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Old 02-19-2015, 07:59 PM   #1251
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Baddog have you looked into whether you and Donny will be allowed conjugal visits?
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Anyway, carry on. No one thinks anyone is guilty or innocent. Everyone is entitled to an opinion about Donny... or the charges and the facts as they've been presented thus far as well as Donny's rambling psychopathic reply which will also be evidence against him. Even a jury's decision is nothing but 12 opinions.
The District Attorney thinks he's guilty, they aren't presuming he's innocent. The judge and jury are the only people on this planet who are required to not have an opinion regarding his guilt or innocence.

The odds against Donny being the unfortunate victim in this sordid sick mess are astronomical. Can you even imagine yourself or anybody you know having a close friend who would just out of nowhere ask 'How about you fuck my 16 year old daughter while I watch and masturbate?'. Astro-fucking-nomical. And if somebody did ask you that question it would be your moral duty to protect that child by reporting the incident.

How many times has Donny sanctimoniously made a plea to the porn industry to understand that these poor girls who end up in the industry are 'someone's daughter'? Someone's daughter? Not just 'someone' in this case, it was the daughter of a close friend, being whored out for the father's perverted pleasure and Donny did absolutely nothing to get this girl help, not a single fuck given by a man who claims he walks with God.
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The District Attorney thinks he's guilty, they aren't presuming he's innocent. The judge and jury are the only people on this planet who are required to not have an opinion regarding his guilt or innocence.

The odds against Donny being the unfortunate victim in this sordid sick mess are astronomical. Can you even imagine yourself or anybody you know having a close friend who would just out of nowhere ask 'How about you fuck my 16 year old daughter while I watch and masturbate?'. Astro-fucking-nomical. And if somebody did ask you that question it would be your moral duty to protect that child by reporting the incident.

How many times has Donny sanctimoniously made a plea to the porn industry to understand that these poor girls who end up in the industry are 'someone's daughter'? Someone's daughter? Not just 'someone' in this case, it was the daughter of a close friend, being whored out for the father's perverted pleasure and Donny did absolutely nothing to get this girl help, not a single fuck given by a man who claims he walks with God.
I've been saying this again and again and it feels like it just falls on deaf ears. He is mentally ill. Not because he is "religious". Religion, he realized was just a great vehicle to manipulate and exploit others. Who better to take advantage of than people who want to believe what you are saying, but that also are much more likely to forgive another s transgressions? Who better to manipulate than a group of people that are being told day in and day out that we are all bad, that we do bad, but that we need to find the good in people, see the good in people and that no matter what, we should learn to forgive etc etc etc. You get free pass for all the little slips you make...for all the seemingly obvious contradictions and for all the little inconsistencies as you have an audience that wants to believe everything you are saying as its consistent with their values. This is all a psychopaths wet dream.

An interesting thing to me... forgetting about his many mental issues driving his behaviors... when it comes to sexual predators, its usually no different than any other type of predator. No different than any psychopathic criminal, like a mafia figure or serious gang banger or drug dealer or con artist or whatever. They sniff out vulnerable people like a lion does a limping gazelle. They can identify weakness as if its a sixth sense and do so with amazing accuracy. Their judgement is not clouded by normal emotional processing that causes us to look at someone who is completely insane and likely dangerous and say "oh, he's just a little eccentric" or "yeah, but he still loves me".

I was thinking about that when he gave his interview. To me, the story he gave in the first interview was kinda normal if the facts are somewhat true - a sick guy and sexual predator sniffed out a similar person and invited him to molest his own child. A sad part to this "story" if its anywhere near the truth, was that at the center, there was a young girl who was expected to perform the sex acts. If that was truly the case, then there is little to zero chance that she hadn't already been serially abused sexually, prior to this event. So, I think its a safe bet that a LOT of other damning stuff against the adults in the room, will come out of the investigations and interviews and it will just keep coming out. I just thought it a bit interesting because his story, to me incriminated him to a degree, in my mind and I think the prosecutor is going to have a very easy time with this. No matter how you look at it, he went on television and put himself at the scene of several crimes and made it clear that he there because he was expected to have sex with a child. Doing this sort of thing and speaking at all actually or without an attorney is something only a truly mentally impaired person would do. His need as a serial manipulator to keep manipulating with an attempt to correct others image of him so that he does not lose his perceived sense of control, far outweighs any other. Namely, that he should keep quiet, only speak through an attorney etc.

Also, i do appreciate that people like MaDalton or Far-l or CDsmith and others are cautious. I'm not. A court will determine guilt, but I just see what i've always seen, a very dangerous person (a manipulative predator - not necessarily violent) who has exhibited every trait of a very dangerous person with absolutely no conscience whatsoever and he's been this right in front of everyone, from his first appearance online.
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The District Attorney thinks he's guilty, they aren't presuming he's innocent. The judge and jury are the only people on this planet who are required to not have an opinion regarding his guilt or innocence.

The odds against Donny being the unfortunate victim in this sordid sick mess are astronomical. Can you even imagine yourself or anybody you know having a close friend who would just out of nowhere ask 'How about you fuck my 16 year old daughter while I watch and masturbate?'. Astro-fucking-nomical. And if somebody did ask you that question it would be your moral duty to protect that child by reporting the incident.

How many times has Donny sanctimoniously made a plea to the porn industry to understand that these poor girls who end up in the industry are 'someone's daughter'? Someone's daughter? Not just 'someone' in this case, it was the daughter of a close friend, being whored out for the father's perverted pleasure and Donny did absolutely nothing to get this girl help, not a single fuck given by a man who claims he walks with God.
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How old was that little girl?


Donney and That father.
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exactly....
Pretty sure Donny reported it to the highest moral authority, hoping God would sort the situation out, smiting the guilty heathens and all that.
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Pretty sure Donny reported it to the highest moral authority, hoping God would sort the situation out, smiting the guilty heathens and all that.
He doesn't need to report it,... he gets to do what he wants and then say "sorry, do you forgive me?", then imagine there was an answer, tell himself that God is either testing him or working through him and then carry on with a clean slate, feeling refreshed, renewed and re-invigorated - i'd say "carry on with a clean conscience" but i sincerely doubt he has one.
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Came across this article yesterday. Found it baffling how much propaganda was included. I'm going to break the link to avoid giving this fucked up website a proper backlink... but you can put it together.

http://pornharms dot com/porn-stars-behind-the-screens/

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By age 14 most boys have already seen and used porn?but today?s pornography isn?t just nude or explicit photos. Soft porn barely exists on the Internet today; most kids are finding violent and deviant pornography, including bondage and bestiality.
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Pauling was looking for ways to coerce her into making a film.
There was no coercion. He recruited the same way we all do, willing participants replying to ads.

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Over time, Pauling would direct the young woman to do more and more aggressive, violent, or deviant acts.
What a load of shit this is. There were never any aggressive, violent, or deviant acts. The content he filmed was always vanilla amateur content, similar to most of the industry, and nothing more.

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After time passes, young women leave or are kicked out of the porn industry with nothing to show?except a sexually transmitted disease, emotional and sometimes physical scarring.
There weren't any diseases spread because Donny filmed very few hardcore scenes, and there was never any physical violence as this propaganda piece would imply.

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I don't know what kind of fucked up shit this freak is into, but it isn't anything I've ever been exposed to.

How the social-conservatives could think this is anywhere close to reality is completely beyond me. Personally, I've never seen anything other than above-the-board recruiting and production... I don't have the slightest clue where this author gets her information. Certainly isn't from the industry I've been a part of for many years.
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Chico News & Review - Porn preacher popped - News - Local Stories - March 12, 2015

"Chopra said she will be filing a third case against Pauling in the coming weeks and that the investigation is ongoing"
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"Chopra said she will be filing a third case against Pauling in the coming weeks and that the investigation is ongoing"
Right! Read that whole rehash article and only new info, last two sentences:

"Chopra said she will be filing a third case against Pauling in the coming weeks and that the investigation is ongoing. She could not confirm rumors about potential victims in Butte County at this time."
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"Chopra said she will be filing a third case against Pauling in the coming weeks and that the investigation is ongoing"
I sent the updated parts of the thread to him, whether I hear back remains to be seen. He probably read them by now.
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Holy shit. 13 felonies. This just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

It will continue to get bigger too. I would imagine there is a long electronic trail - Every text he sent, every email, every post he ever made, every photo he's ever taken.... This is just the very beginning.

Two cases, 13 felonies, and a third case pending. Holy fucking shit.
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I sent the updated parts of the thread to him, whether I hear back remains to be seen. He probably read them by now.
Good work. Did you use manila folders?
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I just used USPS large envelopes, I'm sure they'll compromise.
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I'm not saying that Donny fucked kids, but... you really shouldnt fuck kids.
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Public Safety: Shooting suspect remains at large - News - Appeal-Democrat

Donny Pauling Jr. appeared in court on Friday to be arraigned on two cases of unlawful sex with a minor.

The hearing was continued because Pauling had not been able to gather the funds to retain private defense attorney Roberto Marquez, who has been appearing as Pauling's representative, as he did Friday.

Pauling is scheduled to return to court April 10.
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Donny Pauling Jr. appeared in court on Friday to be arraigned on two cases of unlawful sex with a minor.

The hearing was continued because Pauling had not been able to gather the funds to retain private defense attorney Roberto Marquez, who has been appearing as Pauling's representative, as he did Friday.

Pauling is scheduled to return to court April 10.
This should come as new surprise - Donny has no income at this point. He will be completely unable to defend himself.
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This should come as new surprise - Donny has no income at this point. He will be completely unable to defend himself.
Would he not be appointed legal aid?
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Would he not be appointed legal aid?
I don't know how it works there, but here, Public Defenders often have a huge case load and put little to know effort into defending their clients.
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Would he not be appointed legal aid?
If he can't afford an attorney he will be appointed a public defender. Like Candyflip said, most of them have a huge caseload and they don't have the time or resources for a long, drawn out trial.

A public defender will likely look at the evidence and then encourage Donny to let them try to cut him a deal.

Of course, Donny could always opt to represent himself which would not go well.
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This should come as new surprise - Donny has no income at this point. He will be completely unable to defend himself.
But I thought Donny was making sooooooooo much money doing doing online marketing for car dealerships? Why can't he sell some of the books from that 30k volume library he has in his shitty apartment with beige builders grade carpet full of stains?

That guy was always such a joke...
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Of course, Donny could always opt to represent himself which would not go well.
I believe he is almost delusional enough to try something like that. This is a guy that is handling his own PR and giving pre-trial television interviews.
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I believe he is almost delusional enough to try something like that. This is a guy that is handling his own PR and giving pre-trial television interviews.
I always wondered about that. He said he had this great lawyer, but why didn't the lawyer tell him to shut the hell up.Or maybe he did and Donny didn't listen.
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I always wondered about that. He said he had this great lawyer, but why didn't the lawyer tell him to shut the hell up.Or maybe he did and Donny didn't listen.
Read the DSM5 diagnostic criteria / symptoms and it will shed a little light on his behavior

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

You can't help someone who has an overinflated sense of self and at the same time, thinks you're an idiot. It's likely that he will try to defend himself... at a minimum, it's highly likely that he believes himself fully capable of doing so.

Also I'm not qualified to diagnose him but id say with confidence that his behavior strongly points towards anti-social/narcissistic/sociopathic personify disorders.
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I guess he wont make it to the Phoenix Forum this year.
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Were you hoping to see him play nude volleyball?
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Would he not be appointed legal aid?
He will of course have a court appointed attorney, but that is only a small step above Donny representing himself in court. The attorney he had wasn't too great to begin with; He was a local attorney who normally handled traffic tickets, DUIs, and dog bites.
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From the Appeal Democrat newspaper this weekend...

Former Sutter County Jail Commander Lewis McElfresh has yet to enter a plea to criminal charges of child molestation three months after his arrest.

McElfresh appeared on Friday as a shackled defendant in Sutter County Superior Court Friday for the fifth time. Defense attorney Jesse Santana again was granted a continuation of the arraignment. The District Attorney's Office had objected, citing concerns the move was a delay tactic.

An arraignment is a hearing wherein a defendant is informed of criminal charges by a judge, is given a copy of the charging document and enters a plea.

"Case law says if you enter a plea, you're saying you're OK with that prosecutor," Santana said. "I don't want them to even think that."

Santana argued in a motion for the disqualification of the entire Sutter County District Attorney's Office from prosecution, alleging the DA's Office is not exercising its discretionary function in an even-handed manner. He said prosecutors have refused to file criminal charges against their lead witness, Chase Hammonds, who was allegedly caught burglarizing McElfresh's home Dec. 18.

District Attorney Amanda Hopper said Friday she has not received a report about that inc dent and the investigation is ongoing. She is aware of the burglary allegation, she said.
"I have already indicated my office will not be making a filing decision on that burglary, nor will we prosecute, because there could be a possible conflict of interest," Hopper said. "(Prosecution) will be handled by another agency."

McElfresh is accused of masturbating while, allegedly, watching a minor being sexually violated by Donny Pauling, who is also charged in the incident. Hammonds confronted McElfresh about the incident, recorded the conversation and provided the recording to a Sutter County sheriff's lieutenant, according to an officer's declaration.

A hearing for the motion to disqualify the DA, as well as the arraignment date, were rescheduled for April 22 by visiting Judge Dennis J. Buckley. If the DA's office is disqualified, the state Attorney General's Office would take McElfresh's case.

All Sutter County Superior Court judges have either recused themselves or have been disqualified by request of Santana or District Attorney Amanda Hopper.

Buckley did hear some arguments Friday.

The District Attorney's Office issued a subpoena to obtain the medical records of the juvenile whom McElfresh allegedly victimized. Santana filed a motion to stop those records from being released.

Buckley ruled the records will be included as evidence, as the juvenile has signed a release of the information, but any private information about McElfresh will be redacted.
McElfresh was arrested by the Yuba City Police Department on Dec. 16 while he was at work at the Sutter County Jail.


This just gets stranger and stranger....
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he's going to do some time shit you not after all this he gets maybe time served. maybe 2 years if that
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he's going to do some time shit you not after all this he gets maybe time served. maybe 2 years if that
I wonder if you are right. We all hear about murder cases where someone gets four or five years.

But keep in mind this seems to be more charges pending.
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Sounds like things are getting very tangled. What is going on in the water up there?
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But keep in mind this seems to be more charges pending.
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You mean maybe everyone here shouldn't have convicted him already?
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I think donny will be convicted but sheriff maclefresh might get off... finally.
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Isn't that what got him into this mess?
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You mean maybe everyone here shouldn't have convicted him already?
Yeah, all facts thus far clearly suggest Donny is 100% free from any wrong doing. Your argument refuting the facts is definitely a solid one.

Maybe you should stop inviting sociopathic child molesters to your house and calling them "friend"?
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OHHHH mmmerrrrii gaawd

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What sucks is he is now serving time and a half? So if he gets 10 years he has already whittled away like a year of it. Will then serve just 5-6 because no doubt he will teach high school or something when in there to get even more time knocked off.

If he is found guilty hopefully he gets the max.
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But keep in mind this seems to be more charges pending.
dude ive seen it happen. even on murder 5 years with parole. they sent drug dealers away and chomos free. iam a witness did you know that absconders(sex offenders) that get caught face no new charges??
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I sent Donny an updated portion over 2 weeks ago, he's way behind the timeframe of getting back to me like the original response. There probably won't be a 2nd reply. From what it sounds like he read and wrote about posts 1-195 before he head the rest, and turned in his response. He simply couldn't help himself.

Seems like there is a bit of a pending process between sender and receiver.

I teased Donny with the fact of sending him books of his choice if he sent juicy updates or ruminations, kinda sick and cruel.
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You mean maybe everyone here shouldn't have convicted him already?
I am operating under the assumption Donny is guilty as sin. I think a lot of people here are.

Sorry, if someone came to you and says "I want you have sex with my underage daughter" you immediately call the police. There is no second guessing or moral dilemma here. Even more so with Donny who claimed to be religious - how could you not call the police?

Combined with the prior accusations and the amount of victims adding up, I'm sorry, I just honestly believe he is guilty as sin.
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I teased Donny with the fact of sending him books of his choice if he sent juicy updates or ruminations, kinda sick and cruel.
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