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  • EddyTheDog
    Just Doing My Own Thing
    • Jan 2011
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    #1

    Business MindGeek Files Infringement Suit Against XVideos.com Parent

    MindGeek Files Infringement Suit Against XVideos.com Parent - XBIZ.com

    LOS ANGELES -- Adult entertainment conglomerate MindGeek filed a lawsuit this week in Los Angeles federal court against the operators of XNXX.com and XVideos.com, claiming the tube sites streamed its content in excess of 100 million times without authorization.
    Oh the irony...
  • L-Pink
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    • Mar 2005
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    #2
    There really needs to be a special place in hell ...

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    • SBJ
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      • Apr 2003
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      #3
      Originally posted by L-Pink
      There really needs to be a special place in hell ...
      there is.. My family runs it till I get there

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      • brassmonkey
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        • Sep 2005
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        #4
        Originally posted by SBJ
        there is.. My family runs it till I get there
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        • vegasbobby
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          • Oct 2004
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          #5
          I was reading through the lawsuit. I found some interesting points. One is for each violation they're asking four hundred and $150,000. To they're actually saying that they own some of the content because they own those studios. So they're coming from the point of view as the content creator. So with that in mind. If mindgeek is successful with this lawsuit against the two tube sites. They might end up opening the door for all of the other companies to sue all the other tubes sites. This should be very interesting. Because what has not happened is enough lawsuits to really determine what the law is and give precedences where people can site. I dare say that this lawsuit might backfire. And create a way for people to stop tube sites.
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          • ReggieDurango
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            • Nov 2007
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            #6
            So unbelievable on so many levels

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            • arock10
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2006
              • 6217

              #7
              I'd guess trying to force the sale to them
              Sup

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              • EddyTheDog
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                • Jan 2011
                • 25435

                #8
                Originally posted by arock10
                I'd guess trying to force the sale to them
                The more I think about it the more I think you are correct...

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                • j3rkules
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                  • Jul 2013
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                  #9
                  Sign of the time...

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                  • Oracle Porn
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                    • Oct 2002
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                    #10
                    dont get your panties in a bunch, it never plays out and always settled


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                    • Phoenix
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                      #11
                      OMG
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                      • ITraffic
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                        • Jul 2013
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                        dont get your panties in a bunch, it never plays out and always settled
                        yes literally every time.

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                        • Barry-xlovecam
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                          #13
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                          • DVTimes
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                            • Jun 2003
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                            #14
                            Interesting stuff.
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                            • JuicyBunny
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                              • Jun 2010
                              • 2145

                              #15
                              Originally posted by arock10
                              I'd guess trying to force the sale to them
                              Or to mitigate the cost of lawsuits coming their way.
                              Adds up.

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                              • poncabare
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                                • Jul 2007
                                • 2552

                                #16
                                Wait... What?

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                                • Best-In-BC
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                                  • Jun 2002
                                  • 9509

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by vegasbobby
                                  I was reading through the lawsuit. I found some interesting points. One is for each violation they're asking four hundred and $150,000. To they're actually saying that they own some of the content because they own those studios. So they're coming from the point of view as the content creator. So with that in mind. If mindgeek is successful with this lawsuit against the two tube sites. They might end up opening the door for all of the other companies to sue all the other tubes sites. This should be very interesting. Because what has not happened is enough lawsuits to really determine what the law is and give precedences where people can site. I dare say that this lawsuit might backfire. And create a way for people to stop tube sites.
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                                  • EliteWebmaster
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                                    #18
                                    My money is on MindGeek "winning" this case however it plays out when it gets settled

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                                    • Adraco
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                                      • May 2009
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by arock10
                                      I'd guess trying to force the sale to them
                                      Yeah, if you can't buy them out - then bore them out. Tie them up inside a courtroom forever, make them spend a fortune defending themselves and sooner or later the current owner will grow tired of it all and fold.
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                                      • ITraffic
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                                        • Jul 2013
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Adraco
                                        Yeah, if you can't buy them out - then bore them out. Tie them up inside a courtroom forever, make them spend a fortune defending themselves and sooner or later the current owner will grow tired of it all and fold.
                                        all the big tubes have been sued countless times in similar lawsuits. which one has ever folded because of it?

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                                        • Adraco
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                                          • May 2009
                                          • 3745

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ITraffic
                                          all the big tubes have been sued countless times in similar lawsuits. which one has ever folded because of it?
                                          Wow! You must be slow. But since I have s lot of time tonight I will explain it further for you.

                                          Assuming MG still wants to buy xvideos and xnxx as Fabian Thylmann has mentioned several times before (I know he then left the company). The tactics then, since an outright purchase has been declined, would be to bully and bore your counterpart into folding their hand and give up their position. In the end game, agree to sell and thereby fold.
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                                          • CaptainHowdy
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                                            #22

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                                            • The Porn Nerd
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                                              #23
                                              I would expect an xvideos countersuit.
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                                              • Robbie
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                                                • Aug 2002
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                                                #24
                                                Fucking thieves fighting amongst themselves.
                                                Good.

                                                And after they've spent money fighting...I hope the govt.'s of the world FINALLY put an end to ALL the copyright infringements and shut them all down.
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                                                • JFK
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                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                                                  dont get your panties in a bunch, it never plays out and always settled
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                                                  • RyuLion
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                                                    #26
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                                                    • xXXtesy10
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                                                      #27
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                                                      • bns666
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                        I would expect an xvideos countersuit.
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                                                        • SomeCreep
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                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 26118

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                                                          Haha, what a bunch of fucking assholes. Mindgeek, who are the owners of pornhub and all of the biggest tubes on the net filing suit against xvideos. This is all politics. I have no doubt that at some point mindgeek made an offer to buy xvideos and was rejected. Fuck all these tube owner assholes. They killed the industry.

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                                                          • SomeCreep
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                                                            • Mar 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            Both companies have all the money in the world to pursue litigation. Mark my words, in the end, the only ones who will win will be the lawyers.

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                                                            • Magnetron
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                                                              • Jun 2013
                                                              • 1841

                                                              #31
                                                              -

                                                              Originally posted by Ass Kissing Manwin/Mindgeek Apologist
                                                              There's a big difference between Mindgeek suing a tube company and Met-Art suing Mindgeek!!!
                                                              Met-Art doesn't accept your user uploads?



                                                              Remember now when someone else sues, it's called a failed business model.
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                                                              • kane
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                                                                • Aug 2001
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                                                                #32
                                                                This reminds me of Cheech and Chong's Next Movie where Cheech says, "Somebody ripped off the thing I ripped off!"

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                                                                • fris
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 55826

                                                                  #33
                                                                  xvideos owner is a dbag when requestibg content be removed he acted like it was not his fault and really arrogant about it ge even had a notice on his dmca page years ago saying if your content is on the site a big fu to them check archive.org
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                                                                  • blackmonsters
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                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                    • 21079

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Reminds me of the time youtube flagged my video for copyright infringement.

                                                                    Good luck.



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                                                                    • Ross
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                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 18874

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by arock10
                                                                      I'd guess trying to force the sale to them
                                                                      Xvideos is the biggest porn site on the internet, XNXX is almost the size of Pornhub. I doubt that is the play here.

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                                                                      • arock10
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                                                                        • Jan 2006
                                                                        • 6217

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Ross
                                                                        Xvideos is the biggest porn site on the internet, XNXX is almost the size of Pornhub. I doubt that is the play here.
                                                                        I dunno, sounds like the kind of thing they like to buy... considering they've tried to buy it before

                                                                        No way mind geek sees this all the way through to a verdict, so they are trying to force some sort of goal/settlement
                                                                        Sup

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                                                                        • mikesouth
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                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 6340

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Im getting conflicting info on this but something for sure isnt passing the sniff test...heres my post on it from today

                                                                          from MikeSouth.Com

                                                                          No sooner had I announced that Hush Hush Entertainment was suing Manwin/MindGeek than I see AVN and XBiz runnind stories about MindGeek suing Xvideos. This raised a million red flags for me that apparently XBiz and AVN cant see, but lets look at it closely.

                                                                          First if you read the Mindgeek lawsuit it reads almost identical to the one filed by Hush Hush Entertainment. I am not at all saying its the same, far from it. What I am saying is that MindGeek is alleging that Xvideos is doing EXACTLY the same thing that HHE alleges that MindGeek is doing. The first thing that popped into my mind is how could Mindgeek hope to prevail on both fronts.

                                                                          Now here is the back story that you wont read on AVN or XBiz because they are completely in MindGeeks Pocket.

                                                                          You see back in the days when Fabian was fronting for Manwin one of the targets that Manwin wanted badly was Xvideos.com, one of the few tubesites that was arguably larger than pornhub. Xvideos also owns xnxx.com yet another large tube site. When manwin tried to purchase them they were basically told to go away, not gonna happen.

                                                                          Well that didnt stop Manwin, now Mindgeek from still coveting the sites and brands. A solid source inside MindGeek tells me that this lawsuit is a strongarm tactic to force xvideos to sell.

                                                                          Another source tells me that the sale is already a done deal and that the lawsuit is a diversionary tactic to get a legal precedent that would help to shield MindGeek from future lawsuits like the ones filed by MetArt and HHE.

                                                                          As I have pointed out these guys have found MindGeeks soft spot, that being a court ordered discovery in which Manwin is forced to open their financials to scrutiny, and even though MetArt claims otherwise Its pretty much a guarantee that MetArt was paid well to settle and I expect HHE has the same expectations, I will be surprised if Mindgeek doesn?t settle this one quietly but doing so is sending a message to everyone that MindGeek has stolen from and Mindgeeks worst nightmare is that they will line up around the corner with civil suits for copyright infringement. Watch this Xvideos lawsuit very carefully. I suspect it will tell us an awful lot about Mindgeek.

                                                                          And for the record, I applaud HHE loudly?I dont care if they do settle it? every single dime taken back from Manwin/MindGeek is a win for the people they stole from I hope MindGeek ends up feeling like they are being pecked to death by ducks.

                                                                          Thats my $0.02 on it.
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