Paysite Owners: How Was 2014 For You?

Haha. None. Was a good deal though. 199 for the whole language courses 1-5 and it was all the best ones. Huge discounts.

Maybe I will buy the French online version at some point. Ehhhhhh.

For my own site: I send a weekly email that consistently gets 20% "open" rates. It gets 4-8% "click" rates. Obviously that's not a huge money maker, but it keeps my brand front-of-mind for expired members and members-to-be, so I find the 30 minutes it takes to write it as time well spent. I don't think the value of email can be quantified only with sales numbers. Just my

Working harder. Working smarter. 2014 was very good. 2015 will be great.

Something went terribly wrong there. Were they not opened, went to spam, or perhaps your offer wasn't good? I would be interested in seeing the mailing stats on that and your offer.

Yep.

You are the whole brand, the whole product. Very highly targeted.

For what most of us are referencing is general porn surfers, qualified to porn.

If I had an 1 million fresh email list of people that are just seeking Tranny BDSM with big tits, then well you're still going to be able to make great money.

We're talking about lists that are more or less people who join normal general pay sites.

You are the exact person that email marketing does benefit.

Your experience does not translate to every application, that I can assure.

I'd be more than happy to share this info with you.

Maybe send me an email (or PM me here?): porn nerd cash AT gmail.

ANY help is appreciated.

Man, that is horrible.

I collect emails first before I present any packages. Collecting about 150 or so new each day. I send an automated email every 2 weeks, from my server (shows latest updates).

Cost to do so = $0. And works very well.

I tried some pay services and nothing but problems. If my IP get's blacklisted, I just will get a new one

Excellent point. I didn't know you were talking about more general lists. Rather, I didn't want someone with less experience reading the thread and thinking email was a complete waste of time. I was just adding some balance.

Also, this thread is about paysites. Is that what you were sending emails on or was it AFF? Because if it's Adult Friend Finder then that's a completely different thing.

Emails are not a total waste of time I am learning, rather just another (important?) tool in your marketing toolbox. Of course, I do not even know how to use a hammer so I am fucked.

Hey Porn Nerd... work with Rochard on improvement. Chances are possible your message needs to be fixed and freshened up.

We have a similar list to you, 35k from ex members the past few years. I don't use Ynot, I use phplist on my server so the setup is different but the situation is the same and I was in the same boat.

I have had a few shocking mailouts where we have had 1 sale per 10,000, but i've also had them as good as 1 sale for 250. When I first started, straight up 'click for a discount' emails did the trick, over time they just stopped working and cost us to send. So we went back to the drawing board and after a few hours of brainstorming me and my team had a list of ideas, some worked better than others, for example, our most successful mailout this year was a benefits and how to get the most out of the site guide email - listing all the download / stream options formats, how vids can be played on smart tvs, what interaction etc.

Other ideas included snippets of good reviews with links to the full review site so they can see it is honest. We also did a 'way back when' campaign and showed the progression of the material and quality across the years. We still do discounts, last week was black friday and was very successful but discounts are now much rarer.

It's not easy thinking of new ideas over and over, in fact its bloody hard but with a good idea we do find the rewards are still there.

In response to the original post, 2014 has been ok, we have far less affiliate sales now than we ever had (40% of total sales down to around 15% now over the past 2 years), so total sales revenue is down around $100k, but direct 100% sales are way up so net total is almost on par with last year, hopefully more direct sales next year will give our net profit a boost.

Yes, I was referring to my own site, which is a solo amateur paysite.

It works. Every year the same. Could be better.

Some great points here thank you!!


This situation I see a lot as well - less affiliate sales, more direct sales. That's a sad situation when it comes to affiliates but, at the end of the day, if the profits are steady and revenue steady then this bodes well for your company's future. NOT for the future of affiliates tho.

Ah ok! Well, as stated, individual paysites with unique amateur models is still a good way to go with emails etc.

What are you using to do this?

I use Phplist and SMTP.com. A bit of a hassle, but I found email much more effective some time back, so I'm unconvinced it is still worth the hassle.