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EscortBiz · 03-13-2003, 06:34 AM

The fact that there are fake papers does not shock me, but to see the FBI getting involved in this is kinda shocking

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http://www.msnbc.com/news/884624.asp?0si=-

FBI probes fake papers on Iraq
By Dana Priest and Susan Schmidt, The Washington Post

The FBI is looking into the forgery of a key piece of evidence linking Iraq to a nuclear weapons program, including the possibility that a foreign government is using a deception campaign to foster support for military action against Iraq.

"IT'S SOMETHING we're just beginning to look at," a senior law enforcement official said yesterday. Officials are trying to determine whether the documents were forged to try to influence U.S. policy, or whether they may have been created as part of a disinformation campaign directed by a foreign intelligence service.
"We're looking at it from a preliminary stage as to what it's all about," he said.

The FBI has not yet opened a formal investigation because it is unclear whether the bureau has jurisdiction over the matter.

The phony documents -- a series of letters between Iraqi and Niger officials showing Iraq's interest in equipment that could be used to make nuclear weapons -- came to British and U.S. intelligence officials from a third country. The identity of the third country could not be learned yesterday.

The forgery came to light last week during a highly publicized and contentious United Nations meeting. Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), told the Security Council on March 7 that U.N. and independent experts had decided that the documents were "not authentic."

ElBaradei's disclosure, and his rejection of three other key claims that U.S. intelligence officials have cited to support allegations about Iraq's nuclear ambitions, struck a powerful blow to the Bush administration's argument on the matter.

To the contrary, ElBaradei told the council, "we have to date found no evidence or plausible indications of the revival of a nuclear program in Iraq."

The CIA, which had also obtained the documents, had questions about "whether they were accurate," said one intelligence official, and it decided not to include them in its file on Iraq's program to procure weapons of mass destruction.

FBI DELVES IN
The FBI has jurisdiction over counterintelligence operations by foreign governments against the United States. Because the documents were delivered to the United States, the bureau would most likely try to determine whether the foreign government knew the documents were forged or whether it, too, was deceived.

Iraq pursued an aggressive nuclear weapons program during the 1970s and 1980s. It launched a crash program to build a nuclear bomb in 1990 after it invaded Kuwait. Allied bombing during the Persian Gulf War in 1991 damaged Iraq's nuclear infrastructure. The country's known stocks of nuclear fuel and equipment were removed or destroyed during the U.N. inspections after the war.

But Iraq never surrendered the blueprints for its nuclear program, and it kept teams of scientists employed after U.N. inspectors were forced to leave in 1998.

Machete_ · 03-13-2003, 06:43 AM

Nice - if we cant find a reason 4 war, lets just make one up

Gman.357 · 03-13-2003, 06:46 AM

Hmmmm.

Joe Sixpack · 03-13-2003, 06:48 AM

Shut your eyes people.

It's just more left-wing, treehugger, anti-war propaganda!

WAR, BABY! Bring it ON!

Woohoo!

ServerGenius · 03-13-2003, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by ebus_dk
Nice - if we cant find a reason 4 war, lets just make one up

I think you mean.....let´s make a bunch up

DynaMite

Brujah · 03-13-2003, 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by ebus_dk
Nice - if we cant find a reason 4 war, lets just make one up

We didn't make it up. It said it was given to us. It also said it wasn't included in any evidence.

--- probable contents of document --
Dear MRS. SESE-SEKO,

Confidential Business Proposal

I am sorry to hear of your late husband, President MOBUTU SESE-SEKO OF ZAIRE.

I understand you are in exile by your country from the letter that arrived in my email this morning. I know how it must feel. My country and neighbors hate me too and are trying to take everything. I would like to give you the $25,000 you asked for in exchange for a share in the $$ millions but I would like to be paid in nuclear materials instead. Where can I send this money ? I am so excited.

Warmest Regards,
Saddam

roly · 03-13-2003, 07:26 AM

well if this is true and we were taking bets on who the mystery government in this report is, i could only think of iran or israel and i'd bet my house on it being israel.

seven · 03-13-2003, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by roly
i'd bet my house on it being israel.

hope you don't become homeless. But ofcourse U.S. will blame it on a "3rd Party"! Could U.S. itself fabricate evidence? Hell no! They are all just respectable priests and reverands ya know

roly · 03-13-2003, 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by seven

hope you don't become homeless. But ofcourse U.S. will blame it on a "3rd Party"! Could U.S. itself fabricate evidence? Hell no! They are all just respectable priests and reverands ya know

yeah you could well be right, there isn't a government on the planet that doesn't lie and decieve when they need to, but why investigate themselves? you haven't got a room i could rent have you?

seven · 03-13-2003, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by roly
you haven't got a room i could rent have you?

Well you could now room with Kman for free I heard the other day

candyflip · 03-13-2003, 10:22 AM

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cluck · 03-13-2003, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by seven

hope you don't become homeless. But ofcourse U.S. will blame it on a "3rd Party"! Could U.S. itself fabricate evidence? Hell no! They are all just respectable priests and reverands ya know

You mean they touch children?

EscortBiz · 03-13-2003, 10:40 AM

You think its Israel?

Miss Novette · 03-13-2003, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
You think its Israel?

I would be surprised if it were Isreal. They are not the most violent folks I know and they have the most to lose in a war as they are so close to lots of people who hate them.

[Labret] · 03-13-2003, 10:51 AM

shut the fuck up

seven · 03-13-2003, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cluck
You mean they touch children?

LOL I guess the American dictionaries will soon start to include that to the meaning of being priests

bikinihouse · 03-13-2003, 11:36 AM

What I been saying for so long people! America fabricates things in order to justify war on Iraq...

I wouldn't be surprised if this 3rd party nation is Israel.. but they will never tell us anyways.

seven · 03-13-2003, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bikinihouse
I wouldn't be surprised if this 3rd party nation is Israel.. but they will never tell us anyways.

Well, can't deny that. After all, death of Iraq would make it easier for them to kill all Palestinians who want their land back.. if I were them I'd keep all the bulldozers ready already

roly · 03-13-2003, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Miss Novette

I would be surprised if it were Isreal. They are not the most violent folks I know and they have the most to lose in a war as they are so close to lots of people who hate them.

they can be pretty violent when the want to be, don't you watch the news? although i can't see what that has to do with making stuff up, and i would say they are one of the countries with the most to gain from a war with iraq with sadam replaced by a western friendly government. as you say they are close to lots of people that hate them, so what better for them than a war that gets rid of one of their most vocal oppenents and biggest threats.

PaulSweet · 03-13-2003, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Miss Novette

I would be surprised if it were Isreal. They are not the most violent folks I know and they have the most to lose in a war as they are so close to lots of people who hate them.

I'm not attacking Isreal - but you're joking now right?

The Israeli secret service (Mosad) has already been reprimanded several times by Canada, the USA, and the UK for its activities amongst others. They have a fondness for using fake Canadian passports to get into countries to assassinate "enemies of state".

You'll be able to google up one famous story of the Israeli's killing off someone they didn't like if you look up "Gerald Bull and Long range cannon". The Mosad killed him for selling his long range cannon technology to the Iraqis. He did it when Iraq was still friends with the USA. And his technology was funded by Nasa (and the CIA) as both a weapon and a way to launch payloads into space more cheaply then rockets.

Here is one example.
Transcript from the CBC (Canadian broadcasting channel)

If you go on google you can find more information on the Mosad doing things they probably shouldn't have as well from respected news agencies.

ChrisH · 03-13-2003, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DynaSpain

I think you mean.....let´s make a bunch up

DynaMite

Yes it's all one big lie, Massive Cock told me.

seven · 03-14-2003, 11:53 AM

That's a very good post Paul. Some of the asses that argued with me before.. do you now see why Israel could be a very good reason behind why U.S. maybe so much more interested in going to war with Iraq?

directfiesta · 03-14-2003, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisH

Yes it's all one big lie, Massive Cock told me.

Yeah, just lies...

Governments don't lie, they just fabricate them....

Watergate

Iran-Contra affair

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/index.html

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