Tom Brady And The Patriots Are INNOCENT!

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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184

    #16
    Originally posted by AmateurBros
    Do you say anything before thinking?

    And it's not unproven that a ball with less air in it is easier to grip when it's wet -- that's called common sense -- it's easier to catch in that situation too (obviously).

    The Patriots are the ones who put the air in the balls (no one else) -- they knew what they were doing and Tom Brady was part of it. If he wasn't part of it, why would he not have asked for more air to be put in the balls, to play with them how he wanted? The guy throws a football for a living, any change in it, he's going to know instantly when he picks it up -- and if something wasn't how he wanted and someone on the team tampered with it -- he would have been furious.

    No one is going to do anything on the New England team, to the footballs, without Brady's knowledge.
    no need to get butthurt and make it personal. try and have an adult discussion.


    you do realize no one had to alter the pressure right? or are you just going with what the media tells you?

    did anyone measure the pressure in the colts' balls? what were they? what was the pressure in the 12th ball? was it normal or not as low?

    more science, for those who can have an open mind here.


    A ball exposed to 10-degree temperatures for an hour, the pressure drops from 13.5 PSI to 11 PSI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59PE...utu.be&t=1m50s


    for anyone with an open mind, there in nothing obvious to assume here.

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    • dyna mo
      just a fucking jerk
      • Dec 2008
      • 68184

      #17
      Originally posted by AmateurBros
      Former QB Troy Aikman: "It's obvious that Tom Brady had something to do with this...each team brings their footballs the way they like them and break 'em in. Used to you couldn't break them in. So for the balls to be deflated, that doesn't happen unless the quarterback wants that to happen, I can assure you of that."

      Former QB Mark Brunell: "I did not believe what Tom had to say. Those balls were deflated. Somebody had to do it. I don't believe there's an equipment manager in the NFL that would, on his own initiative, deflate a ball without the starting QB's approval ... That football is our livelihood. If you don't feel good about throwing that ball? Your success on the football field can suffer from that."

      Former RB Jerome Bettis: "I'm so disappointed, because I thought this was a perfect opportunity for Tom Brady to go and say 'You know what? I made a mistake. I blew it. It's on me. I'll take the blame here, and this will go away.' He didn't do that ... I'm disappointed in you Tom Brady."

      Former safety Brian Dawkins: "This is unbelievable. For you not to know what you touch every play? ... The equipment manager is being thrown under the bus now. Now he's the guy. Now he's the one responsible. He took it upon himself to doctor up the balls when nobody else knew about it? That?s hard (to believe)."
      100% conjecture.

      so yes, you are simply going with what the media tells you to think.

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      • dyna mo
        just a fucking jerk
        • Dec 2008
        • 68184

        #18
        Originally posted by AmateurBros
        Btw, the Patriots are my favorite team, but I don't become consciously delusional like so many of you in situations like this.
        It's not surprising you think an open mind = consciously delusional.

        it's a fucking game, try and not get butthurt because someone else has a different view and is open to the possible explanations.


        and I can't stand the pats. fuck them.

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        • AmateurBros
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          • Jan 2015
          • 399

          #19
          Originally posted by dyna mo
          more science, for those who can have an open mind here.

          A ball exposed to 10-degree temperatures for an hour, the pressure drops from 13.5 PSI to 11 PSI

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59PE...utu.be&t=1m50s

          for anyone with an open mind, there in nothing obvious to assume here.

          Explain why there was no affect on the Colt's footballs, Mr. Science?
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          • AmateurBros
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            • Jan 2015
            • 399

            #20
            Originally posted by dyna mo
            100% conjecture.

            so yes, you are simply going with what the media tells you to think.
            What the media tells us?

            They are former football players. Find one former football player, who has said anything different in the past week. The only one's who believe Brady knew nothing about those, are people lack a tad bit of common sense.

            Answer this question. If the balls were tampered with, or not what Brady wanted -- WHY did he not ask to have them checked and have more air put in them. Give a simple explanation for that, I'm interested in hearing it.
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            • dyna mo
              just a fucking jerk
              • Dec 2008
              • 68184

              #21
              Originally posted by AmateurBros
              Explain why there was no affect on the Colt's footballs, Mr. Science?
              can you read? I just stated a question asking if the Colts' balls were measured. I.e., they fucking weren't measured so you have no fucking way to compare. so you are making up even more bullshit by claiming the Colts' balls were not effected. jesus fucking christ.

              if that's science to you, step away from this convo, you're over your head.'

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              • AmateurBros
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2015
                • 399

                #22
                Originally posted by dyna mo
                and not get butthurt because someone else has a different view and is open to the possible explanations.
                You're the one who started this debate between us -- because you didn't like my point of view. It wasn't the other way around. Get confused much?
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                • dyna mo
                  just a fucking jerk
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 68184

                  #23
                  Originally posted by AmateurBros
                  What the media tells us?

                  They are former football players. Find one former football player, who has said anything different in the past week. The only one's who believe Brady knew nothing about those, are people lack a tad bit of common sense.

                  Answer this question. If the balls were tampered with, or not what Brady wanted -- WHY did he not ask to have them checked and have more air put in them. Give a simple explanation for that, I'm interested in hearing it.
                  Joe Thiesmann :
                  Theismann throws deflated balls, says he can't tell the difference

                  Theismann throws deflated balls, says he can't tell the difference | NFL | Sporting News

                  steve young:
                  I can't tell the difference

                  Former NFL quarterbacks talk Deflategate

                  dan Marino:
                  the last thing you're thinking about as a quarterback when you get to the line of scrimmage is, 'I wonder if this football is to 2 psi lighter?'


                  Since you are obviously NOT a football fan, you've prolly never heard of those guys. Briefly, they are hall of fame NFL quarterbacks. google them to brush up.

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                  • AmateurBros
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 399

                    #24
                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                    can you read? I just stated a question asking if the Colts' balls were measured. I.e., they fucking weren't measured so you have no fucking way to compare. so you are making up even more bullshit by claiming the Colts' balls were not effected. jesus fucking christ.

                    if that's science to you, step away from this convo, you're over your head.'
                    If they weren't measured, there would be no discussion about this. It's as simple as that. The league isn't going to come down on one team, without checking out what the other team's balls were as well.

                    I'm over my head? Answer my question there bud...

                    If the balls were tampered with, or not what Brady wanted -- WHY did he not ask to have them checked and have more air put in them? Give a simple explanation for that, I'm interested in hearing it.
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                    • dyna mo
                      just a fucking jerk
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 68184

                      #25
                      Originally posted by AmateurBros
                      You're the one who started this debate between us -- because you didn't like my point of view. It wasn't the other way around. Get confused much?
                      I didn't make it personal, I stated there is nothing obvious about this whatsoever. And there is not. You didn't like that and came back with your personal comments instead of any proof to support your closed-minded view.

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                      • AmateurBros
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 399

                        #26
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        Joe Thiesmann :
                        Theismann throws deflated balls, says he can't tell the difference

                        Theismann throws deflated balls, says he can't tell the difference | NFL | Sporting News

                        steve young:
                        I can't tell the difference

                        Former NFL quarterbacks talk Deflategate

                        dan Marino:
                        the last thing you're thinking about as a quarterback when you get to the line of scrimmage is, 'I wonder if this football is to 2 psi lighter?'


                        Since you are obviously NOT a football fan, you've prolly never heard of those guys. Briefly, they are hall of fame NFL quarterbacks. google them to brush up.

                        If you can't tell that you can grip a ball better, that's deflated less, there's an issue somewhere
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                        • dyna mo
                          just a fucking jerk
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 68184

                          #27
                          Originally posted by AmateurBros
                          If they weren't measured, there would be no discussion about this. It's as simple as that. The league isn't going to come down on one team, without checking out what the other team's balls were as well.

                          I'm over my head? Answer my question there bud...

                          If the balls were tampered with, or not what Brady wanted -- WHY did he not ask to have them checked and have more air put in them? Give a simple explanation for that, I'm interested in hearing it.
                          provide just 1 link to any site that claims the COlts' balls were measured.

                          you truly are thoroughly confused. Here, I will rephrase. By my stating that there is nothing obvious about this at this time, then questions are UNANSWERED. Has the NFL ruled on this yet? of course not. because questions remain. like the weather.can you grasp that or should I let a little pressure out of my delivery so you can catch it better?

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                          • x12media
                            Ohhh Snap!
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 276

                            #28
                            Ummm Go Patriots ... :-)
                            Gotta love sexy ass people!

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                            • AmateurBros
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 399

                              #29
                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                              you do realize no one had to alter the pressure right?
                              Hey true football fan, every football, for every game, is altered exactly how the quarterback wants them. That's why teams provide their own.
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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184

                                #30
                                Originally posted by AmateurBros
                                If you can't tell that you can grip a ball better, that's deflated less, there's an issue somewhere
                                yup, someone who doesn't understand the sport, let alone couldn't throw a football 10 yards thinks their view trumps hall of fame quarterbacks'!

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