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421Fill 03-14-2003 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by dig420


no. you have the right to swing your foot as much as you want, until it makes contact with my ass. The laws being passed right now are taking away MY rights because YOU are easily propagandized.

Your rights are the same as my rights. And in my opinion, you are very easily propagandized. Alot of what you are saying can be seen both ways. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Joe Sixpack 03-14-2003 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

When you went off after his uncalled for comments about your wife. The same comments you made about those who died on September 11th, 2001. Remember now? Talk a lot of shit until it hits home.

Bummer.

I've said many times that I think the USA had September 11 coming to them after decades of woeful foreign policy. I have NEVER made any reference to any individual who died in those terrorist attacks. Nor have I ever said that anyone who died on September 11 deserved to die that day.

Now please explain how that is in any way similar to Serge dragging a deceased spouse of a GFY poster through the proverbial mud in a callous, mocking tone?

I would never mock the death of a relative of anyone on this board. Frankly I think it's disgusting and takes personal attacks to a new low.

So the comments weren't the same. They were completely different.

FreakinWebmaster 03-14-2003 11:05 PM

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Sly_RJ 03-14-2003 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


I've said many times that I think the USA had September 11 coming to them after decades of woeful foreign policy. I have NEVER made any reference to any individual who died in those terrorist attacks. Nor have I ever said that anyone who died on September 11 deserved to die that day.

Now please explain how that is in any way similar to Serge dragging a deceased spouse of a GFY poster through the mud in a callous, mocking tone?

So the comments weren't the same. They were completely different.

Well whatever, I must have interpreted your extreme anti-American rhetoric as an attack on those individuals who died that day. And I know I'm not the only one who thought so. If that isn't what you want to convey, maybe you should start thinking twice about what you spit out.

dig420 03-14-2003 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Sweet. Then I guess I have the right to say the Pledge of Allegiance in class. Pray in class. I'm not touching anyone, so it's all good. Hooray!

And which of YOUR rights are being taken away because I'M easily propagandized? There you go making silly judgments again. Tsk tsk. Didn't they teach you in school it's not right to judge others?

you can pray and say the pledge of allegiance until you run out of breath and faint as far as I'm concerned. you can jump up and down and quote the Koran until you pass out and I'll say 'you go girl!!' but don't make it a law that *I* have to stand there and mouth the words along with you. Making a class stand and pray to the Judeo-christian god is no different to me than making them stand up and pray to Allah, neither should be allowed.

"...
Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the government's actions has been its attack on the Bill of Rights, the very cornerstone of our American democracy. The War on Terror has seriously compromised the First, Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights of citizens and non-citizens alike. From the USA PATRIOT Act's over-broad definition of domestic terrorism, to the FBI's new powers of search and surveillance, to the indefinite detention of both citizens and non-citizens without formal charges, the principles of free speech, due process, and equal protection under the law have been seriously undermined....

The result of all of these actions has been the deliberate, persistent, and unnecssary erosion of the basic rights that protect every citizen and non-citizen in the United States. A free society demands the rule of law. Without it, democracy is meaningless. The government has consistently refused to recognize the protections afforded by the US Constitution and international law, and in doing so, it has failed in its responsibility to maintain a democratic society that is both open to, and accountable to, the people."

if you want to know what the Patriot Act and other recent Justice Dept. initiatives are taking away from us, read up on it.

http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/whatsnew/re...gG&Content=153

Joe Sixpack 03-14-2003 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Well whatever, I must have interpreted your extreme anti-American rhetoric as an attack on those individuals who died that day. And I know I'm not the only one who thought so. If that isn't what you want to convey, maybe you should start thinking twice about what you spit out.

Well maybe you should read what I write instead of what you think I've written.

In other words, get your facts straight.

Serge proved nothing that day except that he's the scum of the earth.

dig420 03-14-2003 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by turbo


Your rights are the same as my rights. And in my opinion, you are very easily propagandized. Alot of what you are saying can be seen both ways. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

but I'm not trying to take away your rights, now am I?

on the other hand, you're defending the person trying to take away MY rights (and yours too). That's the difference.

Sly_RJ 03-14-2003 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by dig420


you can pray and say the pledge of allegiance until you run out of breath and faint as far as I'm concerned. you can jump up and down and quote the Koran until you pass out and I'll say 'you go girl!!' but don't make it a law that *I* have to stand there and mouth the words along with you. Making a class stand and pray to the Judeo-christian god is no different to me than making them stand up and pray to Allah, neither should be allowed.

Well holy shit. We agree on something.

Maybe I'm not a sheep after all?

But for old time sakes... baaaaaa!

quiet 03-14-2003 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
you can pray and say the pledge of allegiance until you run out of breath and faint as far as I'm concerned. you can jump up and down and quote the Koran until you pass out and I'll say 'you go girl!!' but don't make it a law that *I* have to stand there and mouth the words along with you. Making a class stand and pray to the Judeo-christian god is no different to me than making them stand up and pray to Allah, neither should be allowed.
well said

dig420 03-14-2003 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Well whatever, I must have interpreted your extreme anti-American rhetoric as an attack on those individuals who died that day. And I know I'm not the only one who thought so. If that isn't what you want to convey, maybe you should start thinking twice about what you spit out.

right right.. if we don't like the policies our country is carrying out, we must be glad that all those people got killed and we want to give our country to the Vietnamese. I almost forgot.

Sly_RJ 03-14-2003 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by dig420


right right.. if we don't like the policies our country is carrying out, we must be glad that all those people got killed and we want to give our country to the Vietnamese. I almost forgot.

Now you're the sheep! Thinking you know what I think? Haha. Funny shit.

dig420 03-14-2003 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Well holy shit. We agree on something.

Maybe I'm not a sheep after all?

But for old time sakes... baaaaaa!

lol... ok I'm now an hour behind schedule on my Starbucks run and I'm fiending for caffiene.

must. have. coffee. now.

Sly_RJ 03-14-2003 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by dig420


lol... ok I'm now an hour behind schedule on my Starbucks run and I'm fiending for caffiene.

must. have. coffee. now.

I'm just fucking with you man. Let's talk on Monday about trading some exits. That is, if I'm out of my sheep mode in order to make the trade.

421Fill 03-14-2003 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by dig420


but I'm not trying to take away your rights, now am I?

on the other hand, you're defending the person trying to take away MY rights (and yours too). That's the difference.

Well, actually, by you saying we shouldn't do anything about Sadam does interfere with my right to live peacefully. I live within 1 mile of LAX, and I am constanly worried everytime I see the unmarked suburbans go speeding down La Tijerra towards the airport with their sirens on. You said earlier that there are no ties between Sadam and Osama, but I disagree, and "they"(the terrorists) have already proven that they are willing to do terrible things to US, you and I, American citizens. I believe I should have the right to take willful action to prevent anything like that happening again... like I say, it goes both ways.

Also, I am not defending Bush. I think that the anti-war people are trying to capitalize on the fact that there is a very vulnerable figurehead/scapegoat to use as their basis for their beliefs. It's not all up to Bush, you know... Like I said earlier, just because everyone hates Him, doesn't make what he's doing wrong. I have no political party affilliation, but pressed into it, I'd probably actually be a Democrat/Liberal, too... but the fact that that automatically is supposed to imply that I be against anything Republican is what keeps me out of it to begin with.

escorpio 03-15-2003 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Shall we rid the world of George Bush first? He's the world's greatest warmonger.

He will be gone next election.

TheJimmy 03-15-2003 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by escorpio
He will be gone next election.

no doubt!


p1mpd0g in 04
"Free porn in everyone's computer, and a bottle of lube"


we'll need those plesantries and distraction as I doubt Georgie boy is gonna have the time or ability to fix the 'economy stupid'

athena 03-15-2003 12:59 AM

I think that we can all argee that bush is an idiot, no doubt
however that does not in any way make Sadam innoccent!
I don't know how much you may know about sadam, but he's a real life nut job, seriouly he would kill his own children. I don't like bush, but i trust bush more, he may be a 'c' student and and a cokehead, but i definaly don't trust the one that belongs in a mental institution.

Bush will be just like his father, a one term president.


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