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  • crockett
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    • May 2003
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    #1

    Armed 2yo shoots mother @ Walmart

    If only the mother had a gun, or perhaps if one of the customers had a gun they could of taken out the toddler.

    Police: Boy, 2, accidentally kills mom in Hayden, Idaho Wal-Mart - CBS News
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  • MikeOMania
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    • Nov 2013
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    #2
    A 2y old one? WTF??????

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    • fitzmulti
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      • Jan 2003
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      #3
      Crazy, sad, story...but I wouldn't have called that kid "armed"...just using his arm to dig around that purse...


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      • fitzmulti
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        #4
        Originally posted by MikeOMania
        A 2y old one? WTF??????
        Read the article...not the thread title...


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        • Rochard
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          • Dec 2001
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          #5
          Anyone ever notice a lot of this crap goes down at Wal Mart?
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          • Barry-xlovecam
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            • Jun 2010
            • 18083

            #6
            I suppose he opened the safety first then pulled the trigger

            Why would she need a CCW in "The shooting occurred in the Wal-Mart in Hayden, Idaho, a town about 40 miles northeast of Spokane, Washington." anyway?

            Lot of bears in the WalMart there?

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            • blackmonsters
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              • Nov 2002
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              #7
              That's sad.

              I don't think it's very easy for a two year old to fire a gun with the safety on.
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              • blackmonsters
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                #8
                Originally posted by Rochard
                Anyone ever notice a lot of this crap goes down at Wal Mart?
                Yeah, it's pretty amazing that all this stupid shit happens where all the stupid fuckers shop.

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                • hadden
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                  • Aug 2006
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                  #9
                  How strange

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                  • MiamiBoyz
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                    • Oct 2012
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                    #10
                    This brought a smile to my face

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                    • 420
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 11571

                      #11
                      How do we know it was an accident?
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                      • blackmonsters
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by 420
                        How do we know it was an accident?
                        Maybe it was self defense because the mom was reaching for the gun too.

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                        • bronco67
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                          • Dec 2006
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                          #13
                          Idaho...makes sense.

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                          • crockett
                            in a van by the river
                            • May 2003
                            • 76818

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                            I suppose he opened the safety first then pulled the trigger

                            Why would she need a CCW in "The shooting occurred in the Wal-Mart in Hayden, Idaho, a town about 40 miles northeast of Spokane, Washington." anyway?

                            Lot of bears in the WalMart there?
                            It depends on the gun, but my hand gun for instance the safety is the hammer. For this reason I don't leave the gun with a bullet in the chamber. In fact I don't even leave a clip in the gun unless I'm using it.

                            This woman obviously had the gun cocked and loaded as a 2 yo wouldn't have been able to shoot the gun by just fiddling around with it in her purse. This is yet another case that shows people whom carry guns for self defense are more likely to die from their own gun than someone else's.

                            I do support gun ownership, but facts are facts. Almost all accidents are caused by gun owners whom are irresponsible and I bet every single one of them belived they are responsible.
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                            • directfiesta
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                              • Oct 2002
                              • 30135

                              #15
                              So sad ....

                              If only there would have been another 2 year old " good " kid with a gun , he could have stopped it !

                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                              • blackmonsters
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                                • Nov 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by directfiesta
                                So sad ....

                                If only there would have been another 2 year old " good " kid with a gun , he could have stopped it !

                                Maybe a 10 year old could have stopped it but he was run over by a police car.
                                So let's ban police cars.

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                                • 420
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                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 11571

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                  Maybe it was self defense because the mom was reaching for the gun too.

                                  Doesn't the baby have to be reaching for the mom's gun for that to work?

                                  She probably bought the kid the wrong toys for xmas. This could be a revenge killing. Why did the investigators jump to the conclusion that it's an accident without investigating further?
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                                  • sandman!
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                                    • Mar 2001
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                                    #18
                                    your an idiot

                                    Originally posted by crockett
                                    If only the mother had a gun, or perhaps if one of the customers had a gun they could of taken out the toddler.

                                    Police: Boy, 2, accidentally kills mom in Hayden, Idaho Wal-Mart - CBS News
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                                    • SuckOnThis
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                                      • Oct 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by sandman!
                                      your an idiot

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                                      • JIBCONTENT
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                                        #20
                                        So crazy

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                                        • Joshua G
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                          Anyone ever notice a lot of this crap goes down at Wal Mart?
                                          Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                                          This brought a smile to my face
                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                          Idaho...makes sense.
                                          love these quotes. thanks.

                                          i feel bad for the kid that lost his mom, & is gonna be fucked up for life, all cause of an accident. shame. but mom is to blame. & darwin has no mercy.

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                                          • crockett
                                            in a van by the river
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 76818

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by SuckOnThis
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                                            • crockett
                                              in a van by the river
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 76818

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by sandman!
                                              your an idiot
                                              Actually I'd say the mother was an idiot, for carrying a loaded gun in her purse and letting her 2yo fiddle with stuff in that same purse.
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                                              • 420
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                                                • Mar 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bronco67
                                                Idaho...makes sense.
                                                Town population isn't even over 9000. Everyone carries guns because potato farmers are easy targets for armed robbers.
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                                                • dyna mo
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                                                  #25
                                                  kids these days are spoiled. i didn't get to play with my mom's gun until i was 4, and then it was only in the yard.

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                                                  • aka123
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                                                    #26
                                                    Why people keep their guns loaded? Isn't it enough that there are ammo in the magazine?

                                                    In hunting it is generally advised to unload the gun even when you jump across a stream, climb over a fence, etc. And then other people carry loaded guns in their everyday tasks?

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                                                    • just a punk
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                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 32393

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                                      If only the mother had a gun, or perhaps if one of the customers had a gun they could of taken out the toddler.

                                                      Police: Boy, 2, accidentally kills mom in Hayden, Idaho Wal-Mart - CBS News
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                                                      • just a punk
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                                                        • Jun 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by aka123
                                                        Why people keep their guns loaded? Isn't it enough that there are ammo in the magazine?

                                                        In hunting it is generally advised to unload the gun even when you jump across a stream, climb over a fence, etc. And then other people carry loaded guns in their everyday tasks?
                                                        A bullet in the barrel and cocked. She got what she deserved.
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                                                        • crockett
                                                          in a van by the river
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 76818

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by aka123
                                                          Why people keep their guns loaded? Isn't it enough that there are ammo in the magazine?

                                                          In hunting it is generally advised to unload the gun even when you jump across a stream, climb over a fence, etc. And then other people carry loaded guns in their everyday tasks?
                                                          Because many people whom require carrying a gun to feel safe, tend to fantasize that they will end up in some Westren shoot out or Rambo fight scene where that extra second required to chamber a round will make all the diffrence in the world. These people are of course irresponsible and shouldn't be carrying a gun in the first place.

                                                          There is also the chance that she was carrying a revolver of some sort so only the safety had to be turned off and trigger pulled. Either way she was obviously not responsible enough to carry a gun as she either let the toddler fiddle around in her purse with a loaded gun or she left her purse with the child out of sight long enough for the kid to get it.
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                                                          • PR_Glen
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by crockett
                                                            Because many people whom require carrying a gun to feel safe, tend to fantasize that they will end up in some Westren shoot out or Rambo fight scene where that extra second required to chamber a round will make all the diffrence in the world. These people are of course irresponsible and shouldn't be carrying a gun in the first place.

                                                            There is also the chance that she was carrying a revolver of some sort so only the safety had to be turned off and trigger pulled. Either way she was obviously not responsible enough to carry a gun as she either let the toddler fiddle around in her purse with a loaded gun or she left her purse with the child out of sight long enough for the kid to get it.
                                                            you think a 2 year old could pull the trigger on a revolver with one hand in the purse?
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                                                            • SuckOnThis
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                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 6844

                                                              #31
                                                              My guess is this 2 year old thug was upset that his mom wouldn't buy him some skittles.

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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                you think a 2 year old could pull the trigger on a revolver with one hand in the purse?
                                                                If it's a hair trigger.

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                                                                • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • tony286
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I dont care if people want guns but there should be a 8 hr class every Saturday for 8 weeks and a test you have to pass to own a gun. These people aren't taught to respect the tool they have and that's why stupid shit like this happens. Also the 8 week class would scare away the crazies and out of anger killings.

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                                                                    • crockett
                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 76818

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by tony286
                                                                      I dont care if people want guns but there should be a 8 hr class every Saturday for 8 weeks and a test you have to pass to own a gun. These people aren't taught to respect the tool they have and that's why stupid shit like this happens. Also the 8 week class would scare away the crazies and out of anger killings.
                                                                      I have my Concealed weapon permit and of course took the class required which in my opinion was a joke. It seemed the entire class was about how to cover your own ass if you shoot someone and where you can and can't carry.

                                                                      There was not much gun safety training and next to no hands on testing. The hands on was everyone lining up at the gun range to shoot a 22 cal revolver. The instructor actually held the gun and you pulled the trigger twice. It was a joke. It was bam bam you hit the target you passed..
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                                                                      • AaronM
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by crockett
                                                                        This is yet another case that shows people whom carry guns for self defense are more likely to die from their own gun than someone else's.

                                                                        That's some serious horse shit you're spewing there son.

                                                                        Kindly do some actual research before spouting off random inaccurate crap like this.

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                                                                        • AaronM
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                          I have my Concealed weapon permit and of course took the class required which in my opinion was a joke. It seemed the entire class was about how to cover your own ass if you shoot someone and where you can and can't carry.

                                                                          There was not much gun safety training and next to no hands on testing. The hands on was everyone lining up at the gun range to shoot a 22 cal revolver. The instructor actually held the gun and you pulled the trigger twice. It was a joke. It was bam bam you hit the target you passed..

                                                                          Now that I completely agree with. Most CCW education requirements are complete bullshit. Few states require you to show firearms proficiency and none, that I'm aware of, require any training on how to properly draw from concealment etc...

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                                                                          • crockett
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                                                                            • May 2003
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                            That's some serious horse shit you're spewing there son.

                                                                            Kindly do some actual research before spouting off random inaccurate crap like this.
                                                                            Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed - science-in-society - 06 October 2009 - New Scientist

                                                                            Overall, Branas's study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens. When the team looked at shootings in which victims had a chance to defend themselves, their odds of getting shot were even higher.

                                                                            Now think of what you are arguing Aaron..

                                                                            It's pretty common sense to see that owning a gun increases the chance you will be shot by that gun. If you don't own a gun, it's pretty hard to shoot yourself with out one now isn't it? You can't accidendly shoot yourself or someone else if you don't have a gun.

                                                                            Clear example is the case this topic is about. If the woman wasn't carrying a gun she would be alive right now.

                                                                            So how can you call that BS?
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                                                                            • AaronM
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                                              So how can you call that BS?
                                                                              Because of this part right here....

                                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                                              It's pretty common sense to see that owning a gun increases the chance you will be shot by that gun.

                                                                              Nowhere in that article does it say that owning a gun increases your chances of being shot by that gun. The title seems accurate though. "Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed"

                                                                              One thing it's saying that does make sense is this:

                                                                              "While it may be that the type of people who carry firearms are simply more likely to get shot, it may be that guns give a sense of empowerment that causes carriers to overreact in tense situations, or encourages them to visit neighbourhoods they probably shouldn't, Branas speculates."


                                                                              Then there's this:

                                                                              "We don't have an answer as to whether guns are protective or perilous," Branas says. "This study is a beginning."


                                                                              So, you're not only "putting words into their mouth" but you're also assuming this research is accurate when those researching it say it's not complete.

                                                                              Obviously if there's no gun around, you're not going to get shot. That's a pretty dumb thing to even bring into the conversation.

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                                                                              • bronco67
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                                                                                • Dec 2006
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Why does someone need a gun to go shopping? In fucking Idaho....

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                                                                                • bronco67
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                                                                                  • Dec 2006
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                  Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed - science-in-society - 06 October 2009 - New Scientist

                                                                                  Overall, Branas's study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens. When the team looked at shootings in which victims had a chance to defend themselves, their odds of getting shot were even higher.

                                                                                  Now think of what you are arguing Aaron..

                                                                                  It's pretty common sense to see that owning a gun increases the chance you will be shot by that gun. If you don't own a gun, it's pretty hard to shoot yourself with out one now isn't it? You can't accidendly shoot yourself or someone else if you don't have a gun.

                                                                                  Clear example is the case this topic is about. If the woman wasn't carrying a gun she would be alive right now.

                                                                                  So how can you call that BS?
                                                                                  That's usually my argument also. When you buy a gun, your chances of being shot go way up. Your chances of shooting someone you love by accident have increased from 0.01% to 1000%.

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                                                                                  • bronco67
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                                                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                                                    • 29032

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    They would ban pregnancy before banning guns. But if she had kept her legs closed 2 years and 9 months ago, she would still be alive.

                                                                                    and Walmart should change their slogan to "Come for the low prices, and the shootings".

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                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                      • 76818

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                      Because of this part right here....




                                                                                      Nowhere in that article does it say that owning a gun increases your chances of being shot by that gun. The title seems accurate though. "Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed"

                                                                                      One thing it's saying that does make sense is this:

                                                                                      "While it may be that the type of people who carry firearms are simply more likely to get shot, it may be that guns give a sense of empowerment that causes carriers to overreact in tense situations, or encourages them to visit neighbourhoods they probably shouldn't, Branas speculates."


                                                                                      Then there's this:

                                                                                      "We don't have an answer as to whether guns are protective or perilous," Branas says. "This study is a beginning."


                                                                                      So, you're not only "putting words into their mouth" but you're also assuming this research is accurate when those researching it say it's not complete.

                                                                                      Obviously if there's no gun around, you're not going to get shot. That's a pretty dumb thing to even bring into the conversation.
                                                                                      You can try to twist words if you want, but basic facts are basic facts. If you have a gun, being own it, carry it or store it in your closet you are more at risk of being shot or someone else getting shot by that gun than if you don't own a gun.
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                                                                                      • seeandsee
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                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • MetaMan
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Aaron you're wrong again. Get over it.

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                                                                                          • brassmonkey
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            did they say what kind of gun? must have had the safety off. night terrors for that kid.
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                                                                                            • AaronM
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                              You can try to twist words if you want, but basic facts are basic facts. If you have a gun, being own it, carry it or store it in your closet you are more at risk of being shot or someone else getting shot by that gun than if you don't own a gun.

                                                                                              LOL

                                                                                              I'm not the one twisting the words, you are. Actually, you aren't so much twisting them as adding to them then drawing your own conclusions.

                                                                                              Whatever duuuude.

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                                                                                              • AaronM
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by MetaMan
                                                                                                Aaron you're wrong again. Get over it.

                                                                                                I am huh?

                                                                                                That's interesting because I quoted the article and quoted the OP and neither of them are saying the same thing.

                                                                                                Where exactly am I wrong about that?

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                                                                                                • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                  [T]his woman obviously had the gun cocked and loaded as a 2 yo wouldn't have been able to shoot the gun by just fiddling around with it in her purse. This is yet another case that shows people whom carry guns for self defense are more likely to die from their own gun than someone else's. ...
                                                                                                  Only a lunatic would pack a cocked handgun in their purse ... If that is true, the gene pool was improved this week

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                                                                                                  • MetaMan
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                    I am huh?

                                                                                                    That's interesting because I quoted the article and quoted the OP and neither of them are saying the same thing.

                                                                                                    Where exactly am I wrong about that?
                                                                                                    Look it doesnt matter about his irrelevent comment. Facts do not matter. Only made up stats do.

                                                                                                    To me you are wrong. Hes wrong. Im right. Its simple as pie.

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