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  • Klen
    • Aug 2006
    • 32235

    #16
    Originally posted by Jel
    I believe he is asking what your spots are worth, and offering to buy them direct instead of you selling to an ad network/him buying via them. Cutting out the middle man
    Yes figured that out lol

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    • disinfected
      So Fucking Banned
      • Sep 2014
      • 332

      #17
      Originally posted by Jel
      I believe he is asking what your spots are worth, and offering to buy them direct instead of you selling to an ad network/him buying via them. Cutting out the middle man
      Correct

      I like to make deals one on one and also what in the world is the going rate +/-?

      Just the spot so mobile and desktop is in the mix. $3 per 1000? For the love of god someone please start posting some numbers.

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      • Klen
        • Aug 2006
        • 32235

        #18
        Originally posted by disinfected
        Correct

        I like to make deals one on one and also what in the world is the going rate +/-?

        Just the spot so mobile and desktop is in the mix. $3 per 1000? For the love of god someone please start posting some numbers.
        I was selling traffic directly many times but it was never paid per k,it was always either per week or per month so cant help you with that I am quite sure most of other folks wouldn't not want to sell per k either,regardless do they have small or big amount of traffic.

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        • thommy
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2003
          • 5469

          #19
          Originally posted by disinfected
          Correct

          I like to make deals one on one and also what in the world is the going rate +/-?

          Just the spot so mobile and desktop is in the mix. $3 per 1000? For the love of god someone please start posting some numbers.
          a number would not help you, because the value of a single click can be 0,0001 $ or 1,00 $ - depend on the productivity.

          If I understand correct, you want to sell an adspot, fill it with a deffined bannerimage and sell the result per click (or per 1000 clicks).

          but I think you will never get the same result on that as with a prfessional partner who not only look at the price but also on the clickrate of an ad.

          what isays clickprice of even 0,10 $ if the clickrate is 0,01% ????

          it is the same result as a ´price of 0,01 and a clickrate of 0,1%.

          if you ever tried this spot for promoting an affiliate programm, just divide your affiliate income with the number of clicks you have sendet - than you have the REAL VALUE.

          greez

          thommy
          Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
          www.trafficfabrik.com

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          • disinfected
            So Fucking Banned
            • Sep 2014
            • 332

            #20
            Originally posted by KlenTelaris
            I was selling traffic directly many times but it was never paid per k,it was always either per week or per month so cant help you with that I am quite sure most of other folks wouldn't not want to sell per k either,regardless do they have small or big amount of traffic.
            Why though? I don't understand?

            I know what average Joe Shmoe tube converts on my site and would like average joe shmoe tube traffic and work out some deals.

            Really... this needs to go through a traffic broker? I ran a tube site with 8K traffic that couldn't make a fucking sale if it was going to be the last sale of the century. Now, tube to good to respond to this disinfected thread?

            GIVE ME THE NUMBERS BITCHES!

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            • disinfected
              So Fucking Banned
              • Sep 2014
              • 332

              #21
              Originally posted by thommy
              a number would not help you, because the value of a single click can be 0,0001 $ or 1,00 $ - depend on the productivity.

              If I understand correct, you want to sell an adspot, fill it with a deffined bannerimage and sell the result per click (or per 1000 clicks).

              but I think you will never get the same result on that as with a prfessional partner who not only look at the price but also on the clickrate of an ad.

              what isays clickprice of even 0,10 $ if the clickrate is 0,01% ????

              it is the same result as a ´price of 0,01 and a clickrate of 0,1%.

              if you ever tried this spot for promoting an affiliate programm, just divide your affiliate income with the number of clicks you have sendet - than you have the REAL VALUE.

              greez

              thommy
              Here is problem with ad broker traffic... the guys selling via brokers hone their game by buying a shit ton of absolutely garbage traffic. They know they have a good site ranking a key term that others may want, so what they do is dilute the shit out of that traffic with the absolute complete shit traffic they can find. They then try to sell the "entire" package of 10% good traffic and 90% shit traffic for the 10% price.

              Working direct with seller I can get a much better gauge on the traffic "worth" and also cut out you, the middleman. See what I'm saying?

              Let's not even start with the bullshit bots that run rampant in ad purchase campaigns...

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              • ITraffic
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2013
                • 2725

                #22
                just go to juicy ads do your research and pick individual sites to buy ads on. you can get some good deals if you do your homework.

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                • thommy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 5469

                  #23
                  Originally posted by disinfected
                  Here is problem with ad broker traffic... the guys selling via brokers hone their game by buying a shit ton of absolutely garbage traffic. They know they have a good site ranking a key term that others may want, so what they do is dilute the shit out of that traffic with the absolute complete shit traffic they can find. They then try to sell the "entire" package of 10% good traffic and 90% shit traffic for the 10% price.
                  might be true - that´s why i did it different ;-)

                  Working direct with seller I can get a much better gauge on the traffic "worth" and also cut out you, the middleman. See what I'm saying?
                  ok then let´s do a short quote on the revenue you lost already to find this one advertiser and the next after that one is gone;-)

                  believe me or not - if you try to do all on your own, you will get lost. you can maybe cut the butcher out bút not the farmer. you can possibly even build your own car if you are able to buy all that middlemen what are nessecary to build a car.

                  and last not least: why don´t you cut out the advertiser and do your own fitting product, if your traffic is that much better?

                  imagin how much time you could spend in generating traffic and even build new sites, if you would not try to do something what you are not familiar with ????
                  if you would be familiar you would not ask here for informations, right?

                  and there´s another thing what you should calculate:
                  media buying is an outlay for every advertiser. means: it is producing costs. not only for the advertisement - also for the setup and controlling.

                  these costs are the same if an advertiser buys, setup and controls a campain with a few 100.000 clicks or with a few hundred million. at the end an advertiser runs his campains much cheaper when he use the middleman you want to cut out. and this is why thousands of them are happy to have this middlemen and not have to deal with every single website.

                  Let's not even start with the bullshit bots that run rampant in ad purchase campaigns...
                  at the end it is only success what an advertiser pays and what a publisher can expect to get payed. systems with crap traffic will not survive - this is the basic nature of economic.
                  so better don´t compare yourself with the ones what are doing it worse then you can - compare it with those who can do it the way, the market wants. and there are many of them around what are doing fine since years.

                  greez

                  thommy
                  Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
                  www.trafficfabrik.com

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                  • DVTimes
                    xxx
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 31658

                    #24
                    neat question
                    XXX

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                    • disinfected
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 332

                      #25
                      Originally posted by thommy
                      might be true - that´s why i did it different ;-)



                      ok then let´s do a short quote on the revenue you lost already to find this one advertiser and the next after that one is gone;-)

                      believe me or not - if you try to do all on your own, you will get lost. you can maybe cut the butcher out bút not the farmer. you can possibly even build your own car if you are able to buy all that middlemen what are nessecary to build a car.

                      and last not least: why don´t you cut out the advertiser and do your own fitting product, if your traffic is that much better?

                      imagin how much time you could spend in generating traffic and even build new sites, if you would not try to do something what you are not familiar with ????
                      if you would be familiar you would not ask here for informations, right?

                      and there´s another thing what you should calculate:
                      media buying is an outlay for every advertiser. means: it is producing costs. not only for the advertisement - also for the setup and controlling.

                      these costs are the same if an advertiser buys, setup and controls a campain with a few 100.000 clicks or with a few hundred million. at the end an advertiser runs his campains much cheaper when he use the middleman you want to cut out. and this is why thousands of them are happy to have this middlemen and not have to deal with every single website.



                      at the end it is only success what an advertiser pays and what a publisher can expect to get payed. systems with crap traffic will not survive - this is the basic nature of economic.
                      so better don´t compare yourself with the ones what are doing it worse then you can - compare it with those who can do it the way, the market wants. and there are many of them around what are doing fine since years.

                      greez

                      thommy
                      Hi, your arguments are sound... can't deny that.

                      I'm just asking for some tube love straight from tube owners... I don't need you man.

                      I do have tube love which will roll out soon enough... just want to ask some tube owners direct first. You have nothing I need... sorry man. Just give someone less knowing the pitch, I'm not saying you are bad at what you do. All I am saying is I want nothing to do with ad brokers in my quest to buy traffic.

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                      • pornguy
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 62912

                        #26
                        CPM.. M=Mil Latin for 1000

                        No idea why they used that
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                        • pornguy
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 62912

                          #27
                          Originally posted by disinfected
                          Correct

                          I like to make deals one on one and also what in the world is the going rate +/-?

                          Just the spot so mobile and desktop is in the mix. $3 per 1000? For the love of god someone please start posting some numbers.
                          Hit me up on Skype and lets chat.

                          Might be able to run a test for a while and you get some traffic for next to nothing.

                          Skype pornguy_epic email sales at amateurdough dot com
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