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  • Buff
    GFY Assassin
    • May 2003
    • 2993
    #1

    Rant Why do so few people use proper spelling/grammar online?

    Is it because they never learned proper spelling and grammar? Is it because they just don't read books? (Real books, not fluff) Is it because they just don't care? Is grammar dying out? Is spelling irrelevant? Am I just an old fuddy-duddy who needs to get with the times?

    Does anyone else give a shit or am I alone here?
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    • bagfull
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jul 2014
      • 809
      #2
      i just dont give a fuck,
      me dont give a flying fuck hehehe
      i just want good pussy and weeed

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        • MrTrollkien
          So Fucking Banned
          • Mar 2014
          • 2360
          #3
          Do you have problems with writers?

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            • CDSmith
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • May 2001
              • 51460
              #4
              On forums I don't think it matters much to most people. If they can peck out their 'u's and '2's and 'r's and save a bunch of typing whilst still making themselves understood they're happy. But anyone professing to be a writer really ought to make the effort to keep their posts grammatically correct I think.

              Emails and business texts are another matter. Even if you're not claiming to be an actual writer, are you in business? It takes a few extra moments to clean up an email and make sure it's more professional than your average "hey man r u their wut up?" before sending it, but that's too much to ask for with a lot of people.

              So to answer your question yes, I give a shit.
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                • CaptainHowdy
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 94037
                  #5
                  Online most write like they talk ...

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                    • Mediamix
                      Dutch Webmaster!
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 3228
                      #6
                      English is not my native language. So it can happen that I make mistakes, but as long everyone can read what I write it's not really something I care about.
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                        • PR_Glen
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 9058
                          #7
                          Well there's bad formal grammar that really has no relevance here because we are not writing term papers while posting. Then there is people who's grammar is so bad it inhibits communication and that is inexcusable if you are using your native language. Example below...

                          Originally posted by bagfull
                          i just dont give a fuck,
                          me dont give a flying fuck hehehe
                          i just want good pussy and weeed
                          webmaster at pimproll dot com

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                            • DamianJ
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 15808
                              #8
                              Originally posted by PR_Glen
                              Then there is people who's grammar is so bad
                              *whose

                              insert irony meter pic here

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                                • dyna mo
                                  just a fucking jerk
                                  • Dec 2008
                                  • 68184
                                  #9
                                  name 1 good reason why grammer is important on gfy.

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                                    • Relentless
                                      www.EngineFood.com
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 5697
                                      #10
                                      Spelling/grammar change and evolve over time. Years ago if you wrote something that ended with ?! as punctuation you would be entirely incorrect. Now asking a question emphatically like: 'Who seriously cares how other people choose to write forum posts?!' is colloquially correct and perfectly understood by nearly anyone speaking English online.

                                      Usage dictates validity when it comes to language or any of the other subjective arts. If most people start writing &*%^d9! when they feel frustrated, Qbert-speak would quickly be found in any worthwhile Dictionary. When you write you are quietly voting for the way all people should write... and in the history of humanity you will find very few 3rd grade grammar teachers with perfect punctuation that have ever managed to write something worth reading.

                                      The world needs more Jackson Pollock creativity and less color-by-numbers rule followers.
                                      Last edited by Relentless; 10-15-2014, 08:27 AM.


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                                        • DamianJ
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2006
                                          • 15808
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Relentless
                                          Spelling/grammar change and evolve over time. Years ago if you wrote something that ended with ?! as punctuation you would be entirely incorrect. Now asking a question emphatically like: 'Who seriously cares how other people choose to write forum posts?!' is colloquially correct and perfectly understood by nearly anyone speaking English online.

                                          Usage dictates validity when it comes to language or any of the other subjective arts. If most people start writing &*%^d9! when they feel frustrated, Qbert-speak would quickly be found in any worthwhile Dictionary. When you write you are quietly voting for the way all people should write... and in the history of humanity you will find very few 3rd grade grammar teachers with perfect punctuation that have ever managed to write something worth reading.

                                          The world needs more Jackson Pollock creativity and less color-by-numbers rule followers.
                                          Don't think people using is instead of are or who's instead of whose are jackson pollock-esque, just stupid or uneducated.

                                          Creativity is great. ee cummings springs to mind as someone who broke rules for a reason. Breaking rules because you're just fucking stupid (you're/your) just makes you look like you either don't care or are stupid. More than likely the latter.

                                          On forums or in personal emails, I can let it slip, except in cases where people are moaning about grammar whilst making a mistake themselves. On 'proper' websites, in marketing copy, in marketing emails etc I think it is inexcusable.

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                                            • Relentless
                                              www.EngineFood.com
                                              • Aug 2006
                                              • 5697
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by DamianJ
                                              On forums or in personal emails, I can let it slip, except in cases where people are moaning about grammar whilst making a mistake themselves. On 'proper' websites, in marketing copy, in marketing emails etc I think it is inexcusable.
                                              That depends deeply on the site and the target audience. As an example, if you are building a site and want to jump-start the comments section... using proper grammar in every post is marketing suicide. If you are selling vaporizers you'd want a different voice (and often a less grammatically savvy one) than you would want selling pacemakers online. Matching your voice to your subject-matter and intended audience is what matters most.

                                              On things like forums and emails many people are speaking English as a 2nd or 3rd language. What they say matters more than their phrasing. If they want proper text they can always hire www.enginefood.com to take care of it, if they want to just get a quick message out to people on a board they are counting on those with better command of English to overlook small errors in syntax.

                                              One thing is for sure. If you want to market anything to GFY webmasters, it would make sense to do so with impeccable grammar, as in this community grammar often matters more than the actual subject of the post to many in the intended audience.


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                                                • PAR
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2005
                                                  • 1835
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                  *whose

                                                  insert irony meter pic here
                                                  Insert irony meter picture here.

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                                                    • edgeprod
                                                      Permanently Gone
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 10019
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                      *whose

                                                      insert irony meter pic here
                                                      *are people

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                                                        • Klen
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 32234
                                                          #15
                                                          It is impossible to do wrong spelling with Firefox as it is immediately shown if you write a word wrong.

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                                                            • Barry-xlovecam
                                                              It's 42
                                                              • Jun 2010
                                                              • 18083
                                                              #16
                                                              I make allowances for persons speaking in English as a second language making grammatical errors.

                                                              I make allowances for persons using Internet slang or shorthand like the u, 2, lol, imo, afik -- this is the common language of the Internet today. Also, some misspellings that would get past a spell check but notwithstanding simple grade school syntax errors.

                                                              That said, when people who should be schooled in English grammar make errors showing their 5th grade educations: I will say nothing however forming my opinion of their status in life accordingly.

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                                                                • CaptainHowdy
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 94037
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                  name 1 good reason why grammer is important on gfy.
                                                                  Making long, well punctuated, and overall well written posts makes you right.

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                                                                    • _Richard_
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                      • 30989
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Is it because they just don't read books? (Real books, not fluff) Is it
                                                                      Incorrect: I went to the mall yesterday. (even though I had no money)

                                                                      Correct: I went to the mall yesterday (even though I had no money).

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                                                                        • PR_Glen
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2006
                                                                          • 9058
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                          *whose

                                                                          insert irony meter pic here
                                                                          Pretty convenient how you clipped out the part where I explained how worthless it is to edit for formal forms of grammar on a message board isn't it dipshit?

                                                                          you are truly pathetic...
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                                                                            • DamianJ
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                              • 15808
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by PR_Glen

                                                                              you are truly pathetic...
                                                                              Maybe, but I can spell at a level above an eight year old. Who's. Lol.

                                                                              I honestly thought for a second that you were being purposely ironic with that and is instead of are. Then I rememberef it was you. And you obviously weren't.

                                                                              Did you finish grade school?
                                                                              Last edited by DamianJ; 10-15-2014, 12:58 PM.

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                                                                                • Va2k
                                                                                  I’m still alive barley.
                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                  • 10060
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  It matters to me, but I wasn't good in school after my accident. Now 41 years of age, I try to use correct grammar and spelling. It's very hard for me though, to be honest.

                                                                                  Tom

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                                                                                    • Sly
                                                                                      Let's do some business!
                                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                                      • 31378
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                                                                      Making long, well punctuated, and overall well written posts makes you right.
                                                                                      :-)

                                                                                      Not just on a message board, in general. Humans take articulate writing more seriously and give it more credit, even when the content is absolutely ridiculous.

                                                                                      Something to think about when writing. Play the game.
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                                                                                        • L-Pink
                                                                                          working on my tan
                                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                                          • 39151
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                          Don't think people using is instead of are or who's instead of whose are jackson pollock-esque, just stupid or uneducated.

                                                                                          Creativity is great. ee cummings springs to mind as someone who broke rules for a reason. Breaking rules because you're just fucking stupid (you're/your) just makes you look like you either don't care or are stupid. More than likely the latter.

                                                                                          On forums or in personal emails, I can let it slip, except in cases where people are moaning about grammar whilst making a mistake themselves. On 'proper' websites, in marketing copy, in marketing emails etc I think it is inexcusable.

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                                                                                            • dyna mo
                                                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                                              • 68184
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                                                                              Making long, well punctuated, and overall well written posts makes you right.
                                                                                              not sure if i can agree since your answer is clear and concise.

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                                                                                                • Rochard
                                                                                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 75733
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I think people from Europe who do not speak English as their first should have someone read their stuff.... I see silly grammar issues daily in porn.
                                                                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                      • 46234
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Buff
                                                                                                      Is it because they never learned proper spelling and grammar? Is it because they just don't read books? (Real books, not fluff) Is it because they just don't care? Is grammar dying out? Is spelling irrelevant? Am I just an old fuddy-duddy who needs to get with the times?

                                                                                                      Does anyone else give a shit or am I alone here?
                                                                                                      I did not learn proper selling and grammar.. I read all the time and l always have but I don't spellcheck as I read nor do I dissect sentence structure

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                                                                                                        • 420
                                                                                                          cuck
                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                          • 11571
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          i see smart ppl that know the dif between your and you're type your for both

                                                                                                          maybe their spell check changes it to your when they type youre (without ')


                                                                                                          edit:
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                          I did not learn proper selling and grammar..
                                                                                                          selling is spelled correctly though
                                                                                                          Last edited by 420; 10-15-2014, 06:15 PM.
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                                                                                                            • NaughtyRob
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                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                              • 29602
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Because the schools in the USA SUCK ass.
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                                                                                                                • ErectMedia
                                                                                                                  Confirmed Chicago Pimp
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                  • 7100
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Honestly I slept through English class. My spelling is usually good but grammar not so much. If I really concentrated I could do better but considering I just come here to fuck off between work don't really care. Non grammar mofo still clocking 6 figures, ya heard.

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