Oregon School Shooting - 10 Dead

Taking his signature income

As the country continues its steady decline this sort of thing is becoming more common and will only increase as a frustrated generation continues to come to the realization that they will indeed NOT be better off than the previous generation and this realization will drive many of the mentally unstable ones to extreme acting out behaviour such as this tragic event.

what a nightmare. i wonder what bullshit excuse this guy has.

Terrible.

This is fucking insane.

I don't think that is the cause of this at all.

The excuse is he doesn't need one.

that's a dvtimes post candyflop

Only thing different between this nut and the other 20 or some he actually got a good amount of kills , makes me wonder if he is dead now probably.

Did not receive enough participation trophies in Junior soccer.

Waiting to see what kind of psych meds he was on.

Thank God Oregon recently passed the anti-gun bill SB941 to stop criminals from getting guns. I'm scratching my head wondering how it's possible for another shooting to happen in Oregon after that law went into effect August 9th. Boggles the mind....

Also, very cool that the college doesn't even allow water guns on their campus. Those dangerous toys will fuck a nigga up!

I wonder why those 2 things didn't stop this shooter? Maybe they aren't aware that it's illegal to shoot people?

I also find it interesting that on the college website, they list "Dangerous Devices" that are prohibited, some of which could be used to defend one's self or end this sort of attack. So right after the college tells you how you can't protect yourself, the very next section is titled "Don't Be a Victim."

Their site is down so....
https://web.archive.org/web/20150316...ty-information

Maybe they didn't pass it soon enough - It will be interesting to see when and how he got the weapon/s...

What boggles my mind is why this shit happens all the fucking time in the USA. First world country with third world crime.

that's why i asked what his bullshit excuse was.

It's an illegal law. Fuck them and fuck you and anybody else who is trying to chip away at the Constitution of this country.

that and phyc meds plus the media pushing the glory of being a shooter

As a society we really need to stop throwing pills at patients with mental issues and assume the problem is taken care of. IF this person was being treated for a mental disorder, and was on medication...then maybe the prescribing doctor's practice should be investigated.

One thing all these shooters have in common is they're fucking cowards. Every mass shooting that has occurred in the past 20 years could have been prevented, or minimized, if we had armed citizens and open carry. No shooting has been a spontaneous act, they were all planned.

An armed society is a polite society. Taking away a law abiding citizen's ability to defend themselves only empowers the criminal.

13 now...

You guys Definitely need more guns!

Spot on...

It's that sort of explosive reaction to someone that doesn't agree with you on this one issue that makes me think YOU, and people like you, should not be carrying a gun...

Wrong.

Students who have proper paperwork are allowed to carry guns on campus. Oregon is one of seven states where lawmakers have said people with concealed weapons permits must be allowed to bring concealed weapons onto campus.

Where is Roseburg, Oregon? What is Umpqua Community College? | OregonLive.com

Yet the rest of the civilized world has tougher gun laws and we don't see shit like this happening in Canada, UK, Australia etc on a regular basis like it does in America.

There is something fundamentally wrong when anyone can walk into a Walmart and buy a fucking gun.

Spot on!

Interesting that gun advocates all over social media are blaming "gun-free zone" status...when in reality Oregon colleges are not gun free zones.

Seems not enough security in the school

How many more security would it have taken to prevent this?

What's a good number?

Recreational marijuana became available for sale in Oregon today. Not a single person who bought or sold legal marijuana was involved in any of this. That's further proof that legal marijuana is great for tax revenue without any increase in crime ;)

if only we all had nukes and tanks this tragedy could have been avoided

It's worked like a charm for the past 200 years. It seems like things have gotten a lot worse since this has been on the forefront of the Liberal agenda. Let's take a quick look, shall we.

Obama became POTUS in 2008. Since he's been president, out of the top 10 deadliest mass shootings in the U.S., 6 have been since he's been President. So in all of the history of the United States since winning independence from England, 6 of the 10 deadliest mass shootings have been on his watch. Come the fuck on, smells fishy as fuck, don't it?

It worked fine for over 200 years, all of a sudden we get a Uber-Libtard POTUS and people start getting an itchy trigger finger? Can't see it, sorry. And ask Australia how the tighted gun laws have affected them. They might not have mass shootings, but their crime rate went through the fucking roof.

Yea, it worked 'fine' until Obama.


As far as your Australia BS.....

Q: Did gun control in Australia lead to more murders there last year?

A: This ?Gun History Lesson? is recycled bunk from a decade ago. Murders in Australia actually are down to record lows.

Gun Control in Australia

Evidently this guy was a Beta Bitch who couldn't get laid.

He posted a warning on 4Chan.


Oregon college shooting message appeared on 4Chan the night before attack | Daily Mail Online

He said the crime rate went through the roof. He didnt say the murder rate. Murder is a crime, but not all crimes are murder. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

Thank you. It's refreshing to see someone actually read what is presented rather than twisting it to fit the narrative.

I was going to reply with the same thing, but saw you already took care of the light work.

never mind. Already posted.

Well thats bullshit too.


Summary of eRumor:

Crime rates in Australia have shot up since a gun ban took effect there in the 1990s.

The Truth:

Claims that Australia?s gun ban caused crime rates to shoot up don?t check out.

Australia rolled out strict gun laws in 1996. Ever since, Australia?s crime rates have been used to argue points on both sides of the gun control debate. Some believe Australia?s crime rates have gone up, others believe they?ve gone down.

We took a look at a number of specific claims about crime in Australia, and found them to be mostly false. The statistics were released by the Australian Sporting Shooters Association, and they?ve been widely repeated.

First, let?s look at Australia?s gun laws.

Before 1996, the states and territories that make up Australia each set their own gun laws. After what became known as the ?Port Arthur Massacre? in which a gunman killed 35 people and injured 18 others with a semi-automatic rifle, state and federal governments teamed up on gun reform, according to the Library of Congress:

In 1996, following the Port Arthur massacre, the federal government and the states and territories agreed to a uniform approach to firearms regulation, including a ban on certain semiautomatic and self-loading rifles and shotguns, standard licensing and permit criteria, storage requirements and inspections, and greater restrictions on the sale of firearms and ammunition. Firearms license applicants would be required to take a safety course and show a ?genuine reason? for owning a firearm, which could not include self-defense. The reasons for refusing a license would include ?reliable evidence of a mental or physical condition which would render the applicant unsuitable for owning, possessing or using a firearm.? A waiting period of twenty-eight days would apply to the issuing of both firearms licenses and permits to acquire each weapon.

The National Firearms Agreement also implemented a gun buyback program that led to 700,000 weapons being voluntarily surrendered. These stats can be difficult to fact check because they say specific crime rates are up by a certain percentage ? but they don?t say over what period. We took a look at how the crime rates have changed since the gun laws took effect using the most recent data we could find.

Homicides Are Up 3.2%-Fiction!

The number of homicides in Australia has been trending downward since 2001. The Australian Institute of Criminology reports that the homicide rate decreased from 1.8 homicides per 100,000 people in 2002 to 1.1 homicides per 100,000 people in 2012 (the most recent year stats were available). One in 10 homicides in Australia during that time involved a gun.

Assaults Are Up 8.6%-Fiction! & Misleading!

The number of assaults in Australia has actually increased more than 8.6% since the 1990s. In 1996, there were 789 assaults, and by 2010 there were 972. Over that time, the number of assaults jumped about 19%, according to the Australian Institute of Criminology.

Armed Robberies Are Up 45%-Fiction!

The number of armed robberies in Australia began to increase in the 1990s and peaked in 2001. Forty armed robberies were recorded per 100,000 people that year. Since then, the number of armed robberies in the country has trended downward. There were 5,628 armed robberies in the country in 2013, a 9.6% decrease from the year before.

Gun Deaths have climbed 300% in Victoria-Unproven!

We weren?t able to find recent statistics on the number of gun deaths in Victoria.

However, we do know that the number of gun deaths decreased from 4.2 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 1979 to 1.5 per 100,000 people in 2000, the British Medical Journal reports.

The Victoria Police also reported that the number of overall homicides in the city decreased by 11.8% from 2013 to 2014.

Australia?s Gun Laws Have Led to Higher Crime Rates-Mostly Fiction!

All we are doing is arming the criminals.

"Australia?s crime rates have been used to argue points on both sides of the gun control debate" -- pulled from what you copied and pasted, this statement alone suggests there are facts that support both arguments.

Do you have a reading comprehension issue? Read the damn article S L O W E R, it shows how arguing the crime rate went up is like arguing the sky is purple.

There are literally millions of weapons in circulation right now in the U.S. A vast number of them aren't registered and already in criminal hands. If they change the gun laws tomorrow, will all the criminals that illegally own guns turn them in? I don't think so, and with the make-believe border we have with Mexico, that means guns can come and go as they please. And in some cases, if you're in a ruthless cartel, the POTUS and Attorney General will provide them to you.

In other words, criminals will always have guns. ALWAYS. This isn't the UK or Australia, we're not an island. If I was hellbent on breaking the law, and even if the U.S. passes the most Draconian laws in all the land, I'll still be able to get one. Easily. And that's the point most people against gun control are trying to argue. Yeah, Liberals and the media paint the picture that everyone that owns a gun or against gun control are right wing lunatic nut jobs with a basement full of assault rifles and ammo wearing camouflage pants. That's about the furthest from the truth, but since the media paints that picture for the sheep, they follow it without question.

Address other underlying issues rather than trying to rewrite the Constitution. Guns don't kill people, crazy people with guns kill people. Can't say that enough.

My problem with everyone walking around with a gun on their hip is that now all these idots who can't even seem to figure out the self-checkout at the grocery store are going to be armed and feeling entitled to fire as needed.

It's not about having everyone armed. It's about having the right people armed. Schools could easily protect themselves from this kind of thing by having a few trained, armed guards on call on campus (how many would be determined by the size of the school etc). They could also allow the teachers in the school to go through some training and have a gun locked in their desk or a safe in their class.

The last thing a school needs is a bunch of panicked kids firing at anything that moves.

Yea because no one ever shot anyone in the Wild West and Town sheriff's never had to forcibly remove the guns from people who came to no gun towns.. The whole no gun thing is just modern liberal idea...

So many factors at play, the elephant in the room is the Internet where sites like 4Chan flourish that provide a perverse sympathetic support and encouragement group for social outcasts that makes mass murder seem a rational and even a heroic option. You spend enough time on websites like 4Chan and even GFY at times, anti-social speech and behavior begins to seem 'normal'.

Guns are an issue but the root causes are far more complicated and nobody wants to deal with those so the easy thing is to just blame guns.

The US is a large country, if only 1/10th of 1 percent of its young population is affected by violent video games/movies, psych medications, vile social media/networking sites, etc it adds up to a pool of thousands of young male ticking time bombs.

I'm beginning to think that gun ownership should be restricted to people over 30, we don't let 13 year olds drive cars even though they are physically capable - almost all these mass murderers are teens and 20-somethings.

What a fucking loser!!

Me saying "fuck you" to a guy who is a citizen of the very country the Second Amendment was put in place to protect us from is an "explosive reaction" that concerns you? LOL, stop being a pussy.