difference between fighting a monarchy and a freely elected democracy.

And if these liberals are so in favor of revolution, how come they still have a bug up their ass over the south and the confedrate flag etc.



Anyways, my basic point is I think the left is intentionally harming this country out of a hatred of bush and in hopes of having a better chance in the next election.

These celebs would not be saying dick if it was a demcrat president, just as they didnt when clinton bombed milosovic.

By that definition I'd say Ashhahahahaha is a traitor since he seems to trample on every consitutional right (except for the right to bear arms). What could be more unpatriotic than the Patriot Act? Fuck the freedoms our forefathers fought for....who gives a shit?


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Ben Franklin


Fuck FREEDOM HATERS....I don't care if they're liberal or conservative. If you can't deal with the constitution, they should find another country and stop trying to destroy ours.

Dixie Chicks rock :thumbsup fuck Bush:321GFY and fuck all you guys that are bashing them cuz they use their freedom of speech.:321GFY

Please stop making me defend liberals, since I'm NOT A LIBERAL! But, playing devil's advocate, you do realize that one could make the same argument about certain conservatives during the Clinton administration who basically made it their only priority to try and get Clinton out of office.

What is that difference? Please explain.



Are you confusing "liberal" with "black people"?

Clinton never removed it from Arkansas did he?

Did he actually join the ACLU? I knew he was working with them b/c of the Patriot Act, but did he actually join? Wow.



Well, you know the end is near when JeremySF begins to spend more time defending liberals' rights to freedom of expression than actually advancing his own political agenda. WTF is this world coming to?

Supposedly one of the celebrities admitted in an interview a few weeks ago that it wasn't hip to protest against Clinton.

Hehe.

Um, I been watching the news all day and I didn't see where the Dixie?s comments killed any American, hurt any soldier or make us surrender, so where exactly is the harm?

And Susan Sarandon said plenty about Clinton; you just don't seem to remember.

And can you please tell me what a REAL American is like and give me a few names so I know who I want to think like?

The president of the largest country station in the philly area came on the radio today and announced that the request for banning the dixie chicks from the station has been so over whelming that they have pulled them from the rotation..

In place of there spots the american anthym will be played... lol

1orglaugh :1orglaugh

rooster come on man, enough is enough. You're sounding silly at desperation.

Let the Dixie Chicks bash anyone they want. Who would ever take 3 ugly hags called the "Dixie Chicks" seriously anyway?

Torn, these are trying times, and definitely not the best time to go overseas and make anti american drive by statements.

The dixi chicks will now suffer greatly because of their stupidity.


The buying of france products and the tourism to france will go down dramatically.


"And can you please tell me what a REAL American is like and give me a few names so I know who I want to think like?"


A real american is basically anyone that pays their taxes, and dosent commit treason.

Seriously, who the hell are the Dixie Chicks anyway? Have you been listeing to Carter lately?? Now maybe he's a legitimate target, but who the fuck gives a shit about three hags?

He gave you the definition of a "real" American.

Someone who tows the party line. Someone who accepts and does not question the wisdom of his freely elected officials.

I found a picture of the Ultimate Patriot, UBERMerican by Rooster's definition. Doesnt pay taxes though. Probably black or Mexican sheep.

http://www.ci.new-bedford.ma.us/serv...p-portrait.jpg

``Wide Open Spaces,'' is that about the from ear to ear. I mean you can say anything that you want but, In these times we have to support each other. I don't support the war either but, it is my gov and country so I just go with it they (the government) is going to do what they wish anyway.

Shit I think Bush is a fucking piece of shit is that consider treason in your mind also, come on dude get a clue.:321GFY

:1orglaugh

so are the Dixes traitors?

Yeah, he's now a informational and data privacy specialist for the ACLU. He's not visible yet because the law prevents former congressmen from directly lobbying congress for a year after they leave office. They're also after Dick Armey.

Isnt treason a criminal offense?

I say lock those hick motherfuckers up. There is no room for free speech in this country.

"so are the Dixes traitors?"

No, they are just idiots. I suppose they could be called bad americans.

But I sense some of these celebs heading down the jane fonda path.

lol, and then you just define treason so broadly that it can apply to anyone you dislike. Like this is some sort of subtle tactic thats going to just slip by... hahahaha. What a kook you are.

John Walker wasn't guilty of treason, nor was Jane Fonda, neither are the Dixie Chicks.

threads like these never fail to amaze me. hahaha.

So who is a good american?

sorry for all the questions but gosh darnit all, I need to know who I can like and dislike and who I should let tell me how to think and act.

I do support the war, but IMHO you can say whatever you want, whenever you want. It's your right. But, I also have the right to think you're a tosser.

When it comes to the anti-war protestors, do they annoy me? A little, but I don't really care that much right now. If they keep protesting once the war actually starts, then they will REALLY annoy me. IMHO once war actually starts that's when you shut the fuck up and support eachother. Of course, you're free not to.

Just my :2 cents:

I'M A GOOD AMERICAN G-D DAMN IT! AND EVERYONE ELSE IS A FUCKING TRAITOR.

:pimp

Nah. Jane Fonda had balls. I'll give her credit for that. The new age celebrity versions of Fonda don't have the same balls.

I remember back in early 2000, several celebrities were publicly stating and emphasizing that they would move out of the country if Bush became President. Looks like they're still here...

What are you talking about? They did move out of America, but for only a week or two to the Caribbean. They never said how long, did they?

I thought I was a good American, I pay my taxes, served my country in the last gulf war, fly my US Flag and MIA flag, eat apple pie and vote.

But Dammit it all, I'm against this war, and this King ..er... President so now I feel bad.

:(

Am I traitor for believing in the US Constitution?????

Haha! Ok, I stand corrected.

Funny.

It not so much what they said as is was where they said it!
It may have been a littlie different if they would have said it in the USA.

I have my own views on Bush and yes I am from Texas.
While he has done somethings that are maybe not the smartist I see no reason for someone to call him a dumb ass or say there ashamed of him. At least he's got balls.

It's up to you who gets in office and runs the country.
If you don't vote, then you don't have any right to say anything.

Want to make a difference? Then Vote!

Oz

you know...i'll just try to be what I think it a good person and if that makes me a good American so be it.

Right, I agree with that!

Oz

That's the way my family felt during the revolution. They were called "Loyalists." After the war they were called "Canadians." Had all their property seized and were forced out of the country. This is not taught in American schools. Our history books make it seem as if everyone in the colonies hated Britain and wanted independence. This is simply not true. Many were loyal to the Crown and wished to remain English. They were persectuted after the war. A patriot is just a terrorist that won.

Yes there is free speech in the USA. She was oversea's when she said what she said. Why in the hell would someone want to go to another country and dog this countrys leader?

If she had done it here in the USA it might have been different.
I don't even think her statement was sincere now. Once she realized that she and the Dixie Chicks were going down she says she sorry.

Frankly, I think she is one beer short of a six pack.

Oz

Dixie Chick's SUCK ASS!

How the fuck did I miss this thread?

I haven't laughed so hard in a long time!

So let me summarise:

A good American = conformist sheep
Traitor = Anyone who disagrees with the US government
Conservative = cocksmoker
Dixie Chicks = 3 ugly hags
George Bush = warmonger

God Bless you all!

Most of the world does hate Bush.
What the Dixie Chick said was very accurate.

If someone said, "I like Bush and support war on Iraq" should everyone who disagrees with that opinion start going hostile towards them?

BTW if you hate people who are against the war or Bush, you pretty much hate the world.
Even Tony Blair who supports the US is facing a revolt within his own party.
Almost everyone is against the war, including a good number of Americans. The Americans who speak their mind are frowned upon and treated bad.

If you ask bush or anyone who supports bush, you're either on their side or you are a terrorist... lol

friggin' republicans... :321GFY

I dont know why that is so hard for people to grasp.

If you ask a liberal or anyone opposed to Bush, you're either on their side or a mindless sheep...

Friggin' liberals.

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by escorpio
A patriot is just a terrorist that won.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by escorpio
I dont know why that is so hard for people to grasp.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hmmm.....but a patriot doesn't intentionally kill illegitimate targets like women, children, the elderly, innocent bystanders.

Unless of course you live in a major city. Just about every major city in the country including NYC passed anti-war resolutions. In the cities, if you're for the war, you're treated like a pariah.

Not in the history books they have written, no. Loyalists were terrorized during the revolution. This is a historical fact that is not taught in American schools. And when it is taught it is glamorized (e.g. Boston Tea Party). I am an American and proud to be one. Just using the American revolution to point out that when you win you are no longer the bad guy AND you get to write the history books!

I roadied for a band called Slash's Snakepit in 2001 after Bush took office. We had three dates in Texas (Dallas,Houston,Austin). The first night in Dallas the singer, Rod, says "So this is were that guy in the White House is from?" Crowd silence. "Do you LIKE that guy down here" Muted muttering from crowd. I am thinking Jesus Christ, Rod, SHUT THE FUCK UP! You're gonna get us killed by these mullet sportin' cowfucks! "...well I think he's A FUCKIN' ASSHOLE!!!" Crowd cheers and goes nuts like Pam Anderson just walked out naked. Same all three night in Texas with the biggest response in Austin, the capitol. This was way before he started stepping on his dick AND in his home state.

Haha! You're using that population sample as a gauge to wage popularity? Haha! Don't get me wrong, I probably fit in with that same group of people... college aged "metal" lovers that can't stop partying and having sex.

How many of those people do you think actually vote?

Nah, I understand that a club of 800 buttrockers(3 registered voters) isn't indicitive of the population as a whole. I was just very surprised at the time that a black guy could denounce the biggest, baddest Texan from a stage in Texas and get a response like that. Not exactly a good sign for ol' Georgie-boy.