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  • Horatio Caine
    full-time aspiring rapper
    • Aug 2012
    • 5746

    #101
    Originally posted by escorpio
    A huge percentage of your homeboys don't think fathers should be parents.
    Parenting is for suckers

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    • jimmycooper
      Confirmed User
      • May 2010
      • 4016

      #102
      Originally posted by Mutt
      I'm losing hope, I can't believe there are people defending the kid and his property rights. It's a CLASSROOM, there is an ADULT in charge of CHILDREN in that room, the teacher has a right to run his classroom in the way he chooses so the students get an education. Part of school is preparation for LIFE as an adult, there's work to be done and there's a boss who makes the rules for behavior in that classroom,we call them teachers. If the teacher's policy is phones aren't to be used during class or the phone gets confiscated then that's how it is.

      I've had my desk turned over with me in it by a volatile 65 year old teacher, been kicked hard by a female teacher in the ass, given the strap by an old principal with an eye patch whose hair, fingernails and everything else on him were stained yellow from nicotine, had a Bible thrown at my head by a religious school teacher ...... I more or less deserved it, no real harm was done and my parents didn't run to the school administration, they assumed right that I had been acting up and deserved punishment.

      This kid needs to be charged with assault, then off to juvie hall.
      Well said.

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      • 420
        cuck
        • Mar 2003
        • 11571

        #103
        Originally posted by Horatio Caine
        Parenting is for suckers
        It checks out.

        parenting = hard work = for suckers
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        • TheSquealer
          Mayor of Thneedville
          • Oct 2004
          • 26172

          #104
          Originally posted by Mutt
          I'm losing hope, I can't believe there are people defending the kid and his property rights. It's a CLASSROOM, there is an ADULT in charge of CHILDREN in that room, the teacher has a right to run his classroom in the way he chooses so the students get an education. Part of school is preparation for LIFE as an adult, there's work to be done and there's a boss who makes the rules for behavior in that classroom,we call them teachers. If the teacher's policy is phones aren't to be used during class or the phone gets confiscated then that's how it is.

          I've had my desk turned over with me in it by a volatile 65 year old teacher, been kicked hard by a female teacher in the ass, given the strap by an old principal with an eye patch whose hair, fingernails and everything else on him were stained yellow from nicotine, had a Bible thrown at my head by a religious school teacher ...... I more or less deserved it, no real harm was done and my parents didn't run to the school administration, they assumed right that I had been acting up and deserved punishment.

          This kid needs to be charged with assault, then off to juvie hall.
          It's nuts right? Remember when every classroom had a big ass paddle hanging over the black board? This shit just didn't happen. Talking back didn't happen. Raising your voice to the teacher didn't happen. Not following instructions didn't happen. "Demanding respect" didn't happen. Getting punished by the teacher was always preferred to what happened if you actually got sent to the principle. I remember seeing some violent shit too between teacher/students when things went to far and I don't remember ever not thinking "well idiot, all you had to do was shut your mouth". An incidentally, when a kid came home after a run in with the teacher or principle, there was a worse fate waiting for them.

          The world is officially fucked.
          .
          Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

          Rochard

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          • dyna mo
            just a fucking jerk
            • Dec 2008
            • 68184

            #105
            can someone provide this thread with statistics, hell, even a statistic, that supports the notion that allowing teachers to beat and whip our children produces a higher quality education/better person?

            I'm open and happy to stand corrected on my view that intellect trumps muscle in teaching and that we should teach violence prevention to our teachers and not kung fu/small arms carry.

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            • OneHungLo
              So Fucking Banned
              • May 2001
              • 40906

              #106
              Originally posted by brassmonkey
              that was before the tech! schools do not have the right to punish tax payers children! they are being paid by parents of the students

              Tax payers children? I highly doubt his parents paid a fucking cent into the system. Shit, that was probably an obamaphone

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              • SilentKnight
                Megan Fox's fluffer
                • Oct 2005
                • 24818

                #107
                Originally posted by dyna mo
                can someone provide this thread with statistics, hell, even a statistic, that supports the notion that allowing teachers to beat and whip our children produces a higher quality education/better person?

                I'm open and happy to stand corrected on my view that intellect trumps muscle in teaching and that we should teach violence prevention to our teachers and not kung fu/small arms carry.
                This has deviated a long way from the OP video showing a black thug physically attacking a 65-yr-old teacher who did little to defend himself.

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                • Diomed
                  Converting like it's 1999
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 6167

                  #108
                  For the requirements and understanding you are suggesting that teachers have.. There would be no fucking teachers.

                  You can quote bullshit articles all day long, it certainly doesn't mean your right. In this thread, like many others.. You take an ignorant stance and keep keep keep trying to prove it.

                  I love watching you waste your time. Please indulge us some more.

                  As was stated, this thread was about an ignorant ass student who body slammed his teacher for taking away his cell phone. Your political correctness gone mad bullshit about the way these underpaid teachers who are no doubt working these jobs because they are decent folk and want to contribute is a ridiculous thought in itself.

                  Perhaps that teacher implemented your quoted tactics all year long.. But there comes a point where what's right is right.

                  I'm guessing he shouldn't have taken the cell phone. Or when the student defied authority and demanded it back from the TEACHER, he should have then just coughed it up.. Like that would set a good example.

                  My whole point, and most everyone else's here.. Besides dumb monkey troll of the year, was that the teacher was in the right.

                  You can take your training and idealistic bullshit and torch it, because this shit happens all over the country with black students regardless of the teachers awareness, approach, or actions.

                  It starts in the home.

                  But do indulge us in some more semantic bullshit and keep patting yourself on the back you awful little egotistical douchebag bro jo cunt. Everybody is listening to you, I promise.

                  Like it has fuck all to do with the simple deduction of what happened. I look forward to you grabbing some other micro tangent and blabbing on about it for two hours as well.. We wait with baited breath you sincere intellectual you
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                  • Horatio Caine
                    full-time aspiring rapper
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 5746

                    #109
                    Originally posted by 420
                    It checks out.

                    parenting = hard work = for suckers
                    Prosecutor Charges Mother After Boyfriend Beats Her Child to Death

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                    • dyna mo
                      just a fucking jerk
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 68184

                      #110
                      Originally posted by SilentKnight
                      This has deviated a long way from the OP video showing a black thug physically attacking a 65-yr-old teacher who did little to defend himself.
                      I think it's spot on, tbh. prevention of the situation via superior intellect. that physics teachers should be 10x smarter than that punk student and cnsequently, easily manipulated the event in another direction.

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                      • ITraffic
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 2725

                        #111
                        Paterson freshman charged with assault after classroom attack on teacher - Paterson - NorthJersey.com

                        He said the teacher apparently confiscated the phone — which belonged to the assailant — from another student. The principal said students are allowed to use cellphones in class for academic purposes, but staff may take the devices and return them at the end of the day if students use them for other reasons.

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                        • AaronM
                          GFY Royality ;)
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 46923

                          #112
                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                          they aren't mutually exclusive. bad parents + bad teacher + bad student = physical altercation.

                          the math works here.

                          Only if you assume it was a bad teacher.

                          We know the student is wrong. Had his parents raised him better then he would't have fucked up in the first place.

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                          • AaronM
                            GFY Royality ;)
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 46923

                            #113
                            Originally posted by Mutt
                            I'm losing hope, I can't believe there are people defending the kid and his property rights. It's a CLASSROOM, there is an ADULT in charge of CHILDREN in that room, the teacher has a right to run his classroom in the way he chooses so the students get an education. Part of school is preparation for LIFE as an adult, there's work to be done and there's a boss who makes the rules for behavior in that classroom,we call them teachers. If the teacher's policy is phones aren't to be used during class or the phone gets confiscated then that's how it is.

                            I've had my desk turned over with me in it by a volatile 65 year old teacher, been kicked hard by a female teacher in the ass, given the strap by an old principal with an eye patch whose hair, fingernails and everything else on him were stained yellow from nicotine, had a Bible thrown at my head by a religious school teacher ...... I more or less deserved it, no real harm was done and my parents didn't run to the school administration, they assumed right that I had been acting up and deserved punishment.

                            This kid needs to be charged with assault, then off to juvie hall.

                            Somebody gets it....

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                            • AaronM
                              GFY Royality ;)
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 46923

                              #114
                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                              I haven't even mentioned the kid you dimwitted dolt.

                              you think creating a better teaching environment is a non-existent point yet I've linked accredited educational instutions policies and best work practices on the very point.



                              Nevertheless, obviously I am trying to make a point to people who completely lack any ability to realize there is opportunity to learn and make things better here, instead you like to make shit up such as me defending the student even though I am OTR earlier agreeing with AaronM the kid should be punished.

                              but hey, stick with your view that dumbfuck teachers can create out of control teaching space and then engage in violent confrontations, because hey, black kids deserve it.

                              He didn't even mention the kid was black you dimwitted racist dolt.

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                              • RummyBoy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 2157

                                #115
                                Originally posted by AaronM
                                Somebody gets it....
                                The adults who don't get it are actually a bigger part of the problem (not the kids themselves who should in the "juvie" as you say) and the reason why it's not gonna get fixed anytime soon. That's what's really depressing.

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                                • dyna mo
                                  just a fucking jerk
                                  • Dec 2008
                                  • 68184

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by AaronM
                                  Only if you assume it was a bad teacher.

                                  We know the student is wrong. Had his parents raised him better then he would't have fucked up in the first place.
                                  I don't think it's a leap to assume the teacher handled this poorly. So let's assume he's a good teacher that handled this situation poorly. Being allowed to "confiscate" a phone during class time doesn't mean actually physically fighting to confiscate the phone.

                                  by all accounts, the teacher took his phone from another student, then this student went and grabbed it from the teacher, who then made it into a fight for the phone.

                                  YOu are one of the more common-sense gfyers, I bet you agree that this teacher and policy could use some best practices updates on how to handle these types of students, maintaining control of a classroom and how to confiscate a phone.

                                  there is no question the kid assaulted the instructor but he would not have if that phone was just sitting somewhere and he took it back. the teacher held on to it and made it a physical altercation by not relinquishing it. He could have put the phone away and if the student then usurped a boundary to get his phone back, a simple call to security would have kept that teacher in control of his classroom and kept the other students out of harm's way.

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                                  • dyna mo
                                    just a fucking jerk
                                    • Dec 2008
                                    • 68184

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by AaronM
                                    He didn't even mention the kid was black you dimwitted racist dolt.
                                    i realized after my editing time expired that the black part didn't directly reply to the implied narrative in this thread.

                                    so take the black part out. my point is still valid that the teacher is much smarter than the student and easily could have handled this situation better.


                                    and gofuckyourself.

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                                    • dyna mo
                                      just a fucking jerk
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 68184

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by AaronM
                                      Somebody gets it....
                                      I don't mind being the only one here who gets the fact that teachers can learn from this to acquire better tools to maintain control of their classrooms.

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                                      • TheSquealer
                                        Mayor of Thneedville
                                        • Oct 2004
                                        • 26172

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                                        I don't mind being the only one here who gets the fact that teachers can learn from this to acquire better tools to maintain control of their classrooms.
                                        You are the only one denying the fact that a student attacked a teacher and was 100% wrong to do so and its more than likely that absolutely nothing could have been done to avoid it.... and you have NO OTHER INFORMATION to tell you exactly what led up to that moment exactly, what was said, what threats were made, how much time there was to think or say something and so on. You just have this strong emotional reaction against the teacher and you are grasping to rationalize it. Seriously, everyone can see this. This is a moment where you could step back and ask "wow... hm... i seem to be very out of sync in my understanding of the events vs others... what is off here?".
                                        .
                                        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                        Rochard

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                                        • dyna mo
                                          just a fucking jerk
                                          • Dec 2008
                                          • 68184

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                          You are the only one denying the fact that a student attacked a teacher and was 100% wrong to do so and its more than likely that absolutely nothing could have been done to avoid it.... and you have NO OTHER INFORMATION to tell you exactly what led up to that moment exactly, what was said, what threats were made, how much time there was to think or say something and so on. You just have this strong emotional reaction against the teacher and you are grasping to rationalize it. Seriously, everyone can see this. This is a moment where you could step back and ask "wow... hm... i seem to be very out of sync in my understanding of the events vs others... what is off here?".
                                          you might want to read the thread better prior to your psych profile making this about me.

                                          Because when and if you do, you will see at least 2x where I've agreed with others such as AaronM that the kid was wrong and should be punished and I've even rementioned that at least 1x more time since then.

                                          after that you might realize I'm the most pragmatic person in this thread.

                                          and gofuckyourself.

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                                          • dyna mo
                                            just a fucking jerk
                                            • Dec 2008
                                            • 68184

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by dyna mo

                                            there is no question the kid assaulted the instructor



                                            Originally posted by AaronM
                                            The kids in these videos need to be expelled.
                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                            i totally agree.
                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                            they aren't mutually exclusive. bad parents + bad teacher + bad student = physical altercation.

                                            the math works here.
                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                            instead you like to make shit up such as me defending the student even though I am OTR earlier agreeing with AaronM the kid should be punished.
                                            my pragmatic view backed up by researchers and educators:

                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                            according to this article, power struggle in the classroom is the responsibility and fault of the educator.

                                            Chapter 20: Conflict Resolution and Power struggles
                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                            from the National Education Association:


                                            Avoiding Power Struggles with Students
                                            The dos and don'ts of dealing with classroom confrontations.

                                            many educators have developed strategies for dealing with confrontational students. At the top of the list: “Never get into a power struggle,” says Mary Barela, a middle school teacher in Fort Collins, Colorado. “You are the adult and know better.

                                            NEA - Avoiding Power Struggles with Students
                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                            A Report by the American Psychological Association Board of Educational Affairs Task Force on Classroom Violence Directed Against Teachers.


                                            Understanding and Preventing Violence Directed Against Teachers


                                            Educators should be prepared to identify early warning signs of aggressive and violent threats (see Warning signs of youth violence), reacting from an effective response repertoire. The Federal Bureau of Investigation has compiled a list of resources that is a great resource for schools.

                                            When equipped with best practices training, empathic caring and a supportive administrative staff, a proactive and knowledgeable teacher is his or her own best protection against threats of student violence.
                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                            Incidents of aggression and violence in the classroom should be met with immediate, nonaggressive consequences. The author discusses specific strategies for preventing violent episodes and for reacting appropriately when they do occur.

                                            Practical Strategies for Working With Students Who Display Aggression and Violence
                                            CYC-Net: CYC-Online

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                                            • Lykos
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Apr 2003
                                              • 31032

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                              chill ese no matter the race they still suffer even Aryan Brotherhood you are a pice of work!
                                              They look fucking dangerous

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                                              • dyna mo
                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                • Dec 2008
                                                • 68184

                                                #123
                                                ANd I haven't even began to rip apart the argument that it is OK for strangers to exact physical punishment on our kids.

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                                                • TheSquealer
                                                  Mayor of Thneedville
                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                  • 26172

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                  you might want to read the thread better prior to your psych profile making this about me.

                                                  Because when and if you do, you will see at least 2x where I've agreed with others such as AaronM that the kid was wrong and should be punished and I've even rementioned that at least 1x more time since then.

                                                  after that you might realize I'm the most pragmatic person in this thread.

                                                  and gofuckyourself.
                                                  Again, my point was that you literally have no clue what the exchange was before the video. You know nothing but the video and the statement that the phone was taken from a 3rd party. That is all you know. So there is zero basis whatsoever for suggesting the teacher should have done something differently as you've been doing. Whether there is something to be learned from the incident, depends on what ALL THE FACTS ARE... not your simplistic "rush to judgement" over simplifications.

                                                  As for your quotes. Who cares? I can dig up things to support any view I want. I can dig up research to prove aliens built the pyramids and go on and on about how PHD's agree with me. That means nothing and is 100% irrelevant to the undeniable truth that you do not have all the facts of the event, to pass judgement on the teacher.
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                                                  Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                  Rochard

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                                                  • dyna mo
                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                    • 68184

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                    Again, my point was that you literally have no clue what the exchange was before the video. You know nothing but the video and the statement that the phone was taken from a 3rd party. That is all you know. So there is zero basis whatsoever for suggesting the teacher should have done something differently as you've been doing. Whether there is something to be learned from the incident, depends on what ALL THE FACTS ARE... not your simplistic "rush to judgement" over simplifications.

                                                    As for your quotes. Who cares? I can dig up things to support any view I want. I can dig up research to prove aliens built the pyramids and go on and on about how PHD's agree with me. That means nothing and is 100% irrelevant to the undeniable truth that you do not have all the facts of the event, to pass judgement on the teacher.


                                                    do you understand the difference between inference and deduction? I mean do you? because I don't think you do. If you did you'd easily see that what I am assuming is well within the boundaries of logical inference enough to conclude that violence prevention trumps escalating violence in the classroom.

                                                    I mean really, arguing against prevention. that's your stance here. you're stating I am rushing to judgement to even suggest that it better to diplomatically control the classroom with superior intellect over muscling students.


                                                    next.
                                                    obviously you CAN'T dig up things to support your view all you want because I asked yesterday for 1 simple statistic that supports your view that teachers physically beating our kids in the classroom leads to better education/better people, etc.

                                                    I'm still waiting for that.

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                                                    • dyna mo
                                                      just a fucking jerk
                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                      • 68184

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                      You are the only one denying the fact that a student attacked a teacher and was 100% wrong to do so and its more than likely that absolutely nothing could have been done to avoid it.... and you have NO OTHER INFORMATION to tell you exactly what led up to that moment exactly, what was said, what threats were made, how much time there was to think or say something and so on. You just have this strong emotional reaction against the teacher and you are grasping to rationalize it. Seriously, everyone can see this. This is a moment where you could step back and ask "wow... hm... i seem to be very out of sync in my understanding of the events vs others... what is off here?".
                                                      feel free to retract this nonsense since I've proofed it false.

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                                                      • dyna mo
                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                        • 68184

                                                        #127
                                                        okey dokey, i gotta hop for abit but I'll check back later,

                                                        remember, there is always opportunity to do better, this event isn't any different.

                                                        !

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