs to be explained.”


    Scientists discover organism that hasn't evolved in more than 2 billion years | UCLA
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    • michael.kickass
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Mar 2009
      • 11039
      #2
      Just quotin'

      "Research actually provides further support for Darwin,..."
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        • dyna mo
          just a fucking jerk
          • Dec 2008
          • 68184
          #3
          Originally posted by michael.kickass
          Just quotin'

          "Research actually provides further support for Darwin,..."
          just re-quoting the study's lead scientist's comment I included in my OP

          “Given that evolution is a fact, this lack of evolution needs to be explained.”

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            • Harmon
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              • Mar 2004
              • 20012
              #4
              Originally posted by michael.kickass
              Just quotin'

              "Research actually provides further support for Darwin,..."
              It's at the top of the article

              Amazing how people read into shit and forget the bullet points.

              Ama-ZING!
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                • Bladewire
                  StraightBro
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 56228
                  #5
                  From your link:


                  ?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,? said Schopf, who also is director of UCLA?s Center for the Study of Evolution and the Origin of Life. The environment in which these microorganisms live has remained essentially unchanged for 3 billion years, he said.

                  ?These microorganisms are well-adapted to their simple, very stable physical and biological environment,? he said. ?If they were in an environment that did not change but they nevertheless evolved, that would have shown that our understanding of Darwinian evolution was seriously flawed.?


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                    • 420
                      cuck
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 11571
                      #6
                      When one organism "evolves" into another the original isn't wiped out. If the newly adapted organism doesn't consume all the resources, they'd both have a chance for survival. I don't believe evolution always happens out of necessity.
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                        • MaDalton
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                          • Feb 2004
                          • 39861
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Squirtit
                          From your link:


                          ?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,? said Schopf, who also is director of UCLA?s Center for the Study of Evolution and the Origin of Life. The environment in which these microorganisms live has remained essentially unchanged for 3 billion years, he said.

                          ?These microorganisms are well-adapted to their simple, very stable physical and biological environment,? he said. ?If they were in an environment that did not change but they nevertheless evolved, that would have shown that our understanding of Darwinian evolution was seriously flawed.?
                          ^^^^^this
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                            • crockett
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                              • May 2003
                              • 76818
                              #8
                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                              just re-quoting the study's lead scientist's comment I included in my OP

                              “Given that evolution is a fact, this lack of evolution needs to be explained.”

                              To further quote...

                              “The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,” said Schopf, who also is director of UCLA’s Center for the Study of Evolution and the Origin of Life. The environment in which these microorganisms live has remained essentially unchanged for 3 billion years, he said.

                              “These microorganisms are well-adapted to their simple, very stable physical and biological environment,” he said. “If they were in an environment that did not change but they nevertheless evolved, that would have shown that our understanding of Darwinian evolution was seriously flawed.”

                              ie their environment didn't change, so there was no stimulus to inspire any need to evolve.
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                                • ottopottomouse
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                                  • Jan 2010
                                  • 13177
                                  #9
                                  Once you evolve to being perfect for your environment and the environment isn't subject to any changes there is no need to continue to mutate.
                                  ↑ see post ↑
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                                    • dyna mo
                                      just a fucking jerk
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 68184
                                      #10
                                      lolz, it appears y'all are not familiar with the socratic method of creating dialogue around critical thinking.

                                      the simple fact is that this discovery allowed further proofing of the theory. FYI, it's still a fucking theory and consequently, this discovery allowed further discussion amongst the intelligent.


                                      y'all are all too busy playing gotcha. have fun with that!

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                                        • MaDalton
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                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 39861
                                          #11
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                                            • dyna mo
                                              just a fucking jerk
                                              • Dec 2008
                                              • 68184
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Harmon
                                              It's at the top of the article

                                              Amazing how people read into shit and forget the bullet points.

                                              Ama-ZING!
                                              Originally posted by Squirtit
                                              From your link:


                                              ?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,? said Schopf, who also is director of UCLA?s Center for the Study of Evolution and the Origin of Life. The environment in which these microorganisms live has remained essentially unchanged for 3 billion years, he said.

                                              ?These microorganisms are well-adapted to their simple, very stable physical and biological environment,? he said. ?If they were in an environment that did not change but they nevertheless evolved, that would have shown that our understanding of Darwinian evolution was seriously flawed.?
                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                              ^^^^^this
                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                              To further quote...

                                              ?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,? said Schopf, who also is director of UCLA?s Center for the Study of Evolution and the Origin of Life. The environment in which these microorganisms live has remained essentially unchanged for 3 billion years, he said.

                                              ?These microorganisms are well-adapted to their simple, very stable physical and biological environment,? he said. ?If they were in an environment that did not change but they nevertheless evolved, that would have shown that our understanding of Darwinian evolution was seriously flawed.?

                                              ie their environment didn't change, so there was no stimulus to inspire any need to evolve.



                                              it's as if y'all think I stopped reading the article on this right after the quote I used.

                                              the fact is (from the article)::::::::::::
                                              Charles Darwin?s writings on evolution focused much more on species that had changed over time than on those that hadn?t. So how do scientists explain a species living for so long without evolving?

                                              can you brainiacs see the difference here?

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                                                • aka123
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                                                  • Jul 2014
                                                  • 4450
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                  An international team of scientists has discovered the greatest absence of evolution ever reported ? a type of deep-sea microorganism that appears not to have evolved over more than 2 billion years.


                                                  ?It seems astounding that life has not evolved for more than 2 billion years ? nearly half the history of the Earth,? J. William Schopf, a professor at the University of California at Los Angeles, and the study?s lead author, said in a statement.

                                                  ?Given that evolution is a fact, this lack of evolution needs to be explained.?


                                                  Scientists discover organism that hasn't evolved in more than 2 billion years | UCLA
                                                  So, how this contradicts with evolution?

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                                                    • dyna mo
                                                      just a fucking jerk
                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                      • 68184
                                                      #14
                                                      Darwinism explains evolution, it does not directly explain the lack of evolution.

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                                                        • 420
                                                          cuck
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 11571
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by aka123
                                                          So, how this contradicts with evolution?
                                                          It doesn't contradict evolution or god. God created everything and then it started changing for mostly unknown reasons.
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                                                            • dyna mo
                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                              • 68184
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by aka123
                                                              So, how this contradicts with evolution?
                                                              where did I say it contradicts evolution?

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                                                                • MaDalton
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                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 39861
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo


                                                                  it's as if y'all think I stopped reading the article on this right after the quote I used.

                                                                  the fact is (from the article)::::::::::::



                                                                  can you brainiacs see the difference here?
                                                                  it says right there - no pressure, no evolving
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                                                                    • Bladewire
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                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 56228
                                                                      #18
                                                                      ^^^^^this ?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,?


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                                                                        • aka123
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                                                                          • Jul 2014
                                                                          • 4450
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                          From your link:


                                                                          ?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,? said Schopf, who also is director of UCLA?s Center for the Study of Evolution and the Origin of Life. The environment in which these microorganisms live has remained essentially unchanged for 3 billion years, he said.

                                                                          ?These microorganisms are well-adapted to their simple, very stable physical and biological environment,? he said. ?If they were in an environment that did not change but they nevertheless evolved, that would have shown that our understanding of Darwinian evolution was seriously flawed.?
                                                                          That depends what is counted as "environment", as the competition inside the specie is one primary driver for evolution. You know, bigger penises, feathers, more bright colours and so on. That was sexually oriented, but also competition for food etc. Evolution is not just that you adapt into some environment and live happily ever after in some harmony.

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                                                                            • michael.kickass
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Mar 2009
                                                                              • 11039
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Maybe the organism reached its 'evolutionary peak' and can't evolve any further.

                                                                              BTW, I believe you read the whole article, and I also believe that it'd be wise if someone hands Harmon a dick.
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                                                                                • aka123
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                  where did I say it contradicts evolution?
                                                                                  I kept the "lacks" part as that kind of argument.

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                                                                                    • dyna mo
                                                                                      just a fucking jerk
                                                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                                                      • 68184
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                                      ?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,?
                                                                                      that's what's so fun about this discovery. Darwinism is the theory of evolution not the theory of the lack of evolution. By making this amazing discovery, science works from the exact opposite view to add proof to the theory. By creating dialogue and asking questions re: Darwinism, science worked.

                                                                                      I like that.

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                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                                          • 68184
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          OK, I'll add some more to the dialogue now.

                                                                                          This life form survived 5 mass extinction events.

                                                                                          Are we to believe its environment was so completely protected from these events that consequently, absolutely zero evolution was required?

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                                                                                            • Grapesoda
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                              • 46238
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                              An international team of scientists has discovered the greatest absence of evolution ever reported ? a type of deep-sea microorganism that appears not to have evolved over more than 2 billion years.


                                                                                              ?It seems astounding that life has not evolved for more than 2 billion years ? nearly half the history of the Earth,? J. William Schopf, a professor at the University of California at Los Angeles, and the study?s lead author, said in a statement.

                                                                                              ?Given that evolution is a fact, this lack of evolution needs to be explained.?


                                                                                              Scientists discover organism that hasn't evolved in more than 2 billion years | UCLA
                                                                                              simple explanation: the environment did not change hence the organism did not change

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                                                                                                • 420
                                                                                                  cuck
                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                  • 11571
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                  that's what's so fun about this discovery. Darwinism is the theory of evolution not the theory of the lack of evolution. By making this amazing discovery, science works from the exact opposite view to add proof to the theory. By creating dialogue and asking questions re: Darwinism, science worked.

                                                                                                  I like that.
                                                                                                  What's to say this thing didn't actually evolve into a whale and there was never enough competition for resources to wipe out the original creature?

                                                                                                  I can't see how evolution would work where every human for instance would instantly change (evolve) into a new species. I assume there'd be a small pack of mutated humans that could theoretically evolve, reproduce and eventually wipe out the original humans.
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                                                                                                    • dyna mo
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                                                                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                                                                      • 68184
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by michael.kickass
                                                                                                      Maybe the organism reached its 'evolutionary peak' and can't evolve any further.

                                                                                                      BTW, I believe you read the whole article, and I also believe that it'd be wise if someone hands Harmon a dick.
                                                                                                      it would be interesting to find out how much this organism did evolve prior to not evolving..

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                                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                                                          • 68184
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                          simple explanation: the environment did not change hence the organism did not change
                                                                                                          5 mass extinction events during this 2 billion years. I'm guessing it was deep enough under whatever each and every time that its environment was completely unchanged. food sources, everything.

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                                                                                                            • michael.kickass
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Mar 2009
                                                                                                              • 11039
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                              Are we to believe its environment was so completely protected from these events that consequently, absolutely zero evolution was required?
                                                                                                              Why not? Stromatolites were the dominant form of life on Earth for over 4 billion years and their environment did change since then. However, stromatolites have remained the same anyway. Fortunately for all complex life forms something happened that forced evolution to take a leap forward.
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                                                                                                                • dyna mo
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                                                                                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                  • 68184
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by 420
                                                                                                                  What's to say this thing didn't actually evolve into a whale and there was never enough competition for resources to wipe out the original creature?

                                                                                                                  I can't see how evolution would work where every human for instance would instantly change (evolve) into a new species. I assume there'd be a small pack of mutated humans that could theoretically evolve, reproduce and eventually wipe out the original humans.
                                                                                                                  exactly. I'm with you, there are so many different types of discussions to have over this discovery.

                                                                                                                  1/2 the time of Earth's existence and these guys chilled out that whole time! I would bet there is a lot to learn from this/

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                                                                                                                    • aka123
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                                                                                                                      • 4450
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                      OK, I'll add some more to the dialogue now.

                                                                                                                      This life form survived 5 mass extinction events.

                                                                                                                      Are we to believe its environment was so completely protected from these events that consequently, absolutely zero evolution was required?
                                                                                                                      Protected? How about fit already? You know, for example humans have habitated most of the Earth, at least in terms of areas not under water. That hasn't happened by having significant evolution, we were already fit. Main thing that has changed has been skin colour; that is pretty much it.

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                                                                                                                        • 420
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                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                          • 11571
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                          5 mass extinction events during this 2 billion years. I'm guessing it was deep enough under whatever each and every time that its environment was completely unchanged. food sources, everything.
                                                                                                                          Some inventions are timeless and others need tweaking. Evolution probably works like earth gods. Lots of random chance is involved.
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                                                                                                                            • aka123
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                              it would be interesting to find out how much this organism did evolve prior to not evolving..
                                                                                                                              You can see it by looking at it.

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                                                                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by 420
                                                                                                                                  It doesn't contradict evolution or god. God created everything and then it started changing for mostly unknown reasons.
                                                                                                                                  Do you have any proof of this "god"?
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                                                                                                                                    • aka123
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                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2014
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by michael.kickass
                                                                                                                                      Why not? Stromatolites were the dominant form of life on Earth for over 4 billion years and their environment did change since then. However, stromatolites have remained the same anyway. Fortunately for all complex life forms something happened that forced evolution to take a leap forward.
                                                                                                                                      Or in other words, stromatolites might have evolved, but those that did evolve, ain't stromatolites anymore.

                                                                                                                                      Maybe we are the evolved stromatolites.

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                                                                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                          • 68184
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by michael.kickass
                                                                                                                                          Why not? Stromatolites were the dominant form of live on Earth for over 4 billion years and their environment did change since then. However, stromatolites have remained the same anyway. Fortunately for all complex life forms something happened that forced evolution to take a leap forward.
                                                                                                                                          don't get me wrong, I *think* I understand how rare life is, but surviving 5 mass extinction events and evolving is crazy enough, to survive all those with absolutely zero evolution is truly astounding !!

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                                                                                                                                            • Struggle4Bucks
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                                                                                                                                              • May 2011
                                                                                                                                              • 3615
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                                                                                              From your link:


                                                                                                                                              ?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,? said Schopf, who also is director of UCLA?s Center for the Study of Evolution and the Origin of Life. The environment in which these microorganisms live has remained essentially unchanged for 3 billion years, he said..?


                                                                                                                                              This was the same thing that immediatly came into my mind when i read OP's post....
                                                                                                                                              The logic of life is so simple....
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                                                                                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                  OK, I'll add some more to the dialogue now.

                                                                                                                                                  This life form survived 5 mass extinction events.

                                                                                                                                                  Are we to believe its environment was so completely protected from these events that consequently, absolutely zero evolution was required?
                                                                                                                                                  It lives in mud.. Mud is an environment of dirt and water. Has dirt & water changed over the last 2 billion years?
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                                                                                                                                                    • MaDalton
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                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 39861
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      while we're at it someone please explain the platypus
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                                                                                                                                                        • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          ADAPTATION is not EVOLUTION.

                                                                                                                                                          Love these debates. LOL

                                                                                                                                                          Also, the lack of something does not prove the existence of a thing.
                                                                                                                                                          Show me the missing link then maybe I will buy evolution.

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                                                                                                                                                            • dyna mo
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                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                              • 68184
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by aka123
                                                                                                                                                              Protected? How about fit already? You know, for example humans have habitated most of the Earth, at least in terms of areas not under water. That hasn't happened by having significant evolution, we were already fit. Main thing that has changed has been skin colour; that is pretty much it.
                                                                                                                                                              that's a good point, this organism is even more impressive for future study.

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                                                                                                                                                                • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                  just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                  • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                                                  It lives in mud.. Mud is an environment of dirt and water. Has dirt & water changed over the last 2 billion years?
                                                                                                                                                                  at chernobyl it has.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • 420
                                                                                                                                                                      cuck
                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 11571
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                                                      Do you have any proof of this "god"?
                                                                                                                                                                      I didn't have my camera when I met him. He's a pretty cool guy though; great inventor.

                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                                                                      ADAPTATION is not EVOLUTION.

                                                                                                                                                                      Love these debates. LOL

                                                                                                                                                                      Also, the lack of something does not prove the existence of a thing.
                                                                                                                                                                      Show me the missing link then maybe I will buy evolution.

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                                                                                                                                                                      I didn't go to school so... This is the first I'm hearing about evolution.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • michael.kickass
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2009
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Meteorites and asteroids transport living microorganisms throughout space. They don't evolve during this trip (not that we know of). Perhaps something triggers these microorganisms' 'evolution process' and that something has likely not happened.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                                                                              Living The Dream
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                                                                                                                                              • 19785
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 420
                                                                                                                                                                              I didn't have my camera when I met him. He's a pretty cool guy though; great inventor.



                                                                                                                                                                              I didn't go to school so... This is the first I'm hearing about evolution.
                                                                                                                                                                              Oh, then let me explain it to you:

                                                                                                                                                                              We all came from monkeys - yet monkeys are all around us still. Hmmm....never mind, we all came from monkeys.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • 420
                                                                                                                                                                                  cuck
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 11571
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                                                                                  Oh, then let me explain it to you:

                                                                                                                                                                                  We all came from monkeys - yet monkeys are all around us still. Hmmm....never mind, we all came from monkeys.

                                                                                                                                                                                  PLANET OF THE APES 4EVER!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                  I know about that part.

                                                                                                                                                                                  While I was skipping school I watched all of katt williams' stand up. Katt Williams - Evolution & Athiests - YouTube
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • trevesty
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 3810
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                                                                                                                                      From your link:


                                                                                                                                                                                      ?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,? said Schopf, who also is director of UCLA?s Center for the Study of Evolution and the Origin of Life. The environment in which these microorganisms live has remained essentially unchanged for 3 billion years, he said.

                                                                                                                                                                                      ?These microorganisms are well-adapted to their simple, very stable physical and biological environment,? he said. ?If they were in an environment that did not change but they nevertheless evolved, that would have shown that our understanding of Darwinian evolution was seriously flawed.?
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                                                                                          ADAPTATION is not EVOLUTION.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Love these debates. LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                          Also, the lack of something does not prove the existence of a thing.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Show me the missing link then maybe I will buy evolution.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Harmon
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 20012
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Oh my God this thread HAS to be embarrassing to OP.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Quick, msg a mod and hope they delete it
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Bladewire
                                                                                                                                                                                                  StraightBro
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 56228
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                                  that's a good point, this organism is even more impressive for future study.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  It would be more to our advantage to intensly study the microbiome living on our species and how it impacts our evolution, then that of deep see mud.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                                      just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Harmon
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh my God this thread HAS to be embarrassing to OP.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Quick, msg a mod and hope they delete it
                                                                                                                                                                                                      you're bringing God into a thread about evolution. yes, that's embarrassing to me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      not enough to have my fun chatty thread deleted though.

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