Mike Tyson at his peak vs. Bruce Lee at his. Who do you think would win?
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If Tyson could get close enough to land a full swing, game over for Lee... but id think lee could chip away at tyson enough to slow him down, while defending against a tyson haymaker.. Lee wins in 6Quality hardlinks & contextuals $1 ea, traffic sending & PR Email --> [email protected]
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Mike Tyson
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Boxers always lose. Much too easy to attack their legs. The only way Tyson wins is if the fight has to be held with boxing rules in place.Comment
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correction... shitty boxers who couldn't hack it as a pro in a depleted competitive sport always lose..
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lee easy, so much faster
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I'd have to go for Tyson, I've always had a nagging feeling that Bruce Lee's reputation and mythology is bigger than the man.Free traffic and backlinks from one of the fastest growing adult pinsites on the net - SAUCY PICTURES!
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A lot would depend on the cirumstances, rules (if in a ring), whether or not anyone went for the other person's knees, etc.
In general, though, boxing and wrestling tend to do better in real fights than other approaches.Comment
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Bruce Lee, without question. Boxers are not trained to deal with this.
Lol, I'd like to see Mike do some two finger pushups.
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No. The biggest best boxer in history would get his ass kicked by an average MMA fighter. It has nothing to do with with skill level or power. Boxers are not trained to protect their legs at all. As soon as they get 'in the pocket' a good MMA fighter will kick the hell out of their legs, and if they rush forward with no wrestling or judo background a good MMA fighter will have the boxer on their back either submitted or eating elbows very quickly.
It's like saying who would win, the world's best knife fighter or an ordinary guy with a shotgun. Unless the guy with the shotgun agrees to only use it as a melee weapon, that world class knife fighter is about to be a big wet mess on the ground.
Now if Tyson trained for MMA when he was in his prime... that's a very different discussion.
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Tyson was 5'11" and 220lbs at his prime. Bruce Lee was 5'6" and 135lbs. Even if Bruce could hit him he probably couldn't hurt him. Tyson however would only need one punch to stop him. Bruce would do a leg kick for no damage and then Tyson would flatten him. Tyson was fast as fuck in his prime. Bruce looked good in a movie, Tyson was devastating in a real fight. Beating somebody with a significant size advantage would only work if the smaller person had a huge skill advantage.Comment
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Have your nephew kick you as hard as he can in the same spot five or six times. Then let me know how a smaller person blasting your weight-bearing limb does 'no damage' - even someone 100 pounds lighter than you can wreck your leg pretty quickly if you are leaning forward on your front foot and planting to throw a haymaker.
Royce Gracie submitted men much larger than he is... 2 or 3 in the same day of the tournament. Here is a video of James "Lights Out" Toney (with 11 titles in 5 Boxing weight classes including 2 current Heavyweight belts at that time) fighting Randy Couture who was a FORMER champion when they fought:
029 - Randy Couture Vs James Toney - UFC 118 - 28-08-2010 - Vídeo Dailymotion
Shoot, take down, mount, choke.... and Toney was the much 'bigger man' with a 17 pound advantage at the weigh-in and probably closer to 25 pound advantage at fight time.
You don't win by bringing a knife to a gun fight...
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I'd say it would depend on where it was held. If it were in a boxing ring I would say Tyson. Lee is fast and could move, but Tyson in his prime was very quick. If Tyson can weather a leg kick or two and close the distance the fight is over.
If it were in a larger area where Lee had more room to move I think he would do a lot better. Still not sure he would win, but it would be a longer, closer fight.Comment
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Here is what happened when Muhammed Ali decided to let Antonio Inoki kick his legs for 15 rounds...
The Joke That Almost Ended Ali?s Career
Bleeding legs, infections, almost has to have a leg amputated and according to boxing historians Ali's career was never able to recover. He threw a couple of punches during the entire match because he has no take down defense, no ground game, no concept of how to check kicks and his hands were neutralized by the position of the fighters being dictated by Inoki the entire time...Comment
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That article is pure BS. Ali's ignorance and arrogance and ignoring the blood clots he had in his legs fucked him up.. not the retarded kicks that clown was throwing.
He wasn't beat by skill or hurt by effective kicks. You can watch the youtube Ali/Inoki video... then compare that to ANY random muay thai fight between two decent fighters and see what actual leg kicks look like, and how many get thrown in a real fight.
I just watched that Ali fight and it was completely silly and a total waste of time. Nothing happened and even the crowd was chanting "money back, money back".
And for the record...Who was Bruce Lee? He was an actor and a lightweight. Just a random guy who invented his own fighting style based loosely on what he grew up with, promoted it and has really only fought in movies and in myths and legends. Thinking he can pull off any effective techniques against a rabid, heavy handed and borderline psychotic heavy weight boxer that moved and punched with the speed of a middle weight is not realistic. Anyone that is not delusional in martial arts knows that the advantage will usually go to experience, not technique/style. Experience being a career of actual fighting, actual constant live sparring and actual live fights. Chinese styles are laughable. Thats why the Chinese military created a version of Sanshou which is basically Chinese boxing (similar to Muay Thai) with take downs and throws... and they didn't waste their time trying to teach military the endless litany of ineffective techniques, stances and movements that are prevalent in all traditional Chinese martial arts. Bruce Lee's who thing was that traditional Chinese martial arts were silly and impractical in almost every aspect..
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Bruce would kill him.
Mass and brute force are no match for skills and knowledge of the weaknesses and vulnerabilities of the human body.Comment
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What "knowledge" did the non fighter have about the "weakness and vulnerabilities" of the human body that the well experienced professional fighter, and Olympic athlete that spent his time hurting and knocking human bodies unconscious, one after another, have?
I love martial arts, that's why i understand to always bet on the guy who actually fights against the guy who actually didn't..
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Basically, I agree 100% with the squealer.
I know one thing....when u first are taught to box they explain , "never fight out of your weight class
When Tyson came to London I sat with Alan Minter (lost undisputed world middleweight championship to Hagler) at Sporting Club boxing dinner and then met Tyson. Who was incredibly polite and charming frankly. BTW He is not a dummy, he could win "Mastermind" if he did specialist subject "The history of Boxing"
Minter said over dinner "Bruno should never be allowed into the ring with Tyson , Tyson may kill him , this kid is something else"
Tyson was/is for real...Bruce was a 140lbs movie star. Tyson if he connected with an uppercut would literally kill Bruce.
Now.....
Could Tyson at his peak beat Ali at his peak.....an interesting match....
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Roots of Fight presents Bruce Lee's? JEET KUNE DO influence on MMA featuring Mike Tyson - YouTube
Scroll to 2:05 mins and listen to what Mike Tyson talks about Bruce Lee. Now lets not compare Bruce Lee with other best fighters in the world. The more appropriate approach is Bruce Lee is like a philosopher and can be a teacher who give good mental guidance to all fighters. A good fighter not only good at using his/her physical body to attack/defend, but same time know how to think.Comment
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Did you watch the James Toney vs Couture fight I linked above?
Toney beat Holyfield in a boxing match... Holyfield beat Tyson multiple times. Couture destroyed Toney. Not because Couture is a better boxer, but because boxers... ALL BOXERS... have no take down defense, no ability to check kicks, little or no wrestling background, no submission skills and no submission defense skills.
I have no doubt Tyson could have learned to fight in MMA... but he didn't. This video shows what happens when one combatant is trying to box, and the other knows how to change levels... execute a takedown... utilize a ground game and lock in a submission.
029 - Randy Couture Vs James Toney - UFC 118 - 28-08-2010 - Vídeo Dailymotion
You are literally telling one guy 'you can only throw punches' and telling the other guy "throw kicks, punches, use take downs, go for submissions, etc etc etc" - it's not a fair fight because they aren't using the same skill sets.Comment
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Jose Aldo may not be the best MMA fighter of all time. Floyd Mayweather is one of the best pound for pound boxers of all time. They both weigh around 150. Aldo would put Mayweather in the hospital within 3 rounds. It's not because Aldo is great, it's because Floyd can't check leg kicks, defend a takedown, avoid a submission or wrestle well enough to keep the fight standing.... and Floyd is smart enough to know that so he would never accept the fight.Comment
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This is a ludicrous assumption. Do you honestly think that Mike Tyson, the angry kid from the streets of brooklyn, who was raised by a boxing manager practically couldn't handle himself in a street fight? please..No. The biggest best boxer in history would get his ass kicked by an average MMA fighter. It has nothing to do with with skill level or power. Boxers are not trained to protect their legs at all. As soon as they get 'in the pocket' a good MMA fighter will kick the hell out of their legs, and if they rush forward with no wrestling or judo background a good MMA fighter will have the boxer on their back either submitted or eating elbows very quickly.
It's like saying who would win, the world's best knife fighter or an ordinary guy with a shotgun. Unless the guy with the shotgun agrees to only use it as a melee weapon, that world class knife fighter is about to be a big wet mess on the ground.
Now if Tyson trained for MMA when he was in his prime... that's a very different discussion.
To deal with what? kicks from a 130 lbs man? nah, i think he'd be fine, maybe a bruise..
yeah, comes in handy if you need to give two finger hj's after the fight i'm sure.
Bruce Lee was awesome. I have always been a huge fan of his, but he was a showman above all. He had some great techniques and philosophies along the way but at the end of the day his invincibility was nothing more than a small mans wet dream at best.. What most people don't understand about Tyson was that he was SO dominant when he came around that he pretty much wrecked the whole talent pool that was there at the time. He fought some damn good fighters but kicked the shit out of them so bad they walked away from the sport all together. His demons got the better of him in the end but it was an incredible thing to watch before that--oh, and no stuntmen or second takes..webmaster at pimproll dot comComment
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Nick is harassing me on skype. To be clear, my comments are based on them fighting in a ring or cage with a ref... Not in a warehouse with zero rules or in a kitchen with broadswords.Comment
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Under no rules, the guy closer to the weapon almost always wins Nick.
So I'll go with that...Comment
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Tyson all day long. And about the kicking... is only bruce lee allowed to kick or something? I'm too young to remember Ali (I'm 42) but Tyson... damn, that man in his prime was something else.Comment
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Just one punch will do it for Mike Tyson... But, Bruce Lee could easily knocked him down, he has the skills...
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there are girls in my BJJ class that could probably beat bruce lee...
I would go out on a limb and say that every 200lb+ guy has a fair chance of beating bruce lee, without any knowledge of martial arts whatsoever...
a more realistic comparison would be bruce lee vs jackie chan
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Hmmm... hard to answer, totally different styles....
Would be interesting to see
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And every 200 pound guy thought he could beat Royce Gracie... Until he started pulling guard and tapping them one after another in the same day to win tournaments....there are girls in my BJJ class that could probably beat bruce lee... I would go out on a limb and say that every 200lb+ guy has a fair chance of beating bruce lee, without any knowledge of martial arts whatsoever...a more realistic comparison would be bruce lee vs jackie chanComment
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He invented an entire style of martial arts and understood body mechanics better than any of his contemporaries. Had he been alive in the MMA era I have no doubt he would have picked up those techniques as well.Originally posted by MrBottomToothComment
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When it's 200 vs 130, 130 loses... Unfortunately for Tyson, his elbow or knee or neck don't weigh 200. In fact they each weigh a lot less than 20. And when it's 130 vs 20... 20 snaps and spends 8 weeks in a cast after surgery.Comment
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FIDDY mismatches.
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