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  • American Psycho
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2009
    • 3068

    #1

    how many customers will a new restaurant get these days?

    How many customers is a realistic goal for a high quality restaurant these days?
    If you were starting a new restaurant today, high quality hardcore exclusive food what would be a realistic number of customers to be at a year later?

    Don't reply with 'how long is a piece of string?' I'm not talking about some outlier of a unique restaurant, the way chipolte was I'm talking about a restaurant with food that is really good, appeals to a wide audience but not 'wow i never tasted like that'.
  • L-Pink
    working on my tan
    • Mar 2005
    • 39151

    #2
    Will customers be able to use their Zombaio cards or just Visa/MC ?

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    • ilnjscb
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2009
      • 8972

      #3
      Originally posted by American Psycho
      How many customers is a realistic goal for a high quality restaurant these days?
      If you were starting a new restaurant today, high quality hardcore exclusive food what would be a realistic number of customers to be at a year later?

      Don't reply with 'how long is a piece of string?' I'm not talking about some outlier of a unique restaurant, the way chipolte was I'm talking about a restaurant with food that is really good, appeals to a wide audience but not 'wow i never tasted like that'.
      Enough so that their number, multiplied by average revenue per customer, results in a number significantly greater than the expense required to serve them and pay the fixed costs of the restaurant.

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      • NALEM
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2010
        • 3163

        #4
        Originally posted by American Psycho
        How many customers is a realistic goal for a high quality restaurant these days?
        If you were starting a new restaurant today, high quality hardcore exclusive food what would be a realistic number of customers to be at a year later?

        Don't reply with 'how long is a piece of string?' I'm not talking about some outlier of a unique restaurant, the way chipolte was I'm talking about a restaurant with food that is really good, appeals to a wide audience but not 'wow i never tasted like that'.
        If this question is serious, then write me directly. There are a number of questions that you would need to find the answer to, and I would be happy to lead you in the right direction (without the attitude)
        "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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        • woj
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          • Jul 2002
          • 47882

          #5
          Why don't you work it the other way around? How much would you need to break even?

          (*) All provided numbers are an estimate to give a general idea and may change a lot depending on location, experience and your skillset.

          1) You would need minimum 20 dishes before opening (which you mentioned as high quality)
          a) You cook yourself without extra: 500$ x 20 = 10000$
          b) You don't cook yourself or pay extras: 1000$ x 20 = 20000$

          2) New dishes (you mentioned always exclusive and high quality) (monthly)
          a) You cook yourself without extra: 500$ x 4 = 2000$
          b) You don't cook yourself or pay extras: 1000$ x 4 = 4000$

          3) Location (monthly)
          a) unmanaged: 50$
          b) semi-managed: 150$
          c) managed: 450$

          4) Dish update (cook, produce and serve) (monthly)
          a) Yourself: Free
          b) Cook/Produce or Serve by someone else: 400$/800$
          c) All done by someone else: 800$/1600$

          5) Menu design and general design (monthly)
          a) Yourself: Free
          b) Mid-range: 400$
          c) Mid-range: 800$

          6) Billing (monthly) (the choice will have an effect on your final profit %)
          a) Third-party with Visa/MC: 100$
          b) Your own billing account: Free

          7) Other partnerships (dish trade, advertising, partnership, etc.) (monthly)
          a) None or trades without expenses: Free
          b) Some: 200$
          c) A lot: 500$

          8) Other general expenses (lawyer, themes, tools, etc.) (monthly)
          a) Minimal: 50$
          b) Some: 100$
          c) A lot: 250$+

          9) Advertising (monthly)
          a) In-house + affiliates: Free
          b) Some bought: 100$
          c) A lot bought: 500$+


          Answer these, calculate your monthly expenses, calculate your # of required member to break even then ask your question again. At the moment there are way to many unknowns. Adjust all numbers to your closest expectations and you'll have a good overview.

          Then answer these:

          10) Will it be part of an existing restaurant chain
          a) Yes: More sales
          b) No: Less sales

          11) What ratio do you expect
          a) 1:500
          b) 1:1000
          c) 1:2500
          d) Other (specify)
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          • L-Pink
            working on my tan
            • Mar 2005
            • 39151

            #6
            Originally posted by NALEM
            If this question is serious, then write me directly. There are a number of questions that you would need to find the answer to, and I would be happy to lead you in the right direction (without the attitude)
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            • myleene
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2013
              • 906

              #7
              Originally posted by woj
              Why don't you work it the other way around? How much would you need to break even?

              (*) All provided numbers are an estimate to give a general idea and may change a lot depending on location, experience and your skillset.

              1) You would need minimum 20 dishes before opening (which you mentioned as high quality)
              a) You cook yourself without extra: 500$ x 20 = 10000$
              b) You don't cook yourself or pay extras: 1000$ x 20 = 20000$

              2) New dishes (you mentioned always exclusive and high quality) (monthly)
              a) You cook yourself without extra: 500$ x 4 = 2000$
              b) You don't cook yourself or pay extras: 1000$ x 4 = 4000$

              3) Location (monthly)
              a) unmanaged: 50$
              b) semi-managed: 150$
              c) managed: 450$

              4) Dish update (cook, produce and serve) (monthly)
              a) Yourself: Free
              b) Cook/Produce or Serve by someone else: 400$/800$
              c) All done by someone else: 800$/1600$

              5) Menu design and general design (monthly)
              a) Yourself: Free
              b) Mid-range: 400$
              c) Mid-range: 800$

              6) Billing (monthly) (the choice will have an effect on your final profit %)
              a) Third-party with Visa/MC: 100$
              b) Your own billing account: Free

              7) Other partnerships (dish trade, advertising, partnership, etc.) (monthly)
              a) None or trades without expenses: Free
              b) Some: 200$
              c) A lot: 500$

              8) Other general expenses (lawyer, themes, tools, etc.) (monthly)
              a) Minimal: 50$
              b) Some: 100$
              c) A lot: 250$+

              9) Advertising (monthly)
              a) In-house + affiliates: Free
              b) Some bought: 100$
              c) A lot bought: 500$+


              Answer these, calculate your monthly expenses, calculate your # of required member to break even then ask your question again. At the moment there are way to many unknowns. Adjust all numbers to your closest expectations and you'll have a good overview.

              Then answer these:

              10) Will it be part of an existing restaurant chain
              a) Yes: More sales
              b) No: Less sales

              11) What ratio do you expect
              a) 1:500
              b) 1:1000
              c) 1:2500
              d) Other (specify)
              That was awesome.

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              • myleene
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2013
                • 906

                #8
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                • edgeprod
                  Permanently Gone
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 10019

                  #9
                  I am fucking dying here. Comedy gold.

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                  • myleene
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 906

                    #10
                    Get a swedish cook:

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                    • The Porn Nerd
                      Living The Dream
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 19787

                      #11
                      42.

                      The answer is always 42.
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                      • NALEM
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3163

                        #12
                        Oh well, thanks for letting me know L-Pink.
                        "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                        • American Psycho
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 3068

                          #13
                          Stinky pink u r no fun

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                          • Spunky
                            I need a beer
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 133986

                            #14
                            how long is a piece of string?

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                            • Rochard
                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 75733

                              #15
                              Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                              42.

                              The answer is always 42.
                              Wrong. The answer is always three.
                              Herschel Savage
                              Brooklyn, NY

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                              • Rochard
                                Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 75733

                                #16
                                I wouldn't open up a new restaurant on my own unless I had a bottomless pit of money to throw at it. Too risky.

                                However, a new place opened up here in town and ironically.... It's a Hawaiian shaved ice desert thing. I thought it be would similar to a yogurt place but it's much nicer. It's packed every night.
                                Herschel Savage
                                Brooklyn, NY

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                                • ErectMedia
                                  Confirmed Chicago Pimp
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 7100

                                  #17
                                  Restaurant would probably be at the bottom of my list of shit to start/invest in as people suck.

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                                  • The Porn Nerd
                                    Living The Dream
                                    • Jun 2009
                                    • 19787

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                    Wrong. The answer is always three.
                                    But does 3 go into 42? Is 3 a prime number of 42?
                                    I'm terrible at math. I think I have like math dyslexia or something. Thank God for computers. :D

                                    Originally posted by ErectMedia
                                    Restaurant would probably be at the bottom of my list of shit to start/invest in as people suck.
                                    That, and a bookstore.
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                                    • BaldBastard
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 16808

                                      #19
                                      Why own a restaurant when you could just become an affiliate of one?

                                      Meet the pizza-preneur who made $50,000 in four months selling customised Domino̢۪s pizzas through Facebook

                                      All that's needed is a some smart online marketing and your in business..
                                      Please note the affiliate did not give away one pizza ever to make his 12k a month, I guess that marketing techique is left to the business models that have " evolved "
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                                      • jimmycooper
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2010
                                        • 4016

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by American Psycho
                                        How many customers is a realistic goal for a high quality restaurant these days?
                                        If you were starting a new restaurant today, high quality hardcore exclusive food what would be a realistic number of customers to be at a year later?

                                        Don't reply with 'how long is a piece of string?' I'm not talking about some outlier of a unique restaurant, the way chipolte was I'm talking about a restaurant with food that is really good, appeals to a wide audience but not 'wow i never tasted like that'.
                                        You are piece of shit mental retarded.

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                                        • Markul
                                          Likes Pie
                                          • Dec 2007
                                          • 12403

                                          #21
                                          21 is the right answer.
                                          But.... I pulled out...

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                                          • nico-t
                                            emperor of my world
                                            • Aug 2004
                                            • 29903

                                            #22
                                            the taste of the masses is shit.
                                            Start a low quality place serving shit food, it'll be packed every night.

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                                            • CurrentlySober
                                              Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 38944

                                              #23
                                              Don't forget about the mega restaurant down the road, that will steal all your produce & dishes, and give it all away for free in order to entice people interested in restaurants into their crockery and cutlery shop, to sell them plates and kitchen equipment...


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                                              Comment

                                              • bronco67
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Dec 2006
                                                • 29032

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by American Psycho
                                                appeals to a wide audience but not 'wow i never tasted like that'.
                                                It's great to have lofty goals.

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                                                • AmeliaG
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 10663

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                  42.

                                                  The answer is always 42.






                                                  Spooky. This board will only allow 21 images, which is half of 42 and thus half of the answer.
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                                                  • Struggle4Bucks
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                                                    • May 2011
                                                    • 3615

                                                    #26
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                                                    • Rebel D
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 3916

                                                      #27
                                                      Alot has to do with location. Where i am a new restaurant pops up its swamped for a week. If you can give good food and great service you will stay busy. if not you are done in 2 months

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                                                      • American Psycho
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2009
                                                        • 3068

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jimmycooper
                                                        You are piece of shit mental retarded.
                                                        I sometimes tend to agree with you here

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                                                        • Barry-xlovecam
                                                          It's 42
                                                          • Jun 2010
                                                          • 18083

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