Advice: How To Get Over a Girl?

Never put anyone ahead of your lively hood and revenue generating means. If you do that you are doomed. If you can't work and generate revenue, you're no use to any one.

Put yourself and your revenue generation first.

Why third place? Thats so easy to change. Be creative.

Silently gesture for her friend to come over and tell her to be discreet, but tell her this guy is wanted by the FBI and authorities are on their way and ask that they try to keep him talking, in one place and don't act suspicious. She'll immediately call her friend to the bathroom and tell her. Then they'll also have to start asking who you are, how you know and you just became the most fascinating person they've met so far that night. You can be more fascinating depending on what you say next and where you lead things.

Or let her know he's the guy from the ad campaign for herpes medication or something and to use protection if her intent is to hook up with him. Advise that it would be for her to tell her friend in the interest of safety and say you only know because he gets called out a lot and always denies it. It's an example of 1,000,000 things you could do or say in the moment to be both playful and get rid of him.

Who will they want to talk to after that? Particularly when they know you're just fucking around? Who is now the funnest more interesting guy around them?

I'm so random with this shit, that my friends all cringe when i open my mouth in public places.

That describes the least interesting interaction ever AND the same exact experience they have 10 times a day and what happens over and over again, every time they go out. They knew they didn't want to talk to you the second you started talking.

Remember this. You can say anything. Anything. Get creative. Be interesting. Always be indirect. You are never trying to hit on them. You are never trying to start a conversation with them and hang out and get to know them. Act like you are trying to sell a product and the challenge is in understanding that same product is being sold to them 7 days a week. They've heard the pitch a million times. They hate it. They hate the person making it before he even starts talking. They hate this routine... because its that. Routine. Their defenses are up the moment you talk and from that moment on, they are just being polite. Be interesting, be different, be indirect and make them want to know about the product and start asking questions.

Remember, you're not trying to meet them. You're not trying to hook up with them. Never let them think this. You're goal is to make them want to know you. You're goal is to make them want to talk to you. You can start conversations a 1,000,000 different ways. (Just being random and making a random example), ask if they can see the stain on your shirt or if it came out.. when they ask what it was, say you were standing next to a guy in the bathroom and he got stabbed and you got into a struggle and ended up taking the knife away from the guy and police finally came. Thats random and i just made it up while typing this.. the point is that now they are riveted. They have tons of questions. They want to know more. You are now interesting. The door is open and they want to know you. You are not trying to convince them to open the door so you can sell yourself to them. Of course you have to tell them later that you were just joking about the knife fight or whatever. It won't matter once you've built rapport and attraction.


James Bond doesn't buy women drinks to get their attention. Thats demonstrating weakness, lower social status and value. He says something fascinating and witty, ignores their beauty or calls out a small flaw (you have lipstick on your teeth, i hope it hasn't been there all night) and moves on and they then want to talk to him. Particularly when they see him with another hotty.
i.e. "if they thought i had low confidence and self esteem, i immediately confirm it with this horrifying display".

going with the flow/stopped caring - we probably name it different, and have slightly different perceptions of it, but I can understand that totally and agree. it's pretty much subconscious to a certain degree once you hit the first 'not caring' instance of whatever it is... it spills into everything (most things) and becomes like porn nerds stick shift analogy (which I also use a hell of a lot btw PN) but on many things rather than a specific thing

lmfao I missed this part "3. I asked about pets, I'm a huge cat fan and that gives me an opportunity to show them pictures of my cat on my phone. (hope this isn't showing weakness?)
4. I show them a picture of when I had a beard and I ask their opinion if it looked good"

100% troll, but like I say, interesting discussion anyway

Dam, that's some major creativity there - I'm impressed and I actually want to hear more about the knife fight

This is definitely something that needs to be practised, but I'm up for the challenge - I just hope I can get half as creative and maybe the outcome will be a little different.

Yeah, the sweating thing is a problem - I need to work on it (hopefully its possible)

I agree. I try to stay fit and lean and to not dress like a slob. It helps with the confidence and swagger if you are dressed well, or really if you are dressed in clothes you really like and make you feel like "you". Clothes do say a lot about someone. Jeans and t-shirts are fine if you throw in a rolex. LOL

No, seriously. If she says she likes cats and I feel the conversation needs a prop then I show pictures of my cat. I find that its something different as I don't think most guys like cats, but I do (and most females usually do), which usually helps to build up a connection.

Then I discuss how I like cats because they are very independent, they do their own thing. If a cat wants affection then it will come to you, if not then it will do its own thing, and I compare this to dogs who are always wanting affection. People say dogs have owners, but cats have slaves etc

I'm seriously trying to improve here, I guarantee you no troll attempt (this is actually the second time a serious thread of mine has been called a troll attempt) - I guess I just need to discuss pretty fucked up topics

Again, you are doing the same thing. Approval seeking behavior. Attraction has nothing to do with common interests. Thats a relationship and marriage. No woman will think "I want to get with him because he likes cats"

I always go the opposite direction.

"I don't mind cats too much. To be honest, i'm a little terrified of them. When i was 5 , my father was attacked by several cats as we walked through an alley and almost died. I still vividly remember holding his hand before the ambulance came with him saying goodbye to me and telling me that he loves me. It was really hard on me. There was a lot of blood".

"really, are you serious"

"of course not! what the hell is wrong with you?! why would you even believe that? Are you always so gullible?"

If he's a troll, I wish there were trolls like him! Especially with all the new trolls polluting the board like FriendsforNow or some of the other tools.

You're spot on! My approach I'm trying to agree with them, trying to show them I agree, basically the common people pleaser approach.

With your approach, you're making a joke, you're testing their humour and you're not agreeing with them.

Dam, this is tough. My approach has been straight forward, which seems boring and uninteresting.

Your approach is extremely creative, and grabs their attention.

You're pretty fucking funny, dude.

Its how i am as a person though. I just say random shit and for whatever reason, it won't come off as offensive. Whatever you do, it has to be you saying it.. not a character you create. It has to work with your personality and your voice.

But yeah, you get it. Not agreeing. Not complimenting. Not buying drinks. Not kissing ass. Not bragging. Not showing off. Just making fun conversation without showing direct interest in them and at times, making fun of them a little in a lighthearted way. The whole time, they never really know if you're interested or not, if you like them or not, if you're trying to get with them or not... they just know you're fun and they want to spend more time with you. Then they start qualifying and selling themselves to you. That is the start of the perfect pickup.

Of course there are more steps to take things further, but its super hard for people to just master initiating the conversations, keeping it going, keeping the right tone, not showing too much interest and making it fun.

I agree with @jimmycooper - you're a legend! I can only imagine having you as a wing man, I'd forget this girl after half an hour

She basically did this to me. We would chat, she would spend time with me, but I wasn't sure if it was going anywhere, she wasn't showing direct interest.

Her personality is also extremely friend, which I think I might have been reading as possible interest/flirting.

I guess I need to try this whole new approach, play it cool, be mysterious and see how it goes.

That example came to mind because actually, i was at a supermarket a few years ago and it was Thanksgiving Day... i bought some stupid stuff with my wife at the time. The cashier girl asks kind of stunned "what, no Turkey today" and I looked up with a really sullen look on my face and said "this is not a good day for me, its really hard for all of us" and she asked "why is that"... i just randomly said with sorrow in my voice "my father was killed by turkeys".

The bag boy froze with this horrified look on his face (young kid) and says "really??"

Then everyone is staring at me and i'm trying my best to tear up and just waiting for someone to ask "what happened".

You could see everyone wanted to but was afraid to.
It was so funny because no one wanted to be the first to ask such as stupid question.

I gave them some time and then pretended to be holding back tears and said "i'm sorry, i gotto go" and hurried out the store.

Awesome. At the end of day, whether it be in picking up girls or in other random interactions, it's always fun to amuse yourself. At least that's always been the case with me.