All the haters want to say he's guilty but the truth is he had nothing to do with it!
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My balls are deflated.Comment
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such a non-story when everyone admits the balls had no effect on the game.
good case how the media needs something to exploit, so this will be front page for the next 10 days.
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They've beat them up... And they all have played with the same balls.. Don't know how people can talk this shit...
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people talk shit when they have nothing good to say. thats reality
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Gotta love their long and illustrious history of cheating.
The Patriots finally got caught stealing signals, and using cameras to spy on opposing teams in 2007, but it's suspected to have started with Belichick's arrival in 2000. And that's just some of their shenanigans. They have not been able to repeat a Super Bowl win since ... but next week will be their 3rd try since "Spygate."
2007 National Football League videotaping controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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He had something to do with it, without question -- that's as obvious as anything. NO ONE on his team is going to change the pressure in the footballs he's playing with, without him knowing. It's him who decides EXACTLY how much or how little air is put in them and he'd know the difference the instant he touched the ball.
He's not going to play with a football that isn't how he wants it.Email: amateurbros(a)gmail.com
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there is nothing at all obvious and without question. you think a multi-billion dollar operation simply threw caution to the wind in an NFC championship game and incorporated an unproven and unpracticed cheating strategy that didn't even bother to cover its' tracks?
He had something to do with it, without question -- that's as obvious as anything. NO ONE on his team is going to change the pressure in the footballs he's playing with, without him knowing. It's him who decides EXACTLY how much or how little air is put in them and he'd know the difference the instant he touched the ball.
He's not going to play with a football that isn't how he wants it.
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Do you say anything before thinking?
And it's not unproven that a ball with less air in it is easier to grip when it's wet -- that's called common sense -- it's easier to catch in that situation too (obviously).
The Patriots are the ones who put the air in the balls (no one else) -- they knew what they were doing and Tom Brady was part of it. If he wasn't part of it, why would he not have asked for more air to be put in the balls, to play with them how he wanted? The guy throws a football for a living, any change in it, he's going to know instantly when he picks it up -- and if something wasn't how he wanted and someone on the team tampered with it -- he would have been furious.
No one is going to do anything on the New England team, to the footballs, without Brady's knowledge.Email: amateurbros(a)gmail.com
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Former QB Troy Aikman: "It's obvious that Tom Brady had something to do with this...each team brings their footballs the way they like them and break 'em in. Used to you couldn't break them in. So for the balls to be deflated, that doesn't happen unless the quarterback wants that to happen, I can assure you of that."
Former QB Mark Brunell: "I did not believe what Tom had to say. Those balls were deflated. Somebody had to do it. I don't believe there's an equipment manager in the NFL that would, on his own initiative, deflate a ball without the starting QB's approval ... That football is our livelihood. If you don't feel good about throwing that ball? Your success on the football field can suffer from that."
Former RB Jerome Bettis: "I'm so disappointed, because I thought this was a perfect opportunity for Tom Brady to go and say 'You know what? I made a mistake. I blew it. It's on me. I'll take the blame here, and this will go away.' He didn't do that ... I'm disappointed in you Tom Brady."
Former safety Brian Dawkins: "This is unbelievable. For you not to know what you touch every play? ... The equipment manager is being thrown under the bus now. Now he's the guy. Now he's the one responsible. He took it upon himself to doctor up the balls when nobody else knew about it? That?s hard (to believe)."Email: amateurbros(a)gmail.com
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Btw, the Patriots are my favorite team, but I don't become consciously delusional like so many of you in situations like this.Email: amateurbros(a)gmail.com
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no need to get butthurt and make it personal. try and have an adult discussion.
you do realize no one had to alter the pressure right? or are you just going with what the media tells you?
did anyone measure the pressure in the colts' balls? what were they? what was the pressure in the 12th ball? was it normal or not as low?
more science, for those who can have an open mind here.
A ball exposed to 10-degree temperatures for an hour, the pressure drops from 13.5 PSI to 11 PSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59PE...utu.be&t=1m50s
for anyone with an open mind, there in nothing obvious to assume here.Comment
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What the media tells us?
They are former football players. Find one former football player, who has said anything different in the past week. The only one's who believe Brady knew nothing about those, are people lack a tad bit of common sense.
Answer this question. If the balls were tampered with, or not what Brady wanted -- WHY did he not ask to have them checked and have more air put in them. Give a simple explanation for that, I'm interested in hearing it.Email: amateurbros(a)gmail.com
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can you read? I just stated a question asking if the Colts' balls were measured. I.e., they fucking weren't measured so you have no fucking way to compare. so you are making up even more bullshit by claiming the Colts' balls were not effected. jesus fucking christ.
if that's science to you, step away from this convo, you're over your head.'Comment
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Joe Thiesmann :
Theismann throws deflated balls, says he can't tell the difference
Theismann throws deflated balls, says he can't tell the difference | NFL | Sporting News
steve young:
I can't tell the difference
Former NFL quarterbacks talk Deflategate
dan Marino:
the last thing you're thinking about as a quarterback when you get to the line of scrimmage is, 'I wonder if this football is to 2 psi lighter?'
Since you are obviously NOT a football fan, you've prolly never heard of those guys. Briefly, they are hall of fame NFL quarterbacks. google them to brush up.Comment
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If they weren't measured, there would be no discussion about this. It's as simple as that. The league isn't going to come down on one team, without checking out what the other team's balls were as well.
I'm over my head? Answer my question there bud...
If the balls were tampered with, or not what Brady wanted -- WHY did he not ask to have them checked and have more air put in them? Give a simple explanation for that, I'm interested in hearing it.Email: amateurbros(a)gmail.com
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provide just 1 link to any site that claims the COlts' balls were measured.
you truly are thoroughly confused. Here, I will rephrase. By my stating that there is nothing obvious about this at this time, then questions are UNANSWERED. Has the NFL ruled on this yet? of course not. because questions remain. like the weather.can you grasp that or should I let a little pressure out of my delivery so you can catch it better?Comment
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Ummm Go Patriots ... :-)Gotta love sexy ass people!Comment
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"Colts safety Mike Adams intercepted Tom Brady twice in that game and gave the balls to the Colts' equipment manager to save -- and both times there were concerns about the balls feeling under-inflated, sources told Schefter."
Do you agree that this is possible? Since Joe Thiesmann, Steve Young and Dan Marino said they can't tell any difference.Email: amateurbros(a)gmail.com
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Still many unanswered questions: Despite a rush to judgment in some circles, there is incomplete information to analyze.
This is the challenge of the 24/7 news cycle.
Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped some from publicly questioning the integrity of Brady -- which, from this viewpoint, has crossed the line based on the credible information available.
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is what possible? My entire point here is anything is possible and based on so many big unanswered questions, there is nothing obvious about this at this point in time.
3rd time i've had to mention that here.
so hey, where is that link with the ball pressure measurement on those Colts footballs?Comment
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what do you mean am I serious? Yes, I am seriously posting the fact that aaron rogers stated he prefers overinflated footballs because he can grip them better.
again, there is nothing obvious about the deflated balls. if there were the NFL statement released an hour ago would claim that and they would have easily made a conclusion. they didn't.Comment
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no, this is not possible. IN fact, it's wrong.
Colts? D?Qwell Jackson says he did not spark DeflateGate by noticing football's feel on interception
Linebacker says he wanted picked off ball as a souvenir, which is why he brought it to the sideline, not because he felt deflation.
The deal about me saying that I noticed anything about it, that?s totally false,? he said, according to the Associated Press. ?I don?t know how it got to this point, but somehow I?m in the middle of it.?Comment
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I think this is a lot of talk about nothing.
So far we have zero proof of any wrong doing, multiple versions of if it would be beneficial if a ball was deflated, and if if the ball was deflated I doubt it would have made much of a difference.
I play basketball EVERY DAY and football isn't my thing... But it seems to me if you played football for a living and were used to properly inflated balls, using deflated balls would be more difficult to handle - I mean, you handle a ball every day and you expect to handle a certain way and suddenly it changes that's a huge problem.Herschel Savage
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According to the article on ESPN the deflated balls were all used during the first half of the game. The balls used at the start of the second half were checked and were found to be fine and they were checked again at the end of the game and found to still be fine.
This means that either: A. Somewhere between when the balls were checked and approved by the officials and when they were discovered to be deflated in the first half they lost air magically or as some would say because of the cold and environment, yet for some reason that same cold and same environment didn't have the same affect on the balls in the second half or B. Someone messed with them.
Personally, I think they were messed with in an effort to gain a slight advantage. I don't, however, think the balls had any affect on the outcome of the game.Comment
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