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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184
    #51
    Originally posted by blackmonsters
    Yeah, everybody goes to law school so they be a dumb fuck when asked about the law.
    Yep, that's why they pass the bar exam because they don't know shit.
    No cop ever killed anybody before so why would a lawyer ever look this shit up right?

    When people this smart make mistakes this big it's because they think we are all fucking dumb.
    you actually think attorneys are smart?

    you do realize the bell curve applies to law grads and the fucking bar right? well, I will explain to you what that means- that means ~50% of everyone who grads law school and passes the bar are on the wrongside of that curve. That means the barely did not flunk.

    You think some ferguson Missouri assistant DA is smart because she passed law school and the bar?

    dude, schister lawyers see you from a mile away huh.

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      • blackmonsters
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        • Nov 2002
        • 20964
        #52
        Originally posted by Axeman
        Except as Dyna Mo pointed out above you:

        "In fact, she corrected her blunder later:
        :::::::::::::::::::::::::::

        Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to effect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out, what we have discovered, and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the State of Missouri does not comply with the case law . . . and so the statute for the use of force to effect an arrest in the State of Missouri does not comply with Missouri Supreme, I'm sorry, United States Supreme Court cases. So the statute I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don't necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn't comply with the law. (Emphasis added)."
        And that's just perfect isn't it; because now every dumb fuck in the world believes it was a mistake.

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          • dyna mo
            just a fucking jerk
            • Dec 2008
            • 68184
            #53
            Originally posted by blackmonsters
            And that's just perfect isn't it; because now every dumb fuck in the world believes it was a mistake.

            you oughta be thanking your lucky fucking stars she blundered, this gives the DOJ even more fodder to open a case against wilson.

            FTR, IMO this should have never gone to the grand jury it should have gone directly to trial.

            Hopefully the DOJ will pick it up and make a case out of it.

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              • blackmonsters
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                • Nov 2002
                • 20964
                #54
                Originally posted by dyna mo
                you actually think attorneys are smart?

                you do realize the bell curve applies to law grads and the fucking bar right? well, I will explain to you what that means- that means ~50% of everyone who grads law school and passes the bar are on the wrongside of that curve. That means the barely did not flunk.

                You think some ferguson Missouri assistant DA is smart because she passed law school and the bar?

                dude, schister lawyers see you from a mile away huh.


                Oh, so you freely admit that the people involved in the grand jury process were incompetent?

                Well, we already know that.
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                  • blackmonsters
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                    • Nov 2002
                    • 20964
                    #55
                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                    you oughta be thanking your lucky fucking stars she blundered, this gives the DOJ even more fodder to open a case against wilson.

                    FTR, IMO this should have never gone to the grand jury it should have gone directly to trial.

                    Hopefully the DOJ will pick it up and make a case out of it.
                    I don't feel lucky that someone fucked up and someone else can fix it later, like maybe.

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                      • dyna mo
                        just a fucking jerk
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 68184
                        #56
                        Originally posted by blackmonsters
                        Oh, so you freely admit that the people involved in the grand jury process were incompetent?

                        Well, we already know that.
                        freely admit? wht the fuck are you going on about here? Just because I pointed out the ass DA is more likely incompetent than evil doesn't mean I think whitie cop is innocent in this case.

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                          • dyna mo
                            just a fucking jerk
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 68184
                            #57
                            Originally posted by blackmonsters
                            I don't feel lucky that someone fucked up and someone else can fix it later, like maybe.

                            welcome to earf man. you may live on a planet where shit gets done right the first time, maybe we can all beam there in the future but until then this is planet earth, shit takes a few times or so to get sorted.

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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184
                                #58
                                Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                Oh, so you freely admit that the people involved in the grand jury process were incompetent?

                                Well, we already know that.
                                Yes, I freely admit that. In fact, I have serious issues with how they completely waxed past his eye witness testimony. He opens more questions than answers them but they did not even attempt to dig further by asking the hard questions, questions that certainly would have been asked him if he were standing trial.

                                on top of that, this prosecutorial misleading (unintentional or not) of the GJ. Even her attempt to clear the record was a blunder. she's over her head or something I don't know, nevertheless, I trust the DOJ will take it from here and Wilson will stand trial.

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                                  • blackmonsters
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                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 20964
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                    Yes, I freely admit that. In fact, I have serious issues with how they completely waxed past his eye witness testimony. He opens more questions than answers them but they did not even attempt to dig further by asking the hard questions, questions that certainly would have been asked him if he were standing trial.

                                    on top of that, this prosecutorial misleading (unintentional or not) of the GJ. Even her attempt to clear the record was a blunder. she's over her head or something I don't know, nevertheless, I trust the DOJ will take it from here and Wilson will stand trial.
                                    DOJ actually doesn't have to do anything to get Wilson to trial.
                                    All that is needed is for a trial judge to agree to hear the case.

                                    The grand jury is just one way to see if a trial should occur, it's not needed at all by a judge to start a trial.

                                    His trial could start tomorrow if a judge wanted it to.
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                                      • dyna mo
                                        just a fucking jerk
                                        • Dec 2008
                                        • 68184
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                        DOJ actually doesn't have to do anything to get Wilson to trial.
                                        All that is needed is for a trial judge to agree to hear the case.

                                        The grand jury is just one way to see if a trial should occur, it's not needed at all by a judge to start a trial.

                                        His trial could start tomorrow if a judge wanted it to.
                                        hear what case? there is no case. that's what a grand jury is supposed to do, look at the evidence and decide if there is a case, they decided no case, i.e., there is no case for any trail judge to agree to hear. the DOJ can open a separate case though and that is what needs to happen here.

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                                          • baddog
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by Sunny Day
                                            Shocking mistake in Darren Wilson grand jury | MSNBC
                                            I want text, not some video; and I never got the impression this was about Brown running away from Wilson, but exactly the opposite.

                                            Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                            Yeah, everybody goes to law school so they be a dumb fuck when asked about the law.
                                            Yep, that's why they pass the bar exam because they don't know shit.
                                            No cop ever killed anybody before so why would a lawyer ever look this shit up right?
                                            I have to wonder if you personally know anyone that has gone to law school.

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                                              • dyna mo
                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                • Dec 2008
                                                • 68184
                                                #62
                                                a decent article on the DOJ pursuing its' own investigation of the ferguson police incident

                                                When a grand jury declined to indict Darren Wilson for killing Michael Brown, this did not mean that all of the legal questions had been resolved. While Wilson may not be charged with a crime under Missouri law, a federal prosecution remains possible.* “Though we have shared information with local prosecutors during the course of our investigation,” declared Attorney General Eric Holder in a statement released Tuesday, “the federal inquiry has been independent of the local one from the start, and remains so now.” And even if Darren Wilson is not charged with a state or federal criminal offense, the Department of Justice can act to make it less likely that police will shoot unarmed black men in the future.

                                                Superficially, it might seem as if there is a good basis for charging Wilson with violating federal law. There is precedent for the federal government to step in and prosecute police officers for violent acts when local authorities are unable to secure a conviction. Most famously, two of the policemen who were caught on camera beating Rodney King but acquitted by a local jury were convicted for violating the Civil Rights Act of 1870.

                                                Michael Brown and Rodney King: Department of Justice should file civil charges in Ferguson.

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                                                  • blackmonsters
                                                    Making PHP work
                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 20964
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                    hear what case? there is no case. that's what a grand jury is supposed to do, look at the evidence and decide if there is a case, they decided no case, i.e., there is no case for any trail judge to agree to hear. the DOJ can open a separate case though and that is what needs to happen here.
                                                    From what I read on this page, the grand jury might not indict but the trial can proceed anyway if a judge thinks the case is strong.

                                                    How Does a Grand Jury Work? - FindLaw

                                                    The Grand Jury's Decision and a Prosecutor's Discretion

                                                    Grand juries do not need a unanimous decision from all members to indict, but it does need a supermajority of 2/3 or 3/4 agreement for an indictment (depending on the jurisdiction). Even though a grand jury may not choose to indict, a prosecutor may still bring the defendant to trial if she thinks she has a strong enough case. However, the grand jury proceedings are often a valuable test run for prosecutors in making the decision to bring the case.

                                                    If the grand jury chooses to indict, the trial will most likely begin faster. Without a grand jury indictment, the prosecutor has to demonstrate to the trial judge that she has enough evidence to continue with the case. However, with a grand jury indictment, the prosecutor can skip that step and proceed directly to trial.

                                                    - See more at: How Does a Grand Jury Work? - FindLaw
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                                                      • baddog
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 107089
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                        His trial could start tomorrow if a judge wanted it to.
                                                        I am sorry, do you have a link that supports that theory? Just for the record, a judge is not a prosecutor.

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                                                          • dyna mo
                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                            • 68184
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                            From what I read on this page, the grand jury might not indict but the trial can proceed anyway if a judge thinks the case is strong.

                                                            How Does a Grand Jury Work? - FindLaw
                                                            Ok, I see. But what you mean is the prosecutor, not a judge, could continue the prosecution of a case regardless of a grand jury outcome.

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                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                • 68184
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                From what I read on this page, the grand jury might not indict but the trial can proceed anyway if a judge thinks the case is strong.

                                                                How Does a Grand Jury Work? - FindLaw
                                                                so yes, that's a good point, before, I had thought a GJ outocme quashed the case.

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                                                                  • blackmonsters
                                                                    Making PHP work
                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                    • 20964
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                    I have to wonder if you personally know anyone that has gone to law school.
                                                                    Wow, that's 180 degrees from your normal accusations of parole officers to report to.

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                                                                      • Horatio Caine
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                                                                        • Aug 2012
                                                                        • 5746
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                        Ok, I see. But what you mean is the prosecutor, not a judge, could continue the prosecution of a case regardless of a grand jury outcome.
                                                                        You are getting him confused

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                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                            • 68184
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by Horatio Caine
                                                                            You are getting him confused
                                                                            well, he is emotional right now.

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                                                                              • blackmonsters
                                                                                Making PHP work
                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                • 20964
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                I am sorry, do you have a link that supports that theory? Just for the record, a judge is not a prosecutor.
                                                                                Let me just quote this stupid shit just to get my post count up.
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                                                                                  • blackmonsters
                                                                                    Making PHP work
                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                    • 20964
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                    well, he is emotional right now.
                                                                                    Dude, I'm sipping bourbon and chilled out.

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                                                                                      • Rochard
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                                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                                        • 75733
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by dyna mo

                                                                                        You think some ferguson Missouri assistant DA is smart because she passed law school and the bar?
                                                                                        You are so full of hate.

                                                                                        One would like to think that the Missouri assistant DA would be... One of the top attorneys in the state. Although that might not say much being as it's Missouri.
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                                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                                            • 68184
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                            Dude, I'm sipping bourbon and chilled out.

                                                                                            now you're talking.

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                                                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                                                • 68184
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                You are so full of hate.

                                                                                                One would like to think that the Missouri assistant DA would be... One of the top attorneys in the state. Although that might not say much being as it's Missouri.
                                                                                                what the preteen girls of today refer to as hate, I refer to as reality.

                                                                                                ask baddog if I'm wrong.

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                                                                                                  • blackmonsters
                                                                                                    Making PHP work
                                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                                    • 20964
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                    Ok, I see. But what you mean is the prosecutor, not a judge, could continue the prosecution of a case regardless of a grand jury outcome.
                                                                                                    Yeah, I fucked up and just assumed that a prosecutor would want the case to continue and ask a judge.

                                                                                                    Now that was dumb of me in this case.


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                                                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                                                        • 68184
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                        Yeah, I fucked up and just assumed that a prosecutor would want the case to continue and ask a judge.

                                                                                                        Now that was dumb of me in this case.


                                                                                                        we're all here to annoy each other man happy holidays to you and your's.

                                                                                                        oh and gofuckyourself.

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                                                                                                          • Cherry7
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                                                                                                            • Aug 2005
                                                                                                            • 3564
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                            context, not snippets.

                                                                                                            ::::::::::::

                                                                                                            The message seems clear. Martin Luther King Jr. saw violence as a legitimate form of protest.

                                                                                                            That assertion, however, couldn?t be more wrong.

                                                                                                            King understood the cause of rioting in the mid ?60s, but he hardly approved of them.

                                                                                                            King made his comment to Mike Wallace of CBS News in 1966 as his leadership and strategy of non-violence was being theatened by more militant activists like Stokely Carmichael.

                                                                                                            ?If every Negro in America turns their back on non-violence, I?m going to stand up as the lone voice and say this is the wrong way,? he said in a speech, then reiterated the point in the interview with Wallace.

                                                                                                            ?I think for the Negro to turn to turn to violence would be both impractical and immoral,? he said.

                                                                                                            Wallace pressed King, noting that younger leaders had a different approach, and King acknowledged the new leaders were advocating violence, a strategy that had its followers.

                                                                                                            ?I don?t think these leaders will be able to make a real dent in the Negro community in terms of swaying 22 million Negroes to this particular point of view. And I contend this cry of ?Black Power? is at bottom a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice the reality for the Negro.

                                                                                                            ?I think we?ve got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard and what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear the economic plight of the Negro poor which has worsened over the last few years,? he said.

                                                                                                            ?Riots are self defeating and socially destructive,? he said.
                                                                                                            Quoted for truth in the statement

                                                                                                            riot is the language of the unheard

                                                                                                            The message seems clear. Martin Luther King Jr. saw violence as a legitimate form of protest.

                                                                                                            Only if you don't understand English.

                                                                                                            An explanation of something does not contain approval.

                                                                                                            The idea that violence does not work is laughable coming from the US government which has unleased more violence on the World and its own people than most others.

                                                                                                            Of course the Black Panthers were right. Violence will win liberation. What do you suggest when racists were bombing churches and policemen shoot unarmed people?

                                                                                                            Do you think people with power give it up without a struggle?
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                                                                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                • 68184
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Cherry7

                                                                                                                The idea that violence does not work is laughable coming from the US government which has unleased more violence on the World and its own people than most others.
                                                                                                                the idea that violence does not work is coming from MLK, not the US government. the mem you posted quotes MLK not the US government.

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                                                                                                                  • Horatio Caine
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                                                                                                                    • Aug 2012
                                                                                                                    • 5746
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                    Yeah, I fucked up and just assumed that a prosecutor would want the case to continue and ask a judge.

                                                                                                                    Now that was dumb of me in this case.


                                                                                                                    Don't let those whities discourage you. I find your posts very entertaining. Prosecutor, judge. Whats the difference?

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                                                                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                        • 68184
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Cherry7

                                                                                                                        Do you think people with power give it up without a struggle?
                                                                                                                        you think non-violence means without a struggle? it doesn't.

                                                                                                                        next, where did you NOT learn non-violence works better than violence?

                                                                                                                        from watching too many tele shows about the big bad USofA?

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                                                                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                            • 68184
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            "Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict"

                                                                                                                            The historical record indicates that nonviolent campaigns have been more successful than armed campaigns in achieving ultimate goals in political struggles, even when used against similar opponents and in the face of repression. Nonviolent campaigns are more likely to win legitimacy, attract widespread domestic and international support, neutralize the opponent’s security forces, and compel loyalty shifts among erstwhile opponent supporters than are armed campaigns, which enjoin the active support of a relatively small number of people, offer the opponent a justification for violent counterattacks, and are less likely to prompt loyalty shifts and defections. An original, aggregate data set of all known major nonviolent and violent resistance campaigns from 1900 to 2006 is used to test these claims. These dynamics are further explored in case studies of resistance campaigns in Southeast Asia that have featured periods of both violent and nonviolent resistance.

                                                                                                                            Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs

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                                                                                                                              • blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                Making PHP work
                                                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                • 20964
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Horatio Caine
                                                                                                                                Don't let those whities discourage you. I find your posts very entertaining. Prosecutor, judge. Whats the difference?
                                                                                                                                Are you actually this stupid?

                                                                                                                                OK, let me explain what I did to you here.

                                                                                                                                I accused the prosecutor of not wanting to prosecute the case by pretending that I fucked up by thinking a prosecutor would do that in this case.

                                                                                                                                Got it.

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                                                                                                                                  • Axeman
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                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                    Yeah, I fucked up and just assumed that a prosecutor would want the case to continue and ask a judge.

                                                                                                                                    Now that was dumb of me in this case.


                                                                                                                                    A prosecutor would never bring this case to trial, as its not winnable. Even Jeffery Tobin of CNN, had to agree after he went through what was presented to the grand jury. He said though he agreed its easy to get an indictment if wanted, its also his duty to not bring forth a case to a grand jury, that they know they can't win. And Tobin said there is no jury that would convict. And he was solidly in the Brown camp until he went through the evidence. Specifically the forensics, and the 6 or so witnesses that were never in the media, that he didn't know about, but pretty much backed up the forensics and Wilson's account of events.

                                                                                                                                    As for the DOJ bringing a case, that's just never going to happen. Their burden of proof for a civil rights violation is WAY higher than a regular trial. They have to prove that Brown was killed because he was black, and that Wilson sought him out for this reason. That is never going to happen in this case. There is just nothing in the evidence to suggest this was the case. Especially since the most vocal witnesses at the start, were proved to be wrong based on forensics, but many also recanted and changed their testimonies and facts came out, such as the autopsy.

                                                                                                                                    I could see the Brown family trying a civil case though. Don't think they win, but that is at least plausible.
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                                                                                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                        • 68184
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        A high burden of proof is not an obstacle to the DOJ pursuing a civil rights matter.

                                                                                                                                        In fact, if I recall, the DOJ has a history of prosecuting civil rights cases simply to get more facts out to the general public, not necc to win. not to mention an eric holder led DOJ and his chummy president friend who doesn't hesitate to weigh in on these race matters could easily chat to make a case happen here.

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                                                                                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                            • 68184
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Oh and don't forget the justice dept can also take over that PD and implement the changes needed.

                                                                                                                                            which is more to my point, I'm not necc interested in this case specifically, or punishing this cop specifically. I am more interested in getting changes implement to curb the systemic issue of police shootings, brutality, power, etc. that is plaguing the good ole USA today.

                                                                                                                                            the DOJ is charged with being responsible to correct those things and has intervened in several police departments, albuquerque for instance.

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                                                                                                                                              • SilentKnight
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                                                                                                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                                • 24818
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                I hear ya man. A white cop killed a black dude so lets charge every black person we can with a crime to fix that.

                                                                                                                                                If that's your full understanding of the situation - you're part of the problem.

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                                                                                                                                                  • kane
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                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                                    Why just arrest him, they should be arresting anyone they can identify. I'm all for people's right to assemble and protest, but they only assemble to loot and vandalize.
                                                                                                                                                    They likely will be arresting many looters. I doubt they will arrest Brown. Doing so would likely be more trouble than it is worth. I would imagine over the next few weeks as they go through various videos and identify looters they will be arresting them.

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                                                                                                                                                      • John_Galbani
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                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Wow, black people riot again in America?
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                                                                                                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                            • 68184
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by John_Galbani
                                                                                                                                                            Wow, black people riot again in America?
                                                                                                                                                            10 race/black riots since 1980, your point?

                                                                                                                                                            Mass racial violence in the United States since 1980

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                                                                                                                                                              • Horatio Caine
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                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2012
                                                                                                                                                                • 5746
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                                Are you actually this stupid?

                                                                                                                                                                OK, let me explain what I did to you here.

                                                                                                                                                                I accused the prosecutor of not wanting to prosecute the case by pretending that I fucked up by thinking a prosecutor would do that in this case.

                                                                                                                                                                Got it.

                                                                                                                                                                I pretended to fuck up Life long excuse of a failure

                                                                                                                                                                Got it

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Horatio Caine
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2012
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                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                    10 race/black riots since 1980, your point?

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                                                                                                                                                                    Just out of curiosity has there been any Indian, Asian or Latino riots since 1980's?

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                                                                                                                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2008
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                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Horatio Caine
                                                                                                                                                                        Just out of curiosity has there been any Indian, Asian or Latino riots since 1980's?
                                                                                                                                                                        You're curious, I'm sure you can find the data. In fact, there's prolly a ton out there exploring that very topic, why not gather some of it and contribute it here?

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                                                                                                                                                                          • blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                                            Making PHP work
                                                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 20964
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Axeman
                                                                                                                                                                            A prosecutor would never bring this case to trial, as its not winnable. Even Jeffery Tobin of CNN, had to agree after he went through what was presented to the grand jury. He said though he agreed its easy to get an indictment if wanted, its also his duty to not bring forth a case to a grand jury, that they know they can't win. And Tobin said there is no jury that would convict. And he was solidly in the Brown camp until he went through the evidence. Specifically the forensics, and the 6 or so witnesses that were never in the media, that he didn't know about, but pretty much backed up the forensics and Wilson's account of events.

                                                                                                                                                                            As for the DOJ bringing a case, that's just never going to happen. Their burden of proof for a civil rights violation is WAY higher than a regular trial. They have to prove that Brown was killed because he was black, and that Wilson sought him out for this reason. That is never going to happen in this case. There is just nothing in the evidence to suggest this was the case. Especially since the most vocal witnesses at the start, were proved to be wrong based on forensics, but many also recanted and changed their testimonies and facts came out, such as the autopsy.

                                                                                                                                                                            I could see the Brown family trying a civil case though. Don't think they win, but that is at least plausible.

                                                                                                                                                                            I can examine a bullet wound and tell you 18,000 stories of how it got there; but a good eye witness is only going to tell you one story over and over again.

                                                                                                                                                                            Certain wounds can be determined to have caused death and therefore would most likely be
                                                                                                                                                                            the last shots fired;
                                                                                                                                                                            but after that, it's just pulling shit out of one's ass to form a scenario of when and how each shot was fired.

                                                                                                                                                                            If I took a human like manikin and posed it several times to shoot it as if I was in a struggle with it and recorded it on video tape; then I'd like to give it to 10 coroners to
                                                                                                                                                                            tell me what happened to the manikin.
                                                                                                                                                                            Not a single one of their scenarios would match to the video tape.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • kane
                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                                                I can examine a bullet wound and tell you 18,000 stories of how it got there; but a good eye witness is only going to tell you one story over and over again.

                                                                                                                                                                                Certain wounds can be determined to have caused death and therefore would most likely be
                                                                                                                                                                                the last shots fired;
                                                                                                                                                                                but after that, it's just pulling shit out of one's ass to form a scenario of when and how each shot was fired.

                                                                                                                                                                                If I took a human like manikin and posed it several times to shoot it as if I was in a struggle with it and recorded it on video tape; then I'd like to give it to 10 coroners to
                                                                                                                                                                                tell me what happened to the manikin.
                                                                                                                                                                                Not a single one of their scenarios would match to the video tape.

                                                                                                                                                                                Just because the eye witness tells you the same story over and over against doesn't mean it is accurate. There have been a lot of studies that show eye witnesses, especially in violent crimes, get things wrong. They may believe they are correct, but in reality they aren't

                                                                                                                                                                                The innocence project says that in 72% of the cases where DNA overturned a conviction the reason the person was convicted was from an eyewitness misidentifying the person or the action.

                                                                                                                                                                                In a perfect world if you have multiple people all telling you the same thing there is a good chance that is how it went down.

                                                                                                                                                                                If it were me and my freedom was on the line and I had to choose between science and an eyewitness I would take the science.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • DBS.US
                                                                                                                                                                                    Geo Cities
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • JJ Gold
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 1969
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Axl Rose was arrested for inciting a riot in St. Louis and all he did was go home early.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                                                            Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 50977
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                                            Really strange.... I saw the father of Michael Brown shouting "Burn this bitch down" during a riot and hours later a dozen buildings were on fire causing millions of dollars of damage. Why haven't they arrested him for inciting a riot?

                                                                                                                                                                                            I mean... He was the center of the protest and he was yelling out to everyone at the protest to "burn the bitch down" and that's exactly what they did.
                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't know... I'd let him off the hook. The mom had just found out that the cop wouldn't be held responsible, and she started crying. Then he got up and held her for about 30 seconds or so, then he lost it of course. It's got to be insanely hard to lose a child, and to watch the person you love cry her eyes out after an already insane 6 months or so can easily push anyone over the edge.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by JJ Gold
                                                                                                                                                                                                Axl Rose was arrested for inciting a riot in St. Louis and all he did was go home early.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Good point

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Horatio Caine
                                                                                                                                                                                                    full-time aspiring rapper
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2012
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I can examine a bullet wound and tell you 18,000 stories of how it got there;
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Forensics. Do they teach it in "black" schools. Southern, Grambling, Morgan???

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Horatio Caine
                                                                                                                                                                                                        full-time aspiring rapper
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2012
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by JJ Gold
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Axl Rose was arrested for inciting a riot in St. Louis and all he did was go home early.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        White guy. Doesn't count.

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