NewOldPlayer

They are making a comeback.

They have a new stylish webmaster's site with lots of new toys and features.

Great sign that they are not giving up.

Once they overcome their delayed payout system, they'll be cool again.

chronik

lol......

adulttraffic

Tell that to everyone who lost tons of dough with ibill and epassporte. You work for them?

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Eschaton

My argument: They owed me about 6 figures 6 months ago. Now it's about a third of that. If they wanted to steal my money, they should/could have done it a while ago to get the most out of me.

If they actually catch up on the old payouts they owe me, and pay my new settlements on time, like CCBill/other billers do - I would have no problem adding them into the rotation to save money.

It also wouldn't hurt if they were more transparent and vocal about their operations. They really need someone (Hey Zombaio, hire me) to be more active in the webmaster community to answer questions and what not.

Am I holding my breath? Not really... We'll see.

adultchatpay

Nice to hear if they bounce back.

JFK

nice to see them grinding away at it. There's hope yet

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chronik

I thought this thread was a joke. If you go to zombiao.com without the www it shows a broken page

beerptrol

So switch them over to your primary so they can put more of your money in motion!

Axeman

LOL good luck with that.

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NaughtyVisions

Try spelling it right.

http://zombaio.com/

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Ahahahahahahaha??

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anexsia

As long as they have a cool website design, who cares if you get paid?

Markul

But does it say, how to convert cams?

mdwofficial

I've got some serious questions about the new layout I've forwarded to them about viewing payouts, and how smooth payouts will be in the future. They are not THAT behind for me- "only" about 11k, and they just paid out 9.

I am VERY displeased with how they have handled things recently, as the uncertainty about m processor has certainly cost my company a lot of money, since I am unwilling to add fresh content if theres a chance of not collecting.

However that being said as the 6 figure guy mentioned, it is a little strange they would be paying out to me at all if their endgame was to con me, especially since my sales have been at an all time low since these incidents.

RegUser

I have not received a cent despite being told 3 times already that money will be released next week for sure.
meanwhile I am going apeshit over new site layout

mdwofficial

This seems to mean NOTHING until they actually state that the money HAS left. At least that was the case for me. Tons of BS promises and then when they said it was sent out that day, it actually was.

Not really helpful to your situation, but just saying.

AmeliaG

Sooooo . . . Does the OP I have on ignore work for PayNet?

First he tells everyone to try to screw Zombaio.

Now they change ownership and he thinks Zombaio is great.

What is wrong with this picture?

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hellboy78

new Belize company, and I cannot see my balance anymore...

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paul_r

new design :D
quoestion is - where are old payouts?, where is payout list?
(good that make screen on friday, so at least i know what they own me)

JFK

interesting observation

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ShowMe69

The real question is Paynet a new company that was created by the Cawen Group or is it the same company/entity Paynet based in the U.S. Is a bit odd the host sites are still in Sweden and tech support address is [email protected].

No major announcement?

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a shell game (American)
a method of deceiving or cheating someone, by moving things from one place to another in order to hide what you are doing

Zyber

So it is still John Cavebring in Sweden who controls everything - nothing changed. Just wants the gullible to believe that there is some "new owner".

Look people, no matter what Zombaio claims, the money is still hiding in Cecilias gränd 2 in Halmstad (Sweden). Don't believe the bullshit about a new entity in Belize.

ShowMe69

Hey, I don't know whether they sold or not, but this sure does look strange to me
Along with their lack of transparency and late/missing funds

http://whois.domaintools.com/redpass.com

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Zyber

Wait a second.. Aren't you that guy who created the huge GFY thread criticising that Zombaio had stolen your money? The thread with long rants and lots of big red letters and swear words.

And now you are advertising and recommending people to use Zombaio?
Despite the fact that people are still being owed money.

Zyber

So the domain is still controlled by [email protected] - which is Cawen Financial Group AB.

According to this WHOIS data it looks more like Paynet Systems Inc is owned by Cawen Financial Group AB. Not the other way around.

So Zombaio is still owned by the Cavebring family in Sweden.

Zyber

It looks like John Cavebring used "Fidelity Corporate Services, Ltd." to buy a ready-made offshore shelf company in Belize.

http://www.offshorebvi.com/offshore....ons/belize.php

The funny thing, though, is that http://paynetsystems.com is not owned by this Belize company. Here is the real Paynet Systems:

http://paynetsystems.com/site/c98f25f0/about

http://whois.domaintools.com/paynetsystems.com

CONCLUSION:

John Cavebring is impersonating an existing established merchant services provider based in Alpharetta, GA, USA.

The Porn Nerd

Wake up people.
You have other processing choices.
Is saving that % really worth this bullshit?
PLEASE wake up and take your processing somewhere else, or suffer whatever fate you deserve.
I'm getting tired of saying this over and over.

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ShowMe69

Or there is another possibility, that the real Paynet did purchase Zombaio and started an Offshore company(shell) to run and shield it's existing business from any Zombaio liabilities....you never know. Either way this company is toast

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PAR

There is no GOOD reason for a processor to fall behind in payments.. EVER..

For a late payment to happen,
One of the following is holding the funds:
1- Visa withholding funds from the bank ...
*not going to happen unless the bank pissed of Visa and is at risk of losing the relationship*
2- Bank withholding funds from Zombaio
*not going to happen unless the bank pissed of Visa and is at risk of losing the relationship*
3- Zombaio withholding funds from their clients...
*only see this happening if Zombaio is in breach of trust and used the cash it does not own for other things...

What reason would Zombaio have to not pay its' clients?
Visa has settled to the bank,
The bank has settled with Zombaio
Zombaio has done what with the funds?

Simple question of why are funds late has yet to be answered?
Zombaio can't pay its' clients of it doesn't have the cash but if they were settled from the bank then what did Zombaio do with the funds??

There is also a question of legality of using funds from client A to pay client B and so on..

Sid70

Jezuz someone teach the people they're losing goodwill at the speed of light.

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Zyber

Interesting. The address in Sweden has been removed from the website.

Here is the real headquarters' address.
Just in case somebody forgot

jdubs1982

I just got around 3K of the 9k that they owe me today, and at the end of the day. That's all that matters to me, new websites, whois info, none of that matters over the next few months they'll either payout on time, or not. At the very least, I can say they've paid me in the past and continue to payout and at least on the surface making changes. I really don't care what the website looks like, and in a perfect world would never have ot think about zombaio, never have to talk to michael, or jesper or david or any of them. So I'll leave all the detective work to you guys, but I can say they just paid out a about a third of my "unsettled transactions" today if that keeps up along with on time settlements, i don't care if their office is on the moon.

ShowMe69

The reason that question hasn't been answered is because Zombaio would have to admit to either incompetence, mis-management of funds or theft and after that then what.....

Better to be vague and claim things will be better moving forward

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PAR

This is like using an accountant that tells you that you can't access your funds for 3 months because they bought some bitcoin with it and haven't made margin yet...

RegUser

And still no sugn of my payment. Months behind.

NaughtyNerdy

LOL. That shit makes no difference

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mdwofficial

Well.. They wrote to me and essentially said payouts should be under the reserve report. But there isn't crap there other than the measly reserve compared to the 11k they owe.

They also said they would be sending the old payouts "as soon as possible" and continuing completely on time with new ones.

Seems very fishy. At best it seems like they are hoping a lot of people didn't record what they are owed, and will only settle a small amount of the old debts of those who are active and have the numbers they are owed. Worse, perhaps they intend to not pay anyone the old funds and just continue as normal from now on.

Of course it is also possible they intend to never payout again and keep everything. The only reason that seems unlikely is they have paid out pretty good amounts recently to myself and others. Either way things are looking suspect.

Eschaton

I took hypercam screencasts of myself logging in and viewing my payout reports, current balance (that was to be created in the new report) as well as my reserve. If in the event I had to sue them, I would be prepared.

Not to mention, I took the liberty of downloading the customer transaction reports which contains all of their personal information, to further support myself -- and contact customers if need be.

It also helps that our transactions are processed through our own member management system, so I already know how many sales are processed through Zombaio without having to actually look on their website.

They owe me a ton of money: More than any of you guys have mentioned - and I've yet to see a penny of it. Our rebills each week are probably more than most other webmasters are making in a month - and that's after we took probably 80% of them to CCBill (don't ask how).

What I will say is this: If Zombaio DOES pay what they owe us, and they actually start settling ON TIME, I would have no problem splitting my billings to them again. As bad as that sounds, I would rather have 1 egg in a Zombaio basket than all my eggs in another.

disinfected

Maybe somebody else can make sense of this for me...

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShowMe69 View Post
Can't pay you if your money is being used to pay someone else....eventually they might get to you, this is how robbing Peter to pay Paul works, or as it is better know "Ponzi payment"
Oh I have no doubt that thats the situation. I got paid last week, I just got paid again, but they owed me around 3K.... they paid me, about 1K so far so its not like I'm even close to caught up. And the fact that they pay me 3 or 4 payouts at once, convinces me that its not a matter of "delay due to processing" its that they like you said are robbing 1 account to pay the other... next week, they'll rob me (and thats why I won't get any of my payments from May that are due) to pay random people they owe from last month.

I have NO faith in Zombaio, and eventually the ponzi scheme will totally collapse but I was just letting people know they are still kinda paying out so you never know maybe you'll get a payment or two soon.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20079589&postcount=169

I can say I was about... 16 payments behind around May or whenever they sent out the email about changing terms of service. I'm about 6 or 7 behind now. They still aren't reliable enough for me to ever use them as a primary biller again. But I'm still pretty confident that I'll get my money, just not on a reliable or consistent enough basis for run a business that relies on them. As for the chat, I talked to David by chat last week, and he said Jesper was out of town until the end of the month. My guess is that's the reason it was so hard to get anyone by chat and the answers to support was delayed.

You guys gotta do what you gotta do, I don't really have any strong feelings about Zombaio one way or the other but personally I'm till using them for rebills, and don't plan on canceling mine becuase they're still paying out.. its late, but I think everyone, at least for now, will still end up getting their money.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20176124&postcount=392

disinfected

^^ owed 3K and getting paid 1K way back (not using them just collecting rebills)... turned into owed 9K and collecting 3K today? How does that work exactly... growing rebills when you don't use them?

beenthereb4

I am glad I was not the only one trying to make sense of what he was saying . I thought maybe it was just me because he was asking me a bunch of questions when I said I had not been paid my reserves , Making it sound like I am the only person Zombaio has not paid their money .Their are certain people on this board that when they say they were paid I have no problem taking their word, then some others not so much .

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disinfected

he would of had to have 100% rebills not cancel, and not get paid since july to post those numbers. The likelyhood of that is about the chances of winning the lottery, he is a post bot for zombaio. His very first post was regarding a zombaio thread. I'm no sherlock but it does seem very suspicious.

jdubs1982

Because its not a matter of "growing rebills" Zombaio processes through re-bills probably around 4K a month, the last payment I got from them before today was about a month and a half ago. As of the.. i believe 28th was my last settlement date under the old system.. I was missing roughly about 9 payouts or around 9K.

As for the difference between average payouts, back in March and April Zombaio settled daily (or well whenever you had more than $100, or whatever you settled it on so there were times I was getting 3, 4, 5 payouts a week), this summer a payout = weekly or bi-weekly (I originally had it weekly, but switched to biweekly when I realized I was just paying extra processing fee for no reason since they weren't coming weekly anyway)

Back in July when you're asking about the exact numbers, I have no clue but apparently: "I can say I was about... 16 payments behind around May or whenever they sent out the email about changing terms of service. I'm about 6 or 7 behind now.", so between May and July, I went from 16 payments behind to 6 or 7 behind. And from July 30th - October 28th, I got paid sometimes, sometimes I didn't get paid, and by October 28th I was about 9, maybe 10 payouts behind, or about 9K behind. Today they sent me about 1/3rd of that. I said I don't use them as a primary processor because I don't trust them, but I've also said dozens of times, I don't want them to go out of business for the sole fact that they're still processing a solid chunk of money for me and since they have continued to payout, late, but still paid out, I have no plans on canceling rebills.

jdubs1982

Again you taking my word or not taking my word has zero impact on me. I gain nothing by lieing you're the one not getting your money, as I've told you before I'd either be going after my money pro-actively, or simply stopped caring about it... yet instead you've chosen to spend your time on message boards talking about a processor you don't use. While researching my old posts from 6 months ago, to try to convince yourself that your sad situation is reflective of the rest of us, and that everyone else is just part of some huge conspiracy to live large on your missing Zombaio money.

It's childish, but hey to each their own, you people put way more effort into trashing Zombaio (and now anyone who actually says anything positive about them) that any Zombaio "defenders" do in defending them.

I have no clue when you were last a merchant, but a payout in March and April for example was anytime I had more than $100 owed, a payout in.. October, was 2 weeks worth of processing. That's why, 15 or 16 missing payouts could have been.a month of processing, where as 9 missing payouts right now is about 2 months.... So stop making accusations based on your own ignorance.

mdwofficial

Christlord, more than even the guy who had been owed 6 figures? Sorry to hear regardless.

I agree about diversifying how you're getting your money. They aren't even THAT behind for me so if they can get current and keep up with on time payouts going forward as they have stated explicitly to me, then I wouldn't mind doing business with them.

But the whole "Oh are payouts will be good from here on out, and you'll get those old ones when you get em" message they are sending sounds awful, especially since they aren't elaborating on when that will be at all.

Zyber

I don't think that jdubs1982 is a "postbot for Zombaio". To me it sounds like he is being honest.

All he said was that Zombaio was 2k behind with his payments in July 2014, and now they are 6k in arrears. In other words, Zombaio's unsettled debt to him grows at a rate of approximately 1k a month.

Let's not be too harsh on him. He just wants to get paid - just like everyone else.

beenthereb4

The problem I have is he keeps trying to make it sound like I am alone in not receiving my reserves , when camdough stated that they were owed approx. $10,000 that was never paid to them . This is serious money this company has stolen and people coming to the forums need to know this .

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ShowMe69

Keep posting so Zombaio doesn't get a free pass and people know about their shady ass practices.

Very unlikely they were truly sold, more like a shell game

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