What Should The NFL Do With Bill Belichick and the Patriots?

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  • SongRider
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    • Feb 2001
    • 651
    #51
    50 cheating Patriots...

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      • dyna mo
        just a fucking jerk
        • Dec 2008
        • 68184
        #52
        again, I'm not seeing this as a belichick designed cheat. if they deflated the balls, they could have just as easily reinflated them. belichick would not have just not thunk about that part and blown it off.

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          • Axeman
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            • Feb 2004
            • 5201
            #53
            Originally posted by dyna mo
            again, I'm not seeing this as a belichick designed cheat. if they deflated the balls, they could have just as easily reinflated them. belichick would not have just not thunk about that part and blown it off.
            Re-inflated them when? They were all confiscated right after the game ended.
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              • AmateurBros
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                • Jan 2015
                • 399
                #54
                Originally posted by sperbonzo
                Belichick has already proven that he will win at any cost, if he can find any way to skirt the rules and get around the spirit of fairness... I don't know why this was a shock to anyone.

                Nothing will happen. There is too much money behind the Patriots, and Tom Brady.

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                And every team doesn't try to do this in some way every game?
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                  • L-Pink
                    working on my tan
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 39151
                    #55
                    Originally posted by Axeman
                    Getting the ball and spotting it, highly unlikely you'd notice the difference, especially when rushing to get the ball set for the next snap. Its only if you tried to grip, put pressure on it, that you would notice the 2 psi difference.

                    And yes it was the equipment manager of the Colts that noticed it after Jackson gave him the ball.

                    The refs removed a couple balls from the game, and after the game all 12 balls were confiscated to check. Reported 11 of 12 were under inflated by 2 psi. So trying to split up Brady's stats in the game is pointless. They used the balls the whole game.

                    2 psi is a good difference when talking about grip to throw and catch. I hope the NFL comes down really hard on the Pats.
                    Your point is confirmed in this quick test by a yahoo sports guy ...

                    How serious is deflate-gate? Yahoo Sports does its own ball-deflating test | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo Sports


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                      • AmateurBros
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 399
                        #56
                        Originally posted by Axeman
                        The officials did check the levels before the game, marked them and handed them back to the Pats as per usual. Its in that 2 hours between inspection and the game, the balls were deflated by 2 PSI. Of course they should be fined and more. If it was one or two balls, you could argue outside factors. But 11 of the 12? That's blatant cheating.
                        What I'm saying is, it doesn't make sense that the Pats (or any team) inflates them themselves in the first place -- and if the refs are going to check them -- why give them back to the team afterwards? That makes no sense. Something like this shouldn't even be allowed to happen and the NFL allowed for it.
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                          • dyna mo
                            just a fucking jerk
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 68184
                            #57
                            Originally posted by Axeman
                            Re-inflated them when? They were all confiscated right after the game ended.
                            no, they weren't. I was reading about this monday morning and at that time they did not have the balls and belichick was saying we will do whatever the NFL asks.

                            at the same time, your comment supports my view, belichick would have known better than anyone that they would not have had time post-game to reinflate the balls. so again, I'm doubting the veracity of the cheating accusation.

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                              • Axeman
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                                • Feb 2004
                                • 5201
                                #58
                                Originally posted by AmateurBros
                                What I'm saying is, it doesn't make sense that the Pats (or any team) inflates them themselves in the first place -- and if the refs are going to check them -- why give them back to the team afterwards? That makes no sense. Something like this shouldn't even be allowed to happen and the NFL allowed for it.
                                No argument there.
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                                  • L-Pink
                                    working on my tan
                                    • Mar 2005
                                    • 39151
                                    #59
                                    Interesting article on why this is 100% Tom Brady:

                                    "There is no equipment man or sideline attendant or anyone at all in Foxborough (not even Belichick) who would mess with Brady?s footballs without his knowledge, if not active participation. That?s just how it works. You don?t go rogue on the greatest player in team history, particularly with a trip to the Super Bowl on the line. And if they did, Brady would just order them to fix it immediately."

                                    "If he didn?t instruct someone on the Patriots? staff to make the football agreeable to his preferences, then he must have noticed the footballs were underinflated the moment he grabbed one, let alone across an entire first half."

                                    "This is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, known for his preparation and attention to detail. It?s not plausible that he didn?t either know or recognize the situation. There is nothing about the grip of a football that is going to escape him."



                                    Why Tom Brady should be at the center of Deflate-gate - Yahoo Sports


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                                      • thabootypro
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                                        • Dec 2014
                                        • 85
                                        #60
                                        The Patriots was still a better Team that's why the Colts lost. The NFL is making a big deal out of it for nothing I could understand if it was a close game.

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                                          • jimmycooper
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                                            • May 2010
                                            • 4016
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                            Off with their heads!

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                                              • sperbonzo
                                                I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 9750
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by AmateurBros
                                                And every team doesn't try to do this in some way every game?
                                                Nope. Not really.

                                                People noted during the video taping scandal that it was "technically legal" at the time that they were caught, and my question was, "So why weren't ANY other teams doing it?"

                                                There is the letter of the rules, and the spirit of the rules... and everybody knows what is fair and what isn't.

                                                ...And this additional incident brings us to this question. Belichick is a smart guy. If he has actually gotten caught twice now, what other stuff has he gotten away with?



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                                                  • AmateurBros
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                                                    • Jan 2015
                                                    • 399
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                    Nope. Not really.

                                                    People noted during the video taping scandal that it was "technically legal" at the time that they were caught, and my question was, "So why weren't ANY other teams doing it?"

                                                    There is the letter of the rules, and the spirit of the rules... and everybody knows what is fair and what isn't.

                                                    ...And this additional incident brings us to this question. Belichick is a smart guy. If he has actually gotten caught twice now, what other stuff has he gotten away with?



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                                                    You really think teams and players, every game aren't trying to come up with some advantage?
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                                                      • Bryan G
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                                                        • Aug 2005
                                                        • 8338
                                                        #64
                                                        Don't both teams use the same ball?
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                                                          • AmateurBros
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                                                            • Jan 2015
                                                            • 399
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Bryan G
                                                            Don't both teams use the same ball?

                                                            No. Both provide their own.
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                                                              • L-Pink
                                                                working on my tan
                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                • 39151
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Bryan G
                                                                Don't both teams use the same ball?
                                                                3 sets, one for each offense and a separate bunch for both teams punters/kickers

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                                                                  • Bryan G
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2005
                                                                    • 8338
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                    3 sets, one for each offense and a separate bunch for both teams punters/kickers
                                                                    Cool had no idea. Cheers
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                                                                      • The Porn Nerd
                                                                        Living The Dream
                                                                        • Jun 2009
                                                                        • 19784
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Give the Pats the Trifecta:

                                                                        1. Suspend Belicheck for the Super Bowl.
                                                                        2. Suspend Belicheck for the entire 2016 season.
                                                                        3. Give the Colts a draft pick.

                                                                        Now: can you imagine if the Pats WIN this Super Bowl WITHOUT Belicheck coaching them? And then Belicheck has to sit out the entire 2016 season while his team, the defending Super Bowl champions, play an entire season without him?

                                                                        It would kill him and be the best punishment for this Machiavellian, Nixonian douschebag.
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                                                                          • thabootypro
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                                                                            • Dec 2014
                                                                            • 85
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Deflating the balls didn't change the outcome of the game so I think that would be to harsh

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                                                                              • ITraffic
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                                                                                • Jul 2013
                                                                                • 2725
                                                                                #70

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                                                                                  • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                                                    • 19784
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by ITraffic
                                                                                    LOLZ!!

                                                                                    HER balls sure aren't deflated (but Belicheck's balls soon will be)!
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                                                                                      • CDSmith
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                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                        • 51460
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        The league doesn't have the balls to ban him or the Patriots.
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                                                                                          • izombie
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                                                                                            • Sep 2013
                                                                                            • 346
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            If you really want to make the point that this isn't ok, if the Patriots win the Superbowl don't issue them any Superbowl rings. Or give them to Vladimir Putin.
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                                                                                              • hottoddy
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 3049
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                How many times have the Patriots/Belichick been caught cheating now? I remember they were intercepting play calls for quite some time before being caught in 2007.

                                                                                                *Should be a big asterisk in the record books.
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                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                    • 32195
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    You'd think they'd be more proactive against these types of shenanigans.

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