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  • Rochard
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    • Dec 2001
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    #1

    Why haven't they arrested Michael Brown Senior?

    Really strange.... I saw the father of Michael Brown shouting "Burn this bitch down" during a riot and hours later a dozen buildings were on fire causing millions of dollars of damage. Why haven't they arrested him for inciting a riot?

    I mean... He was the center of the protest and he was yelling out to everyone at the protest to "burn the bitch down" and that's exactly what they did.
    Herschel Savage
    Brooklyn, NY
  • Captain Kawaii
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    • Oct 2007
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    #2
    with you on this one.

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    • blackmonsters
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      #3
      Maybe you should organize a protest march to get the grand jury to indict him.
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      • blackmonsters
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        #4
        Every talking head in American predicted a riot but now we know it was only one guy who started it.

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        • crockett
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          • May 2003
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          #5
          Why just arrest him, they should be arresting anyone they can identify. I'm all for people's right to assemble and protest, but they only assemble to loot and vandalize.
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          • Captain Kawaii
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            • Oct 2007
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            #6
            i think he flashed the right gang signs so its a pass...for now.

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            • Rochard
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              #7
              Originally posted by blackmonsters
              Every talking head in American predicted a riot but now we know it was only one guy who started it.

              I disagree. It could have been very peaceful. He encouraged very one to "burn the bitch down". And that's exactly what they did.

              Herschel Savage
              Brooklyn, NY

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              • dyna mo
                just a fucking jerk
                • Dec 2008
                • 68184

                #8
                Originally posted by blackmonsters
                Every talking head in American predicted a riot but now we know it was only one guy who started it.

                the inciting a riot law doesn't include a stipulation that a riot actually starts.

                According to 18 USCS § 2102 "to incite a riot", or "to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot", includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.?

                Incite a Riot Law & Legal Definition

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                • Rochard
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                  the inciting a riot law doesn't include a stipulation that a riot actually starts.

                  According to 18 USCS § 2102 "to incite a riot", or "to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot", includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.?

                  Incite a Riot Law & Legal Definition
                  But a riot did start....
                  Herschel Savage
                  Brooklyn, NY

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                  • Captain Kawaii
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                    • Oct 2007
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by blackmonsters
                    Every talking head in American predicted a riot but now we know it was only one guy who started it.

                    YOU ARE CORRECT. Sharpton and Jackson should be charged as well but they suck the right cock so probably a pass.

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                    • dyna mo
                      just a fucking jerk
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 68184

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rochard
                      But a riot did start....
                      no shit? I had no fucking idea.

                      nevertheless, a riot starting is not a requirement to charge someone with inciting a riot.

                      Not sure why you can't see that I am in agreement.

                      do you need me to say it directly?

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                      • blackmonsters
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                        • Nov 2002
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        the inciting a riot law doesn't include a stipulation that a riot actually starts.

                        According to 18 USCS § 2102 "to incite a riot", or "to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot", includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.?

                        Incite a Riot Law & Legal Definition
                        300 posters on this board could be arrested for that.

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                        • dyna mo
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                          • Dec 2008
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                          300 posters on this board could be arrested for that.

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                          • pornguy
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                            • Mar 2003
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                            #14
                            They wont arrest them because they are scared of the black community in general.
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                            • blackmonsters
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Captain Kawaii
                              YOU ARE CORRECT. Sharpton and Jackson should be charged as well but they suck the right cock so probably a pass.
                              I hear ya man. A white cop killed a black dude so lets charge every black person we can with a crime to fix that.

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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184

                                #16
                                the thing is, this dude had a choice, he could have been george clooney and told everyone to be cool.

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                                • VikingMan
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                                  • Jan 2008
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                                  #17
                                  Because everyone is racist and biased and the most racist people are the ones who claim they are not racist.

                                  white guy driving down the street less likely to get pulled over

                                  white person in store less likely to get watched by security guards

                                  white guy attacks a black guy and will probably get charged with a hate crime

                                  black guy yells racial slurs while attacking white person and it is highly unlikely he will get charged with a hate crime and the media will cover it up

                                  black guy incites a riot and media tries covering it up at first but even when the video gets out there are no charges

                                  white guy incites a riot and it will be headline news 24/7 and of course he will get charged with a crime.

                                  And lets not even get into the differences of how the media and law enforcement treat men and women who commit the same exact crimes.

                                  Humans are biased and always will be. Depending on the situation most people treat it much differently based on skin color and gender.

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                                  • DBS.US
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                                    • Aug 2003
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                                    #18
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                                    • Axeman
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                                      #19
                                      Because it wasn't Michael Brown Sr who said it.

                                      It was Mike Brown's step father. Not his father.
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                                      • CDSmith
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                                        • May 2001
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                                        #20
                                        Why is it a bad idea to throw gas on a fire?

                                        I agree the guy should have been arrested big time, but come on, think. Yes he was inciting a riot, but THAT would have incited an even bigger outrage.
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                                        • L-Pink
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                                          #21
                                          Actually issuing a false statement to a police officer by those that saw nothing or fabricated what the did see helped the pot simmer before the grand jury results were even read.

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                                          • candyflip
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                                            • Jul 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                            Really strange.... I saw the father of Michael Brown shouting "Burn this bitch down" during a riot and hours later a dozen buildings were on fire causing millions of dollars of damage. Why haven't they arrested him for inciting a riot?

                                            I mean... He was the center of the protest and he was yelling out to everyone at the protest to "burn the bitch down" and that's exactly what they did.
                                            I wouldn't expect you to know this, beacause well...you're semi-retarded, but that was his stepfather. Not his father.

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                                            • SuckOnThis
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                                              #23

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                                              • JA$ON
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                                                #24
                                                Because it would be a PR nightmare

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                                                • Rochard
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Axeman
                                                  Because it wasn't Michael Brown Sr who said it.

                                                  It was Mike Brown's step father. Not his father.
                                                  I didn't know that; I just assumed it was the father.

                                                  No matter. He should be arrested. He started a riot that resulted in millions of dollars in damages.
                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                  • Horatio Caine
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                    I hear ya man. A white cop killed a black dude so lets charge every black person we can with a crime to fix that.

                                                    Ah, here it is again - every, all, none.. Who elected you to speak for entire community?

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                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by candyflip
                                                      I wouldn't expect you to know this, beacause well...you're semi-retarded, but that was his stepfather. Not his father.
                                                      Facts don't matter to him from what I've seen.

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                                                      • Cherry7
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                                                        • brassmonkey
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                                                          #29
                                                          because it would be worse! did you know north korea sides with the father??
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                                                          • dyna mo
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                                                            • Dec 2008
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Cherry7
                                                            context, not snippets.

                                                            ::::::::::::

                                                            The message seems clear. Martin Luther King Jr. saw violence as a legitimate form of protest.

                                                            That assertion, however, couldn?t be more wrong.

                                                            King understood the cause of rioting in the mid ?60s, but he hardly approved of them.

                                                            King made his comment to Mike Wallace of CBS News in 1966 as his leadership and strategy of non-violence was being theatened by more militant activists like Stokely Carmichael.

                                                            ?If every Negro in America turns their back on non-violence, I?m going to stand up as the lone voice and say this is the wrong way,? he said in a speech, then reiterated the point in the interview with Wallace.

                                                            ?I think for the Negro to turn to turn to violence would be both impractical and immoral,? he said.

                                                            Wallace pressed King, noting that younger leaders had a different approach, and King acknowledged the new leaders were advocating violence, a strategy that had its followers.

                                                            ?I don?t think these leaders will be able to make a real dent in the Negro community in terms of swaying 22 million Negroes to this particular point of view. And I contend this cry of ?Black Power? is at bottom a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice the reality for the Negro.

                                                            ?I think we?ve got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard and what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear the economic plight of the Negro poor which has worsened over the last few years,? he said.

                                                            ?Riots are self defeating and socially destructive,? he said.

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                                                            • brassmonkey
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                              context, not snippets.

                                                              ::::::::::::

                                                              The message seems clear. Martin Luther King Jr. saw violence as a legitimate form of protest.

                                                              That assertion, however, couldn?t be more wrong.

                                                              King understood the cause of rioting in the mid ?60s, but he hardly approved of them.

                                                              King made his comment to Mike Wallace of CBS News in 1966 as his leadership and strategy of non-violence was being theatened by more militant activists like Stokely Carmichael.

                                                              ?If every Negro in America turns their back on non-violence, I?m going to stand up as the lone voice and say this is the wrong way,? he said in a speech, then reiterated the point in the interview with Wallace.

                                                              ?I think for the Negro to turn to turn to violence would be both impractical and immoral,? he said.

                                                              Wallace pressed King, noting that younger leaders had a different approach, and King acknowledged the new leaders were advocating violence, a strategy that had its followers.

                                                              ?I don?t think these leaders will be able to make a real dent in the Negro community in terms of swaying 22 million Negroes to this particular point of view. And I contend this cry of ?Black Power? is at bottom a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice the reality for the Negro.

                                                              ?I think we?ve got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard and what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear the economic plight of the Negro poor which has worsened over the last few years,? he said.

                                                              ?Riots are self defeating and socially destructive,? he said.
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                                                              • Axeman
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                I didn't know that; I just assumed it was the father.

                                                                No matter. He should be arrested. He started a riot that resulted in millions of dollars in damages.
                                                                Don't disagree. Also think those most blatant liars that went on the news right away and hyped up the shot in the back and hands up narrative, should also be charged with perjury when they lied to the FBI and Grand Jury. In the end they are what got this whole ball rolling back on August 9th. Of course, the media took that ball and ran with it as fast as possible, and for the most part, still are.
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                                                                • Captain Kawaii
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                                                                  • Oct 2007
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                  I hear ya man. A white cop killed a black dude so lets charge every black person we can with a crime to fix that.

                                                                  Naw, man. You missin the message. The message: STAY OFF THE RADAR. Work UNDER the radar. It works for the cartels en Mexico.

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                                                                  • dyna mo
                                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                                    • 68184

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                                                    man you are a fucking idiot there is no other option
                                                                    you think MLK is an idiot because he preached non-violent demonstrations, got it.

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                                                                    • seeandsee
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                                                                      #35
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                                                                      • Sunny Day
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Arrest The Real Liars

                                                                        Seems the prosecutors lied to the grand jury about Mo law and whether or not the Supreme Court decisions overrule state law.

                                                                        Shocking mistake in Darren Wilson grand jury | MSNBC

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                                                                        • brassmonkey
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                          you think MLK is an idiot because he preached non-violent demonstrations, got it.
                                                                          no you are!
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                                                                          • dyna mo
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                                                                            • Dec 2008
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                                                            no you are!
                                                                            you think I'm an idiot for taking the time to look up the MLK quote and read it in the context in which it was meant, got it.

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                                                                            • blackmonsters
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Sunny Day
                                                                              Seems the prosecutors lied to the grand jury about Mo law and whether or not the Supreme Court decisions overrule state law.

                                                                              Shocking mistake in Darren Wilson grand jury | MSNBC
                                                                              Unbelievable.

                                                                              Of course I only say unbelievable because that's the thing to say.
                                                                              I believe every bit of it.

                                                                              There was no mistake, that was done on purpose.
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                                                                              • Tom_PM
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                You can't be surprised that the prosecutors did everything they could to get the cop off. Police are not hired to serve and protect. They are hired to enforce existing laws, and more importantly, gather evidence for the prosecutors office in case they want to bring cases. Judges consider their reports and word as facts, so much so that if it doesn't exist in a signed police report, then it didn't happen. They are very very privileged under the law and will get every last benefit that there is to get.

                                                                                Shenanigans by the asst. prosecutor in giving false law information to the grand jury is super scum baggery and totally expected.
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                                                                                • jaYMan
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  widespread panic, obstruction, bet there is alot more he could be brought up on. I'd nsa his past 20 years... I mean i know he is in grieving but get people to "burn this bitch" down isn't very smart... don't they live in that "bitch" >>? like shitting where you eat
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                                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                    Really strange.... I saw the father of Michael Brown shouting "Burn this bitch down" during a riot and hours later a dozen buildings were on fire causing millions of dollars of damage. Why haven't they arrested him for inciting a riot?

                                                                                    I mean... He was the center of the protest and he was yelling out to everyone at the protest to "burn the bitch down" and that's exactly what they did.
                                                                                    No you did not; that was his step-father

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                                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                                                      Shenanigans by the asst. prosecutor in giving false law information to the grand jury is super scum baggery and totally expected.
                                                                                      What false info did he give the grand jury?

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                                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                                        • 68184

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                        Unbelievable.

                                                                                        Of course I only say unbelievable because that's the thing to say.
                                                                                        I believe every bit of it.

                                                                                        There was no mistake, that was done on purpose.
                                                                                        this is an assistant DA in bumfuck missouri, it was total incompetency. She researched the law, came across this statute and did not bother to research further.

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                                                                                        • dyna mo
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                                                                                          • Dec 2008
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          In fact, she corrected her blunder later:
                                                                                          :::::::::::::::::::::::::::

                                                                                          Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to effect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out, what we have discovered, and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the State of Missouri does not comply with the case law . . . and so the statute for the use of force to effect an arrest in the State of Missouri does not comply with Missouri Supreme, I'm sorry, United States Supreme Court cases. So the statute I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don't necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn't comply with the law. (Emphasis added).

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                                                                                          • Tom_PM
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                            What false info did he give the grand jury?
                                                                                            She handed them a law from before 1985 that allowed police to shoot people who were trying to get away from them. One example of this was a guy who spit on a cop then ran away. He was shot while running and died. There were no charges.

                                                                                            That law was overturned by the supreme court in 1985 and yet somehow, just by random error / rogue employee chance, she accidentally handed the old law to the grand jury who had it for weeks before the so-called "correction" was issued. Shenanigans. Lets not pretend she was incompetent and retains her job. We all know it was intentional to mislead the jury. We KNOW it was. "We" meaning every human on the planet with more than 1/4th of a brain.
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                                                                                            • Sunny Day
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Lies

                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                              What false info did he give the grand jury?
                                                                                              Shocking mistake in Darren Wilson grand jury | MSNBC

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                                                                                              • nico-t
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                                                                                man you are a fucking idiot there is no other option
                                                                                                so you condone those riots? What the fuck have they accomplished aside from making themselves look like uncivilized dumbasses and destroying their own community? Great success!

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                                                                                                • Axeman
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                                                                  She handed them a law from before 1985 that allowed police to shoot people who were trying to get away from them. One example of this was a guy who spit on a cop then ran away. He was shot while running and died. There were no charges.

                                                                                                  That law was overturned by the supreme court in 1985 and yet somehow, just by random error / rogue employee chance, she accidentally handed the old law to the grand jury who had it for weeks before the so-called "correction" was issued. Shenanigans. Lets not pretend she was incompetent and retains her job. We all know it was intentional to mislead the jury. We KNOW it was. "We" meaning every human on the planet with more than 1/4th of a brain.
                                                                                                  Except as Dyna Mo pointed out above you:

                                                                                                  "In fact, she corrected her blunder later:
                                                                                                  :::::::::::::::::::::::::::

                                                                                                  Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to effect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out, what we have discovered, and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the State of Missouri does not comply with the case law . . . and so the statute for the use of force to effect an arrest in the State of Missouri does not comply with Missouri Supreme, I'm sorry, United States Supreme Court cases. So the statute I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don't necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn't comply with the law. (Emphasis added)."
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                                                                                                  • blackmonsters
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                    this is an assistant DA in bumfuck missouri, it was total incompetency. She researched the law, came across this statute and did not bother to research further.
                                                                                                    Yeah, everybody goes to law school so they be a dumb fuck when asked about the law.
                                                                                                    Yep, that's why they pass the bar exam because they don't know shit.
                                                                                                    No cop ever killed anybody before so why would a lawyer ever look this shit up right?

                                                                                                    When people this smart make mistakes this big it's because they think we are all fucking dumb.
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