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  • PR_Glen
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2006
    • 9058

    #31
    Originally posted by TeenCat
    now, man, the question is, why are you looking for work, if you know seo well? if you know seo well, you can be rich in few weeks from now ... have luck anyway
    most pilots don't own airplanes...
    webmaster at pimproll dot com

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    • slapass
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Nov 2002
      • 14625

      #32
      Originally posted by PR_Glen
      most pilots don't own airplanes...
      Cost is the barrier to entry on airplanes.

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      • Sid70
        Downshifter
        • Dec 2002
        • 16413

        #33
        This is what LinkedIn is for, damn. Never seen anyone using it for testimonials!! Cool!
        Русня, идите нахуй!

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        • Cameltoepro
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2012
          • 1526

          #34
          Congrats..what is your email...
          Awesome Hosting At Awesome Pricing At Vacares

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          • bagfull
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jul 2014
            • 809

            #35
            loooks good

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            • O MARINA
              I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya
              • Mar 2003
              • 13796

              #36
              The O G King of SEO. Bow down bitches.

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              • Drake
                Hello world!
                • Mar 2003
                • 12508

                #37
                Interesting. Good luck on the venture!

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                • munki
                  Do Fun Shit.
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 13393

                  #38
                  Kill it dood! Stoked for you!

                  I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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                  • romeo22
                    你自己去他媽的
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 23350

                    #39
                    Best of luck buddy

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                    • Slappin Fish
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 2512

                      #40
                      Originally posted by nico-t
                      and this... anybody who really kicks ass in seo isn't working for clients. I had SEO on lock as well 5 years ago, since the penguins & pandas all went to shit.
                      I use to think that but I've since changed my mind. If you know SEO and can sell, taking clients is the smart thing to do.

                      And those who really "kiss ass" have been doing so for the past couple of years.

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                      • incredibleworkethic
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2302

                        #41
                        Best of luck

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                        • seeric
                          ..........
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 41917

                          #42
                          On Mainstream SEO agencies:

                          All mainstream SEO companies use automation. I've had at least ten of them try to pitch me for one thing or another. I don't tell them that I know SEO till the end. It's awesome to blow their mind with all the jargon and SEO space acronyms. Every one of them cops to using GSA/SER, etc. etc./ Blackhatting tactics when it's all said and done.

                          I've learned that the "ignorance of the client" is essential in them keeping the story going long term. They'll automate some tiers and set up some WP PBNs and show some ranking movements, maybe put the clients on the first page for some terms that aren't competitive.

                          The second thing that is important is to not take clients in super competitive verticals, and if you do, you better not promise them the moon; and have performance clauses in your contracts. Automation is only going to carry a term so far. Google will catch on eventually and the sites are cooked. Automation should only be done on domains you don't want to keep long term.

                          The bottom line is that building organic links that are NOT spam, and NOT designed to trick the algorithms is a challenge these days. It's time consuming, it's expensive, and it takes a hell of a lot more links to overcome the rest of the spam that is out there currently ranking. 301ing expired domains with IBLs from authority sites still works, but is another challenge in itself.

                          Trying to SEO white hat is a uphill battle that few will still even attempt. There are only so many hours in the day.

                          The thing that really puts the 'link spammers" cap on them is when they only want to charge you 800 bucks a month. There are at least 300 of these agencies that I could point out in the LA area alone.

                          It's gotten VERY challenging as of late. Spam still works though.

                          My stuff is still ranking in mainstream, and it's ALL automation. It's pure luck. Can't believe that Google hasn't caught it. They will though. When they do, I will start over.


                          Good luck Jay. Always do shit that you are passionate about. Everything else will just suck your soul dry.

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                          • TurboAngel
                            H.B.I.C.
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 30122

                            #43
                            Congrats!

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                            • Seth Manson
                              Please dont fuck animals
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 3988

                              #44
                              Originally posted by xxxjay
                              I heard Google is in the midst of a crackdown on those GSA type link profiles.

                              I'm still watching it shake out
                              SER is like a musical instrument. You can make it sound like a cat dying, or you can make it put out something beautiful.

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                              • mopek1
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 3189

                                #45
                                Originally posted by seeric
                                On Mainstream SEO agencies:

                                All mainstream SEO companies use automation. I've had at least ten of them try to pitch me for one thing or another. I don't tell them that I know SEO till the end. It's awesome to blow their mind with all the jargon and SEO space acronyms. Every one of them cops to using GSA/SER, etc. etc./ Blackhatting tactics when it's all said and done.

                                I've learned that the "ignorance of the client" is essential in them keeping the story going long term. They'll automate some tiers and set up some WP PBNs and show some ranking movements, maybe put the clients on the first page for some terms that aren't competitive.

                                The second thing that is important is to not take clients in super competitive verticals, and if you do, you better not promise them the moon; and have performance clauses in your contracts. Automation is only going to carry a term so far. Google will catch on eventually and the sites are cooked. Automation should only be done on domains you don't want to keep long term.

                                The bottom line is that building organic links that are NOT spam, and NOT designed to trick the algorithms is a challenge these days. It's time consuming, it's expensive, and it takes a hell of a lot more links to overcome the rest of the spam that is out there currently ranking. 301ing expired domains with IBLs from authority sites still works, but is another challenge in itself.

                                Trying to SEO white hat is a uphill battle that few will still even attempt. There are only so many hours in the day.

                                The thing that really puts the 'link spammers" cap on them is when they only want to charge you 800 bucks a month. There are at least 300 of these agencies that I could point out in the LA area alone.

                                It's gotten VERY challenging as of late. Spam still works though.

                                My stuff is still ranking in mainstream, and it's ALL automation. It's pure luck. Can't believe that Google hasn't caught it. They will though. When they do, I will start over.


                                Good luck Jay. Always do shit that you are passionate about. Everything else will just suck your soul dry.
                                That's a pretty good idea of what I thought SEO agencies were about and what I thought SEO was these days - an uphill battle. I remember thinking to myself that it is almost impossible to get as many 'natural,' non spammy links as one needs to rank first without spending 25 hours per day in work and $5k in link buying.

                                You seem to know more than I do and I thought it was a well written post.

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