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  • slapass
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    • Nov 2002
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    #1

    Cuba - Next big land grab

    If Russia and Eastern Europe are any indication, prices will sky rocket over the next few years. Anyone know how to buy there? Or have you?
  • wehateporn
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    #2
    I suppose Russia will have to take back their nukes

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      • hadden
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        #4
        Originally posted by wehateporn
        I suppose Russia will have to take back their nukes
        the nukes are sub marine.

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        • Sid70
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          #5
          Русня, идите нахуй!

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          • slapass
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            • Nov 2002
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            #6
            They left the Nukes in some other countries. Not sure it is a big deal.

            Edit: no they didn't.

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            • aka123
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              #7
              I don't know about these land crabs, unless you talk about Putin, who according to Cyberseo, is a crab.

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              • MiamiBoyz
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                #8
                You are kidding right?

                I would not want there even if they were giving that shit away...it's too close to that shithole Florida! No thanks!

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                • artwilliams
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                  #9
                  slapass, Cuba is still a communist country. The reason Castro took power was due to American oppression. Don't look for any land grab there soon. This is just two former foes normalizing relations.
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                  • slapass
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by artwilliams
                    slapass, Cuba is still a communist country. The reason Castro took power was due to American oppression. Don't look for any land grab there soon. This is just two former foes normalizing relations.
                    So is China.

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                    • artwilliams
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by slapass
                      So is China.
                      Understand the history. Before Castro took over most of Cuba was owned by Americans. Cubans were serfs in their own country. Don't look for a fire sale of Cuban property any time soon.
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                      • pornguy
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                        #12
                        I agree with you that there will be a land grab but I think its a number of years away.

                        Raul has been slowly working towards a capitalist government by letting people open their own businesses. But its slow going and they are having to shut a lot of them down for no license etc.

                        Until Cuba has some sort of internal income like that, things wont or should not change fast.

                        As for buying land. Right now, you can not. If you have a friend or family, then it can be done with your money but not with your name.

                        My mother in law lives there part of the year. For now the market is stable but its going to increase some. Not the way most people think.

                        I was looking at a property for her there not long ago. 2 Hectares with a river, well for water, small house fronting a road, for 15K us.
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                        • aka123
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by artwilliams
                          slapass, Cuba is still a communist country. The reason Castro took power was due to American oppression. Don't look for any land grab there soon. This is just two former foes normalizing relations.
                          I thought that Castro took power because he was communist, he wanted Cuba to be a communist country (elsewhere too) and he wanted to be the dictator of Cuba.

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                          • MaDalton
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                            #14
                            i wonder if i should buy something over there
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                            • Barry-xlovecam
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                              The Communist government in Cuba nationalized American assets after the revolution and that is why, or one reason, there is an embargo now.

                              There won't be much US or foreign private investment in Cuba for that reason.

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                              • slapass
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by artwilliams
                                Understand the history. Before Castro took over most of Cuba was owned by Americans. Cubans were serfs in their own country. Don't look for a fire sale of Cuban property any time soon.
                                I know the history. There is a way to check if the title was in the family before the fall. So you need to buy from someone who did not leave. But the chances of it reverting are really zero at this time.

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                                • slapass
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pornguy
                                  I agree with you that there will be a land grab but I think its a number of years away.

                                  Raul has been slowly working towards a capitalist government by letting people open their own businesses. But its slow going and they are having to shut a lot of them down for no license etc.

                                  Until Cuba has some sort of internal income like that, things wont or should not change fast.

                                  As for buying land. Right now, you can not. If you have a friend or family, then it can be done with your money but not with your name.

                                  My mother in law lives there part of the year. For now the market is stable but its going to increase some. Not the way most people think.

                                  I was looking at a property for her there not long ago. 2 Hectares with a river, well for water, small house fronting a road, for 15K us.
                                  You should do it. 15k for that is amazing.

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                                  • slapass
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                    The Communist government in Cuba nationalized American assets after the revolution and that is why, or one reason, there is an embargo now.

                                    There won't be much US or foreign private investment in Cuba for that reason.
                                    Russia did the same. Read up on the famous oil fields. They were owned by lots of people before Russia went communist and took them over. Germany same thing. Etc.

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                                    • pornguy
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by slapass
                                      You should do it. 15k for that is amazing.
                                      Yeah. Its just outside of Havana as well and not far from some of the nicest beaches. Mom does not want to live there though.

                                      Big trick is. If you get someone to buy for you, and they Die, the Government or a family member takes the house. Mom is 66 so...
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                                      • MaDalton
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pornguy
                                        Yeah. Its just outside of Havana as well and not far from some of the nicest beaches. Mom does not want to live there though.

                                        Big trick is. If you get someone to buy for you, and they Die, the Government or a family member takes the house. Mom is 66 so...
                                        i'm sure this changes some day - kind of a gamble
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                                        • Rochard
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                                          You are kidding right?

                                          I would not want there even if they were giving that shit away...it's too close to that shithole Florida! No thanks!
                                          No kidding at all. A lot of companies are already lined up thinking ahead:

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                                          One article I read yesterday said that Franchises such as McDonald's wouldn't do good there, but other traditional items like Pepsi and Frito Lay products would do great.

                                          Keep in mind that Cuba has been starved for the past fifty years - they are still driving fifty year old American made cars.
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                                          • Barry-xlovecam
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                                            #22
                                            Foreign ownership of land depends on a country's laws, fair courts and governmental stability.

                                            You don't see foreigners grabbing up cheap luxury apartments in Moscow for these reasons.

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                              The Communist government in Cuba nationalized American assets after the revolution and that is why, or one reason, there is an embargo now.

                                              There won't be much US or foreign private investment in Cuba for that reason.
                                              People have very short memories, when it comes to profit

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                                              • MaDalton
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Rochard

                                                One article I read yesterday said that Franchises such as McDonald's wouldn't do good there, but other traditional items like Pepsi and Frito Lay products would do great.
                                                i haven't seen Pepsi but Coca Cola is already everywhere in Cuba - imported from Mexico
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                                                • Sid70
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by slapass
                                                  If Russia and Eastern Europe are any indication, prices will sky rocket over the next few years. Anyone know how to buy there? Or have you?
                                                  I have stuff for sale in up rising Ukraine. Lets go buy properties!
                                                  Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                  • Sid70
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                    i wonder if i should buy something over there
                                                    I strongly advice you do!
                                                    On a serious note I would invest into a shed near any ski resort in Slovakia.
                                                    Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                    • Relentless
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                                                      #27
                                                      Ask Meyer Lansky how buying property in Cuba worked out.


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                                                      • GAMEFINEST
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                                                        #28
                                                        money to be made there.
                                                        Compound interest.

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                                                        • Sid70
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Relentless
                                                          Ask Meyer Lansky how buying property in Cuba worked out.
                                                          Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                          • PornoPlopedia
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                                                            #30
                                                            it will be the next land of opportunity for sure, but the question is when?

                                                            On another note, being Canadian, I use to enjoy those cheap travels to Havana and pamper myself. Now with the US tourists lining in, the prices will definitely sky rocket.
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                                                            • PR_Glen
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by PornoPlopedia
                                                              it will be the next land of opportunity for sure, but the question is when?

                                                              On another note, being Canadian, I use to enjoy those cheap travels to Havana and pamper myself. Now with the US tourists lining in, the prices will definitely sky rocket.
                                                              would you rather cubans make less money for their resorts and services to keep your travelling costs down instead?
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                                                              • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                #32
                                                                Meyer Lansky and the Havana Casinos were a drama sideshow ...

                                                                Cuba, you owe us $7 billion -- List of the 50 largest certified claims

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                  would you rather cubans make less money for their resorts and services to keep your travelling costs down instead?

                                                                  I was just stating the facts.
                                                                  For sure I want to see the poor Cubans making more dineros and they will be happy to welcome uncle Sam
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                                                                  • slapass
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Sid70
                                                                    I have stuff for sale in up rising Ukraine. Lets go buy properties!
                                                                    You must have seen the price rise in Moscow or Kiev after the change over. Apts in Moscow went up ten times in value.

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                      Meyer Lansky and the Havana Casinos were a drama sideshow ...

                                                                      Cuba, you owe us $7 billion -- List of the 50 largest certified claims
                                                                      They fucked plenty of people, but don't underestimate casino cash. It was a fortune as well.


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                                                                      • femdomdestiny
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                        No kidding at all. A lot of companies are already lined up thinking ahead:

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                                                                        One article I read yesterday said that Franchises such as McDonald's wouldn't do good there, but other traditional items like Pepsi and Frito Lay products would do great.

                                                                        Keep in mind that Cuba has been starved for the past fifty years - they are still driving fifty year old American made cars.
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                                                                        • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Relentless
                                                                          They fucked plenty of people, but don't underestimate casino cash. It was a fortune as well.
                                                                          Who is to say the Mob never got paid?

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                                                                          • SilentKnight
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                            would you rather cubans make less money for their resorts and services to keep your travelling costs down instead?
                                                                            Since you mentioned it...sure, why not.

                                                                            The average tourist-related, service-job employee in Niagara Falls, Canada makes a minimum wage that is approx. $4/hr. less than the defined "living wage" poverty line for the region.



                                                                            In all seriousness - no. I think Cubans (like Canadians) should make a fair, decent wage in return for a good, honest day's work. We're all being fucked equally by the greed of huge corporations and government - whether it's in Canada, the U.S or Cuba.

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                                                                            • mikesouth
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                              Foreign ownership of land depends on a country's laws, fair courts and governmental stability.

                                                                              You don't see foreigners grabbing up cheap luxury apartments in Moscow for these reasons.
                                                                              ding ding ding

                                                                              exactly right unless you are Cuban you wont be owning any land in Cuba in this lifetime.

                                                                              I get why Americans dont understand this (at the time of the revolution US companies owned around 75% of all property in Cuba) when castro won and the US refused to normalize relations with Cuba Castro nationalized all US corporate owned property. A fact you wont get taught in American history classes usually.

                                                                              There will be great economic opportunities for Americans as well as Cubans as a result of normalizing relations but buying up land there aint gonna happen.
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                                                                              • SilentKnight
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                I was chattin' with a co-worker the other day about the cost of Cuban vacations potentially going up for Canadians in the near future (he goes to Cuba frequently throughout the year), and he asked me why Obama chose to normalize relations with Cuba after all these years.

                                                                                With a dozen or more blurry conspiracy theories floating around these days - I told'em perhaps the U.S. was simply tired of blaming Cuba for JFK's assasination for a half century.

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                                                                                • slapass
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by mikesouth
                                                                                  ding ding ding

                                                                                  exactly right unless you are Cuban you wont be owning any land in Cuba in this lifetime.

                                                                                  I get why Americans dont understand this (at the time of the revolution US companies owned around 75% of all property in Cuba) when castro won and the US refused to normalize relations with Cuba Castro nationalized all US corporate owned property. A fact you wont get taught in American history classes usually.

                                                                                  There will be great economic opportunities for Americans as well as Cubans as a result of normalizing relations but buying up land there aint gonna happen.
                                                                                  Same with Thailand and it is not an issue for some.

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                                                                                  • directfiesta
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                                    I was chattin' with a co-worker the other day about the cost of Cuban vacations potentially going up for Canadians in the near future (he goes to Cuba frequently throughout the year), and he asked me why Obama chose to normalize relations with Cuba after all these years.

                                                                                    With a dozen or more blurry conspiracy theories floating around these days - I told'em perhaps the U.S. was simply tired of blaming Cuba for JFK's assasination for a half century.
                                                                                    ... maybe to piss off Putin ???

                                                                                    As for buying land, forget it : I tried and the only way is either in the name of a cuban friend, get married ... but once that friend/spouse dies, divorce or whatever you are back to square one .

                                                                                    As I go about 7 times a year , and would not mind selling the florida condo , I am looking into "" renting "" on a long term basis, like 15-20 years , in Varadero .

                                                                                    Will know soon from the lawyer ...
                                                                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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