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Old 01-09-2015, 07:48 AM   #1
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Can individuals in France carry concealed firearms?
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Old 01-09-2015, 07:51 AM   #2
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i know what you mean, if everyone will have gun, all will be good now, yeah? or those terrorists would not have gun?
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Can individuals in France carry concealed firearms?
try google ... does wonder :

entre 18 et 20 millions d'armes à feu circulent en France, soit une pour trois personnes

Babelfish can help ... unless you are trolling ... then let it begin!
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Old 01-09-2015, 08:06 AM   #5
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Indeed. How is a person supposed to defend themselves against somebody with a gun - without a firearm they really have no chance to do anything. So essentially, their right to protect themselves is taken away.
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Indeed. How is a person supposed to defend themselves against somebody with a gun - without a firearm they really have no chance to do anything. So essentially, their right to protect themselves is taken away.
lol man, but in europe we dont have hundreds years old laws saying everyone must cary gun to protect himself against indians! europe is, or at least was not, a warzone ... but once it changed, i am sure everyone will have gun and granade in no time ... whole generations cannot cary a gun just because maybe in future may some religious dicks get mad!
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In France, carrying a concealed firearm in a public place is allowed, subject to a valid permit

Guns in France ? Firearms, gun law and gun control
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its really not a point at all, its these blood thirsty muslims thats the issue
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its really not a point at all, its these blood thirsty muslims thats the issue
There is nothing better than a surprise handgun when a crazy extremist savage isn't expecting it - Muslim or any other religion.
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Overview of gun laws by nation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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its really not a point at all, its these blood thirsty muslims thats the issue
Terrorists are the issue, not the muslims.

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lol man, but in europe we dont have hundreds years old laws saying everyone must cary gun to protect himself against indians! europe is, or at least was not, a warzone ... but once it changed, i am sure everyone will have gun and granade in no time ... whole generations cannot cary a gun just because maybe in future may some religious dicks get mad!
Europe has been a war zone in one way or another for the vast majority of its history. And thats one of the reasons that the gun controls are much tighter than in other countries.

Sadly Mexico has a HUGE no gun policy. so the only people that have them are the bad guys and the citizens are being slaughtered.
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lets be careful when we lump people together here

Switzerland IS in Europe and they have the highest rate of gun ownership in the world. Most males in switzerland own fully automatic weapons.

yes i know its because almost all are conscripted into the swiss army at adulthood but when was the last time anyone fucked with the Swiss people? they are legally neutral and stay outta everyones business
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with an autorization (for example for people like jewelers)
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Indeed. How is a person supposed to defend themselves against somebody with a gun - without a firearm they really have no chance to do anything. So essentially, their right to protect themselves is taken away.
In Europe we have police and army. And people can of course defend themselves, just not carry guns around.
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Europe has been a war zone in one way or another for the vast majority of its history. And thats one of the reasons that the gun controls are much tighter than in other countries.

Sadly Mexico has a HUGE no gun policy. so the only people that have them are the bad guys and the citizens are being slaughtered.
yes, i meant it in that way, that we are peaceful when there is no official war no gun violence and so, so no needs to have gun at home ...

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lets be careful when we lump people together here

Switzerland IS in Europe and they have the highest rate of gun ownership in the world. Most males in switzerland own fully automatic weapons.

yes i know its because almost all are conscripted into the swiss army at adulthood but when was the last time anyone fucked with the Swiss people? they are legally neutral and stay outta everyones business
swiss home defense is their army, so everyone is something like active in the army for whole life, so still armed ... and, no problems there, happy people ... but i think that its because every terrorist have money there and dont want to fuck with their banks
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Europe has been a war zone in one way or another for the vast majority of its history. And thats one of the reasons that the gun controls are much tighter than in other countries.
No, that is not the reason; the reason is that European countries are more uniform and bonded societies, not just bunch of random people stacked together. There is not such assumption that people would or should have to shoot each other within the society. We shoot people from other societies.
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lol man, but in europe we dont have hundreds years old laws saying everyone must cary gun to protect himself against indians! europe is, or at least was not, a warzone ...
but wait, these laws are to protect them from the evil government !!! that one that one time will try to abuse its power !!

like they do now with being surveilled 24h/day. they also fight for their rights

edit: actually they do it better than people in UK.....
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In Europe we have police and army. And people can of course defend themselves, just not carry guns around.
Sometimes you need a gun to defend yourself. No black belt is going to help you when facing a some nut with an AK. Enjoy.

Guess what - they got police and army in Canada, US, and even in France too.
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Sadly Mexico has a HUGE no gun policy. so the only people that have them are the bad guys and the citizens are being slaughtered.
And you think if every other citizen in Mexico had a firearm it would be any different?
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Check out civilized countries like UK, or Japan that have strict laws against guns and their firearm related death compared to primitive societies at the top and you will easily draw a conclusion about quality of life

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Sometimes you need a gun to defend yourself. No black belt is going to help you when facing a some nut with an AK. Enjoy.

Guess what - they got police and army in Canada, US, and even in France too.
Yes, sometimes gun would be good, or at least better. But shit things still happens, no amount of guns isn't going to change that. Have you heard about chance?

This is not war, but this is still fine example: during WWII, 75 % of all british casualties were inflicted by shells, bombs and mortar rounds. Of course you can take cover, not to place yourself to most obvious places, etc., but this demonstrates that not all things are in your hands, no matter how Rambo you are.

So, the bottom line is: yes, having a gun helps in some situations, but it also brings illusion about safety/survival, that it ain't going to bring. You are seeking that illusion and defending hauling guns around, based on that illusion. In Europe, people are brave enough to take their chances mentally and literally.

And I have nothing against guns in general; I have two lying on the floor as I am doing some maintenance to those (oiling stocks), but I ain't hauling those around in public places to have some illusion about safety.
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what are the stats about how many terrorist attacks were prevented or stopped by civilians using guns in the US?
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