i cannot imagine that due to bad weather a plane can go down without any mayday - but the Air France flight back then was the same. and there it was a pilots fault
i cannot imagine that due to bad weather a plane can go down without any mayday - but the Air France flight back then was the same. and there it was a pilots fault
true but still with all the technology it seems they are clueless.... they gotta change some shit around with these planes regarding tracking em..
true but still with all the technology it seems they are clueless.... they gotta change some shit around with these planes regarding tracking em..
a friend of mine is engineer for Honeywell and developing new shit for planes - i asked him why they do not simply additionally stream the flight recorder information via satellite - should not be too difficult when they can send already engine data and other maintenance information.
he said too much information to transmit and also it takes usually something like 10 years before new technology is approved and introduced
and: at least until now it almost never happened that a plane got totally lost and no black box could be found - that technology would cost more than not finding a plane every 20 years
a friend of mine is engineer for Honeywell and developing new shit for planes - i asked him why they do not simply additionally stream the flight recorder information via satellite - should not be too difficult when they can send already engine data and other maintenance information.
he said too much information to transmit and also it takes usually something like 10 years before new technology is approved and introduced
and: at least until now it almost never happened that a plane got totally lost and no black box could be found - that technology would cost more than not finding a plane every 20 years
God the word is indeed rather fucked if you have any say in the technology. What are you, a photographer? You don't even know a lick about your own country. I've read your posts. Now have you read mine?
God the word is indeed rather fucked if you have any say in the technology. What are you, a photographer? You don't even know a lick about your own country. I've read your posts. Now have you read mine?
shut up, Lawrence - don't you have a strap on you can play with?
a friend of mine is engineer for Honeywell and developing new shit for planes - i asked him why they do not simply additionally stream the flight recorder information via satellite - should not be too difficult when they can send already engine data and other maintenance information.
he said too much information to transmit and also it takes usually something like 10 years before new technology is approved and introduced
and: at least until now it almost never happened that a plane got totally lost and no black box could be found - that technology would cost more than not finding a plane every 20 years
I think you are right. I have a friend who works for Intel he tells me there is a five year lead time from concept to deployment.
In this case I can just imagine how it would go... Sounds simple, right? Stream information to a satellite. Easy. But if you start at the very beginning - what data to send - everyone is going to disagree. For example, air speed - should they transmit that data, and why? Should that data come from the sensor on the bottom of the aircraft or from computers in the cockpit. Which would be more accurate, and which would be subject to failure more than the other? Then we'll need something to power the system that will track the air speed, and a method to transmit it? Is it as simple as running a wire from the cockpit to a cabinet in the back of the plane? If so, what kind of wire would they use? Then who would have access to this cabinet.
I think you are right. I have a friend who works for Intel he tells me there is a five year lead time from concept to deployment.
In this case I can just imagine how it would go... Sounds simple, right? Stream information to a satellite. Easy. But if you start at the very beginning - what data to send - everyone is going to disagree. For example, air speed - should they transmit that data, and why? Should that data come from the sensor on the bottom of the aircraft or from computers in the cockpit. Which would be more accurate, and which would be subject to failure more than the other? Then we'll need something to power the system that will track the air speed, and a method to transmit it? Is it as simple as running a wire from the cockpit to a cabinet in the back of the plane? If so, what kind of wire would they use? Then who would have access to this cabinet.
Get my point?
modern black boxes work with flash cards - you could simply transmit exactly the same information you record with that
add some encryption and compression and delete information 1 hour after plane has successfully landed
but there are also privacy issues since every word the pilots speak during flight would be transmitted
modern black boxes work with flash cards - you could simply transmit exactly the same information you record with that
add some encryption and compression and delete information 1 hour after plane has successfully landed
but there are also privacy issues since every word the pilots speak during flight would be transmitted
You don't even need to transmit all those, just the basic info about the exact current location of the aircraft and that'll work. The transmitter must work on stand-alone mode all the time, even after the aircraft is completely crashed. I don't see why this is so complicated to implement in a fuckin' 150M$ machine.
You don't even need to transmit all those, just the basic info about the exact current location of the aircraft and that'll work. The transmitter must work on stand-alone mode all the time, even after the aircraft is completely crashed. I don't see why this is so complicated to implement in a fuckin' 150M$ machine.
theoretically - yeah - i also don't understand why they don't do that - because the information is already there:
theoretically - yeah - i also don't understand why they don't do that - because the information is already there
Liability. The airline industries dirty little secret?
Maybe the same reason why I don't want a discount on my car insurance for using their tracking device.
Oops a plane went down, we don't know why, good luck finding the black box, as opposed to black box info instantaneously sent to FAA database, second by second, for every plane. We know when, why & how, airline is liable.
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