Epoch adds Paypal for US customers

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  • Far-L
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2002
    • 6065
    #61
    Originally posted by Robbie
    So Paypal made them agree that they could only allow their customers to use Paypal if they also used Visa and Mastercard through Epoch?

    Not only doesn't that make any sense...but I doubt it would even be a legal agreement.
    I don't think Paypal would give two shits if someone was a client of Epoch and used MC or Visa. Why on Earth would that even be of any interest to Paypal.

    I'd say it's just a business decision by Epoch. No big deal. It's their company. And I'm sure at 15% processing fees that they want their customers to use them in every way.
    Makes sense.

    Just seems like they would also want to grab the extra business from people who already have their own merchant accounts and don't need their credit card processing.
    It is all about risk management and Paypal stopped processing back in the day because of the issues with companies "blowing up" banks running their own merch accounts. Epoch had to jump through many hoops to get Paypal back and they deserve big praise for their efforts imo.
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      • Rand
        Industry Vet
        • Jan 2002
        • 2663
        #62
        Originally posted by Zuzana Designs
        Fantastic news from Epoch! Rand I'm going to send you an email over the weekend with a few ideas I want to talk to you about.

        Thanks! I look forward to hearing about your ideas.
        -- Rand


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          • nikki99
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            • Nov 2004
            • 23087
            #63
            good news
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              • faxxaff
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2002
                • 2134
                #64
                Originally posted by Far-L
                It is all about risk management and Paypal stopped processing back in the day because of the issues with companies "blowing up" banks running their own merch accounts. Epoch had to jump through many hoops to get Paypal back and they deserve big praise for their efforts imo.
                I used them as a processor for a small cam site back then. They told me they were fearing for their reputation. We had around 100 transactions a day and not a single chargeback within a year.
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                  • czarina
                    Webmaster Extraordinaire
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 10752
                    #65
                    that's awesome news! I wonder how long before other CC processors add paypal as well.

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                      • Robbie
                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 20960
                        #66
                        Originally posted by faxxaff
                        I used them as a processor for a small cam site back then. They told me they were fearing for their reputation. We had around 100 transactions a day and not a single chargeback within a year.
                        Yeah, I remember we all lost a lot of money back in the day when PayPal stopped processing online adult memberships

                        As I understood it, it was for "moral" reasons. They were just starting to merge PayPal and Ebay together and didn't want Ebay "tainted".

                        Of course today you can buy porn, adult toys, etc. all on Ebay. But they put the freakin' hammer down back then.

                        It was a nasty "one-two" punch coming so close to the time that American Express stopped processing for adult.
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                          • The Porn Nerd
                            Living The Dream
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 19784
                            #67
                            Originally posted by Robbie
                            Yeah, I remember we all lost a lot of money back in the day when PayPal stopped processing online adult memberships

                            As I understood it, it was for "moral" reasons. They were just starting to merge PayPal and Ebay together and didn't want Ebay "tainted".

                            Of course today you can buy porn, adult toys, etc. all on Ebay. But they put the freakin' hammer down back then.

                            It was a nasty "one-two" punch coming so close to the time that American Express stopped processing for adult.
                            MAN I wish American Express would process Adult!
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                              • MaDalton
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                                • Feb 2004
                                • 39861
                                #68
                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                MAN I wish American Express would process Adult!
                                I missed the Glory Days.
                                get a EU company and use Paysite Cash - i have American Express for my shop
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                                  • tghy012
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jul 2014
                                    • 71
                                    #69
                                    good news

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                                      • Jel
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2007
                                        • 6904
                                        #70
                                        just noticed that the paypal logo doesn't show on the billing page when on a mobile device (though it is there in the drop-down menu payment method) - can't help thinking that logo would be very handy to have on page load rather than hidden away in the drop-down menu

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                                          • venus
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 3112
                                            #71
                                            they changed their TOS, check it out on their site

                                            Originally posted by Robbie
                                            How is this possible?

                                            Paypal is very, very strict about adult online. So how is Epoch getting them to change their policy?
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                                              • AmeliaG
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 10662
                                                #72
                                                Originally posted by Jel
                                                just noticed that the paypal logo doesn't show on the billing page when on a mobile device (though it is there in the drop-down menu payment method) - can't help thinking that logo would be very handy to have on page load rather than hidden away in the drop-down menu

                                                Showing on iPad for me. Might need to customize link.
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                                                  • mamaliga
                                                    la gente está muy loca
                                                    • Mar 2011
                                                    • 1322
                                                    #73
                                                    Im unable to send a mail to epoch. wtf

                                                    Message not sent. Server replied:

                                                    Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
                                                    550 5.1.1 <>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table

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                                                      • The Porn Nerd
                                                        Living The Dream
                                                        • Jun 2009
                                                        • 19784
                                                        #74
                                                        So how is Paypal via Epoch working out for everyone?
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                                                          • gda63378
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Jun 2015
                                                            • 18
                                                            #75
                                                            Still BANNING a lot of adult content

                                                            I recently tried to get Epoch for my own site... I sell adult paperbacks/comics & e-Books. Majority of my sales are e-Books. Epoch stated I have too many 'TABOO' listings (incest, bestiality, etc). I asked what if I remove the taboo listings... still said NO!! They stated that the manpower associated with e-Books is just too much compared with video. They could not answer exactly why e-Book downloads requires more 'manpower' than sites that host dvd's or video downloads. Was a waste of time.

                                                            My God... how nice it'd be to have Visa/MC/Discover AND Paypal!! My sales would skyrocket. But, alas, the Morality Police are still winning.

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