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dyna mo 01-23-2015 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20368244)
I know, can you read okay? I said "could".

Also, I didn't say once that it gave him an advantage in that game. I said a ball deflated some would be easier to grip on, and easier to catch -- which it is. No where did I say it was at his advantage in that particular game.

aaron rogers is on the record stating an over-inflated ball is easier for him to grip.

so go on....

AmateurBros 01-23-2015 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20368255)
aaron rogers is on the record stating an over-inflated ball is easier for him to grip.

so go on....

A much firmer object is easier to grip than a less firm object??? Are you serious? :1orglaugh

Next you'll be saying it's easier to catch one that's over inflated...and easier for sure to catch an over inflated one in the rain / snow -- right?

dyna mo 01-23-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20368269)
A much firmer object is easier to grip than a less firm object??? Are you serious? :1orglaugh

Next you'll be saying it's easier to catch one that's over inflated...and easier for sure to catch an over inflated one in the rain / snow -- right?

what do you mean am I serious? Yes, I am seriously posting the fact that aaron rogers stated he prefers overinflated footballs because he can grip them better.

again, there is nothing obvious about the deflated balls. if there were the NFL statement released an hour ago would claim that and they would have easily made a conclusion. they didn't.

dyna mo 01-23-2015 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurBros (Post 20368231)
"Colts safety Mike Adams intercepted Tom Brady twice in that game and gave the balls to the Colts' equipment manager to save -- and both times there were concerns about the balls feeling under-inflated, sources told Schefter."

Do you agree that this is possible?

no, this is not possible. IN fact, it's wrong.


Colts? D?Qwell Jackson says he did not spark DeflateGate by noticing football's feel on interception
Linebacker says he wanted picked off ball as a souvenir, which is why he brought it to the sideline, not because he felt deflation.

The deal about me saying that I noticed anything about it, that?s totally false,? he said, according to the Associated Press. ?I don?t know how it got to this point, but somehow I?m in the middle of it.?

SuckOnThis 01-23-2015 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20368237)
is what possible? My entire point here is anything is possible and based on so many big unanswered questions, there is nothing obvious about this at this point in time.


3rd time i've had to mention that here.


so hey, where is that link with the ball pressure measurement on those Colts footballs?

And the 12th football had magical air in it.

:1orglaugh

dyna mo 01-23-2015 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20368443)
And the 12th football had magical air in it.

:1orglaugh

yup.

if not, then you can easily explain the 12th fucking football not being deflated.

Rochard 01-23-2015 04:24 PM

I think this is a lot of talk about nothing.

So far we have zero proof of any wrong doing, multiple versions of if it would be beneficial if a ball was deflated, and if if the ball was deflated I doubt it would have made much of a difference.

I play basketball EVERY DAY and football isn't my thing... But it seems to me if you played football for a living and were used to properly inflated balls, using deflated balls would be more difficult to handle - I mean, you handle a ball every day and you expect to handle a certain way and suddenly it changes that's a huge problem.

crockett 01-23-2015 07:54 PM

http://i.imgur.com/nakrJ7w.jpg

ReggieDurango 01-23-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20368579)

Haha

Ok that's good

kane 01-23-2015 08:16 PM

According to the article on ESPN the deflated balls were all used during the first half of the game. The balls used at the start of the second half were checked and were found to be fine and they were checked again at the end of the game and found to still be fine.

This means that either: A. Somewhere between when the balls were checked and approved by the officials and when they were discovered to be deflated in the first half they lost air magically or as some would say because of the cold and environment, yet for some reason that same cold and same environment didn't have the same affect on the balls in the second half or B. Someone messed with them.

Personally, I think they were messed with in an effort to gain a slight advantage. I don't, however, think the balls had any affect on the outcome of the game.

L-Pink 01-23-2015 08:22 PM

NFL rules require each team to provide 12 primary balls to the referee for testing 2 hours, 15 minutes before kickoff to ensure they fall between the proper inflation limits of 12½ to 13½ pounds per square inch.

The referee "shall be the sole judge as to whether all balls offered for play comply with these specifications" and the balls "remain under the supervision of the Referee until they are delivered to the ball attendant just prior to the start of the game," according to Rule 2, Section 1.

The ball attendant is a uniformed official who comes to the locker room to pick up the balls and takes them to the officials' locker room for testing.

The ball attendant delivers the balls to the ball boys who make sure their quarterback's preferred balls get into the game.

At halftime, the balls return to the officials' locker room. So, if proper protocol is followed, the only opportunity to manipulate the balls is minutes before kickoff or during the game on the sideline, where there's a risk of anyone in the stadium and dozens of TV cameras seeing it.

*** So .... taking into account all of the above if someone does tamper with a ball it really is a big deal.

It's deliberate cheating, it's deliberately trying to gain an unfair edge over the competition.

.

Axeman 01-23-2015 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20368586)
According to the article on ESPN the deflated balls were all used during the first half of the game. The balls used at the start of the second half were checked and were found to be fine and they were checked again at the end of the game and found to still be fine.

This means that either: A. Somewhere between when the balls were checked and approved by the officials and when they were discovered to be deflated in the first half they lost air magically or as some would say because of the cold and environment, yet for some reason that same cold and same environment didn't have the same affect on the balls in the second half or B. Someone messed with them.

Personally, I think they were messed with in an effort to gain a slight advantage. I don't, however, think the balls had any affect on the outcome of the game.


"ESPN Sports Radio 810 in Kansas City reported that the Patriots footballs were tested during halftme, re-inflated after when they were found to be under-inflated, then the balls put back in play for the second half and then tested again after the game.

All of the balls the Colts used met standards, according to the ESPN report.
Game officials discovered at halftime that game balls were under-inflated according to the Globe. The officials tested each ball twice using different gauges."

Report: Colts Raised Concerns About Under-Inflated Balls After Game vs. Patriots in Indianapolis - Extra Points - Boston.com

kane 01-23-2015 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20368597)
"ESPN Sports Radio 810 in Kansas City reported that the Patriots footballs were tested during halftme, re-inflated after when they were found to be under-inflated, then the balls put back in play for the second half and then tested again after the game.

All of the balls the Colts used met standards, according to the ESPN report.
Game officials discovered at halftime that game balls were under-inflated according to the Globe. The officials tested each ball twice using different gauges."

Report: Colts Raised Concerns About Under-Inflated Balls After Game vs. Patriots in Indianapolis - Extra Points - Boston.com

Interesting. I didn't know they re-inflated the same balls.

The Porn Nerd 01-23-2015 10:59 PM

Brady and Belicheat are guilty as fuck.
There's a climate of cheating there in New England.

ReggieDurango 01-25-2015 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20368693)
Brady and Belicheat are guilty as fuck.
There's a climate of cheating there in New England.

You must be a Jets fan??

ReggieDurango 12-07-2016 07:04 PM

Bumping this old one to reiterate my sentiments regarding this matter.

ufotestpilot 12-07-2016 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 20367382)
All the haters want to say he's guilty but the truth is he had nothing to do with it!

Screw em. They're washed up. It's Dallas Cowboys this year.
dammit

ReggieDurango 12-07-2016 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ufotestpilot (Post 21364000)
Screw em. They're washed up. It's Dallas Cowboys this year.
dammit

I could see it being a Patriots/Cowboys Super Bowl for sure


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