Best of luck Jay!!!
I am now doing SEO...
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Thanks. I know a little bit. I'm no expert for sure.That's a pretty good idea of what I thought SEO agencies were about and what I thought SEO was these days - an uphill battle. I remember thinking to myself that it is almost impossible to get as many 'natural,' non spammy links as one needs to rank first without spending 25 hours per day in work and $5k in link buying.
You seem to know more than I do and I thought it was a well written post.
The big tell for most of the SEO companies out there is when you hear them say "SEO Expert".
There is no such thing. Expert is defined as "a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area". It's not possible for someone to be an expert. Experts don't guess at things. Experts have definitive knowledge.
It's not possible to have "authoritative" knowledge about Google. No SEOs work there, and no Google employees even know enough to share how anything works. That is the Google way. They clearly share nothing about how the engine works. All SEO knowledge is gained by trial and error, and whatever you believe from Google's red herring spokesmen and SEO industry talking heads.
"SEO Professional" are the guys you want to work with. "A person engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime."
I never really understood someone calling themselves an SEO expert.
Imagine if you were playing a game against someone. The person you're competing against doesn't tell you the rules of the game. You have to guess. The person you're competing against changes the rules anytime they want in their favor. You have to guess at the new rules. The person you're competing against applies the rules differently to different players on the field. The person kicks you out of the game for breaking the rules that you don't even know. That person is Google. That is SEO.


Anyway, Jay is an SEO professional, he knows his shit, and I don't need to jack a thread to bitch about smoke and mirrors from SEO companies.
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Step #1
Google "SEO"
Step #2
Hire someone on the front page
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this type of job reminds me of a media buyer looking for work
any seo or media buyer worth their weight would not be looking to take on clients ..right?To get listed on our site please email us at [email protected]Comment
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Well depend how good it is.If you are really really good,meaning you make shitload of money with it,then no.If you are some sort of "medium class" like you make enough for living but nothing spectacular,then taking clients might have sense to get bonus income.After all when it comes to seo companies most of their clients are people who have zero clue about seo.Comment
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Posts like yours still make GFY an interesting and invaluable resource in 2014.Thanks. I know a little bit. I'm no expert for sure.
The big tell for most of the SEO companies out there is when you hear them say "SEO Expert".
There is no such thing. Expert is defined as "a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area". It's not possible for someone to be an expert. Experts don't guess at things. Experts have definitive knowledge.
It's not possible to have "authoritative" knowledge about Google. No SEOs work there, and no Google employees even know enough to share how anything works. That is the Google way. They clearly share nothing about how the engine works. All SEO knowledge is gained by trial and error, and whatever you believe from Google's red herring spokesmen and SEO industry talking heads.
"SEO Professional" are the guys you want to work with. "A person engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime."
I never really understood someone calling themselves an SEO expert.
Imagine if you were playing a game against someone. The person you're competing against doesn't tell you the rules of the game. You have to guess. The person you're competing against changes the rules anytime they want in their favor. You have to guess at the new rules. The person you're competing against applies the rules differently to different players on the field. The person kicks you out of the game for breaking the rules that you don't even know. That person is Google. That is SEO.


Anyway, Jay is an SEO professional, he knows his shit, and I don't need to jack a thread to bitch about smoke and mirrors from SEO companies.
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Thanks Eric. There are a million ways to front page of Google than just ranking a site. Especially outside adultThanks. I know a little bit. I'm no expert for sure.
The big tell for most of the SEO companies out there is when you hear them say "SEO Expert".
There is no such thing. Expert is defined as "a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area". It's not possible for someone to be an expert. Experts don't guess at things. Experts have definitive knowledge.
It's not possible to have "authoritative" knowledge about Google. No SEOs work there, and no Google employees even know enough to share how anything works. That is the Google way. They clearly share nothing about how the engine works. All SEO knowledge is gained by trial and error, and whatever you believe from Google's red herring spokesmen and SEO industry talking heads.
"SEO Professional" are the guys you want to work with. "A person engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime."
I never really understood someone calling themselves an SEO expert.
Imagine if you were playing a game against someone. The person you're competing against doesn't tell you the rules of the game. You have to guess. The person you're competing against changes the rules anytime they want in their favor. You have to guess at the new rules. The person you're competing against applies the rules differently to different players on the field. The person kicks you out of the game for breaking the rules that you don't even know. That person is Google. That is SEO.


Anyway, Jay is an SEO professional, he knows his shit, and I don't need to jack a thread to bitch about smoke and mirrors from SEO companies.
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I know Jay personally and he's come thru for me in this area. Def knows what he's doing. Bump for a good dude that knows his shit.Comment
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